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September 14, 2008, 4:57 am PDT

09/19 School Controversies

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Hi everyone,

 

I've just read about the Amethyst Initiative and how college presidents would like there to be a discussion concerning the age limit on drinking alcohol. 

 

The legal age in the UK is 18 and this means that our college students are legal to drink when they go off to university.  Does this stop or reduce binge drinking? I don't believe so in fact, when I attended university (I went late at 21) there were so many students binge drinking there would often be altercations between the bar staff and the kids!

 

Here in the UK many people believed that bringing in the "24hr drinking" law would reduce binge drinking and it hasn't.  Many people (myself included) believe the legal age should be raised to 21 just like it is currently in the US.

 

A lot of my friends wasted their student loans on going out and partying and a few even had to drop out of college all together.  I believe the legal age to drink should be set at 21 as the majority of 18 year olds do not know the full extent of the damage that can be caused by binge drinking.

This is a response to the lady in the UK.  I Have to disagree ON THE AGE Limit on Drinking  ONLY , because I think the age  21 young people are responsible enough. Sure there may a lot that are but what about the ones that just don't know when to quit drinking? If I was the final judge in this matter the Law would be "NO DRINKING UNTIL AGE 26", this way kids can then grow more INTO ADULTS,  to be more responsible about drinking , don't end up in bars  and  behind  the  wheel drunk..That is where a lot of the young kids die from is drinking & driving or killing there friends or other innocent people.

I  don't know what kind of famiy background you come from but,  one thing I know is true if your poor you sure kind find the booze & drugs when you are very young I tried both at a young age. I didn't care too much for the drugs as I did for the booze. I am now Sober 8yrs  I am in my 50's  and loving my new life...

IF  anyone thinks for one second BOOZE OR DRUGS  can't take  OVER MY  life, you must be an idiot...

THANKS FOR READING

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September 19, 2008, 7:18 am PDT

09/19 School Controversies

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Hi everyone,

 

I've just read about the Amethyst Initiative and how college presidents would like there to be a discussion concerning the age limit on drinking alcohol. 

 

The legal age in the UK is 18 and this means that our college students are legal to drink when they go off to university.  Does this stop or reduce binge drinking? I don't believe so in fact, when I attended university (I went late at 21) there were so many students binge drinking there would often be altercations between the bar staff and the kids!

 

Here in the UK many people believed that bringing in the "24hr drinking" law would reduce binge drinking and it hasn't.  Many people (myself included) believe the legal age should be raised to 21 just like it is currently in the US.

 

A lot of my friends wasted their student loans on going out and partying and a few even had to drop out of college all together.  I believe the legal age to drink should be set at 21 as the majority of 18 year olds do not know the full extent of the damage that can be caused by binge drinking.

I think statistics from other countries should be given great consideration.  Why make the same mistakes.  One of the guests mentioned that the drinking age is the only realm in which an individual is not treated as an adult in our culture.  This was followed by Dr. Phil's comment on the research that indicates that the brain is not fully matured at 18, but far more mature by age 21.  Perhaps we should  investigate the idea of increasing the age of consent for some of these other choices, such as marriage, voting, or joining the military.  In NC it has been  under discussion that perhaps the age of being allowed to quit school should be raised to 18 verses its current age of 16.  We should not reduce the age of becoming legally eligible to consume alcohol.  We should evaluate other areas in which age of consent is only 18.
 
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September 19, 2008, 1:23 pm PDT

lowering the drinking age

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Hi everyone,

 

I've just read about the Amethyst Initiative and how college presidents would like there to be a discussion concerning the age limit on drinking alcohol. 

 

The legal age in the UK is 18 and this means that our college students are legal to drink when they go off to university.  Does this stop or reduce binge drinking? I don't believe so in fact, when I attended university (I went late at 21) there were so many students binge drinking there would often be altercations between the bar staff and the kids!

 

Here in the UK many people believed that bringing in the "24hr drinking" law would reduce binge drinking and it hasn't.  Many people (myself included) believe the legal age should be raised to 21 just like it is currently in the US.

 

A lot of my friends wasted their student loans on going out and partying and a few even had to drop out of college all together.  I believe the legal age to drink should be set at 21 as the majority of 18 year olds do not know the full extent of the damage that can be caused by binge drinking.

excuse me but if you can be forced to go overseas to fight wars at 18, dont you think they should be allowed to drink.   drinking age in canada where i live is 18, and darn it all, we dont have the draft.

 

i just wonder how many young people are killed in the army,navy, etc, from 18-21 and thats ok with the government, but drinking isnt?????

 

please dont get me wrong, i dont even drink.   just think its such a stupid thing in the u.s. that the government can send people off to war to be killed or maimed but wont let them drink.?    old enough to have a gun and kill the "enemy" but not old enough to have a drink?   where is the sense to that?

 
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September 19, 2008, 1:38 pm PDT

LOWERING THE DRINKING AGE

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Hi everyone,

 

I've just read about the Amethyst Initiative and how college presidents would like there to be a discussion concerning the age limit on drinking alcohol. 

 

The legal age in the UK is 18 and this means that our college students are legal to drink when they go off to university.  Does this stop or reduce binge drinking? I don't believe so in fact, when I attended university (I went late at 21) there were so many students binge drinking there would often be altercations between the bar staff and the kids!

