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October 13, 2008, 5:31 pm PDT
 Quote From: danielamado I'm a guy and I'm not backing up the guys, especially the ones who can't control their minds and hormones, but women also dress in lustful ways and flirt with guys too much that it leads some men to do what they do and they end up raping women. I see women who like to tease guys and lead them on, and when they get the guys all fired up about the women they blow the men off. You don't mess with people's sexual feelings like that, especially when you know that guys will screw anything that walks and has boobs. The fact that you know that, if you decide to play the tease game then don't complain if you get raped. You get back what you put out there. If you don't like being raped or sexually molested, then stop flirting or teasing.
As for the inoccent women who get caught in this situation. First I would recommend every teenage girl by their freshman year in High School to take a self-defense class. Also I would say never go anywhere by yourself. bring at least 2 more girl friends with you. Don't go anywhere with a guy alone if you don't plan to have sex with him because most likely guys will have sex on their mind. Don't put yourself in that situation. If you ever do then at least you'll be able to defend yourself and may get a chance to run away and ask for help. Do all that you can to stay out of that situation. Double-Date, Triple-Date........BE SAFE!!! So women ask to be assaulted and raped??? Are you kidding me? Not only do you insult women but men as well. I know many men and am raising one young man who would not physically force themselves on a woman no matter what. No means no! Most men are not sex-crazed maniacs as you seem to believe. The only thing of value you had to say is for girls to take self-defense classes...but self-defense is good for both boys & girls. |
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October 14, 2008, 6:43 am PDT
Quote From: danielamado I'm a guy and I'm not backing up the guys, especially the ones who can't control their minds and hormones, but women also dress in lustful ways and flirt with guys too much that it leads some men to do what they do and they end up raping women. I see women who like to tease guys and lead them on, and when they get the guys all fired up about the women they blow the men off. You don't mess with people's sexual feelings like that, especially when you know that guys will screw anything that walks and has boobs. The fact that you know that, if you decide to play the tease game then don't complain if you get raped. You get back what you put out there. If you don't like being raped or sexually molested, then stop flirting or teasing.
As for the inoccent women who get caught in this situation. First I would recommend every teenage girl by their freshman year in High School to take a self-defense class. Also I would say never go anywhere by yourself. bring at least 2 more girl friends with you. Don't go anywhere with a guy alone if you don't plan to have sex with him because most likely guys will have sex on their mind. Don't put yourself in that situation. If you ever do then at least you'll be able to defend yourself and may get a chance to run away and ask for help. Do all that you can to stay out of that situation. Double-Date, Triple-Date........BE SAFE!!! This is such a load of you know what! Are you serious? Women don't ask to be sexually assaulted and are not reaping what they sow, by dressing in a 'lustful' way. A woman can dress however she desires - and a man too for that matter - People can flirt and tease and have fun, and then move on - that is not 'messing with someone's sexual feeling' - it's life. Most men - any decent man - will not 'screw anything that walks and has boobs. Most men know that when their date says no, it is no and that's that. You did mention a self-defense class, yes that is a good idea, but for boys and girls alike. We should be aware of our surroundings, but also be able to go on a date with the opposite sex without fear of having sex forced upon us, just because we are alone with the other person. I can't believe you have written such junk. If you truely feel this way, I suggest you get some counseling. |
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October 14, 2008, 2:35 pm PDT
Quote From: danielamado I'm a guy and I'm not backing up the guys, especially the ones who can't control their minds and hormones, but women also dress in lustful ways and flirt with guys too much that it leads some men to do what they do and they end up raping women. I see women who like to tease guys and lead them on, and when they get the guys all fired up about the women they blow the men off. You don't mess with people's sexual feelings like that, especially when you know that guys will screw anything that walks and has boobs. The fact that you know that, if you decide to play the tease game then don't complain if you get raped. You get back what you put out there. If you don't like being raped or sexually molested, then stop flirting or teasing.
As for the inoccent women who get caught in this situation. First I would recommend every teenage girl by