 

Here in the UK many people believed that bringing in the "24hr drinking" law would reduce binge drinking and it hasn't.  Many people (myself included) believe the legal age should be raised to 21 just like it is currently in the US.

 

A lot of my friends wasted their student loans on going out and partying and a few even had to drop out of college all together.  I believe the legal age to drink should be set at 21 as the majority of 18 year olds do not know the full extent of the damage that can be caused by binge drinking.

This is an insane idea.  The college presidents who think that lowering the drinking age will make 18-year-olds more responsible are extremely naive.  These kids are still going to be 18.  The only difference is they won't be having someone else buying their liquor for them.  Back in the 70's they tried lowering the drinking age to 18.  I had a couple friends who owned a nightclub and I was there the first Friday night that 18-year-olds could buy liquor legally.  It was a train wreck.  These kids had no idea what they were doing.  They were mixing their liquors, drinking beer after drinking hard liquor . . . it was a disaster.  I ended up helping behind the bar, and helping clean up the ladies room.  I've never mopped up so much vomit in my life, before or since.  These kids don't have any business drinking, unless it's under parental supervision.  Granted 18-year-olds are more mature now than they are now, but today's 18-year-olds are still much too immature to be drinking, legally or illegally.  Binge drinking is going to happen with 18-year-olds, whether they buy their own liquor or someone buys it for them.
 
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September 19, 2008, 2:07 pm PDT

Discuss Drinking Age

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Hi everyone,

 

I've just read about the Amethyst Initiative and how college presidents would like there to be a discussion concerning the age limit on drinking alcohol. 

 

The legal age in the UK is 18 and this means that our college students are legal to drink when they go off to university.  Does this stop or reduce binge drinking? I don't believe so in fact, when I attended university (I went late at 21) there were so many students binge drinking there would often be altercations between the bar staff and the kids!

 

Here in the UK many people believed that bringing in the "24hr drinking" law would reduce binge drinking and it hasn't.  Many people (myself included) believe the legal age should be raised to 21 just like it is currently in the US.

 

A lot of my friends wasted their student loans on going out and partying and a few even had to drop out of college all together.  I believe the legal age to drink should be set at 21 as the majority of 18 year olds do not know the full extent of the damage that can be caused by binge drinking.

I am the mother of two teenagers and obviously was a teenager....not so long ago.  I believe then and now, a teenager's mind-set about drinking comes from the parents.  When I was a teenager, in the late 80's, I abused alcohol regularly, all through high school...my father is an alcoholic.  I wasn't taught the right and wrong's of drinking; I only had my dad's example to go by.  I believed if you had one drink you continued until you passed out.  All was done very discreetly as I was under age.  Since it was discreet, that meant that we drove around and drank...that's right, we drove.

 

Now, as a mother of teenagers, my children know that there is a responsible way to drink.  That you can have one or two drinks and stop...and still have a good time.  That you don't need to drink to have a good time.

 

No matter what the drinking age, you will continue to have drunk drivers...everyday in the newspaper, you can read about someone, decades over the drinking age, that has had a drunk driving accident.

 

I believe the duty is with the parents to teach responsibility and with society to not tolerate drunk driving, of any age.  We need to make the punishment for drunk driving much harsher.

 

I believe the drinking age should be lowered to 18.  I believe it would lessen the binge drinking because they will no longer have to "hide" the party.  I believe if the drinking age was 18, people would be more likely to ask for a ride home, instead of "hiding" that they have been drinking.  They would be more likely to call their parents or a friend for a ride, instead of "hiding".

 

We don't need laws to teach the rights and wrongs of drinking and driving...we need parenting.

 

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September 19, 2008, 3:44 pm PDT

Drinking age

Quote From: rae_raye

Hi everyone,

 

I've just read about the Amethyst Initiative and how college presidents would like there to be a discussion concerning the age limit on drinking alcohol. 

 

The legal age in the UK is 18 and this means that our college students are legal to drink when they go off to university.  Does this stop or reduce binge drinking? I don't believe so in fact, when I attended university (I went late at 21) there were so many students binge drinking there would often be altercations between the bar staff and the kids!

 

Here in the UK many people believed that bringing in the "24hr drinking" law would reduce binge drinking and it hasn't.  Many people (myself included) believe the legal age should be raised to 21 just like it is currently in the US.

 

A lot of my friends wasted their student loans on going out and partying and a few even had to drop out of college all together.  I believe the legal age to drink should be set at 21 as the majority of 18 year olds do not know the full extent of the damage that can be caused by binge drinking.

I think if you make it a taboo then kids want to do it more. I think parents should be able to introduce their children to alcahol at 18. When we lived in Australia i let my daughter try beer and wine cause she asked what it taste like and she tried it and said it tasted disgusting.

Also if you are not going to reduce the drinking age then you cannot be an adult at 18. You cannot tell kids they are adults at 18 but you cannot drink alcahol. But you can fight and die for your country at 18, drive a car at 16 and kill someone, smoke cigerettes. You need to increase all the ages for all these to 21 or reduce the drinking age to 18.

You cannot tell kids they are adults at 16 and 18 and then sorry for drinking you are not an adult to 21.
 


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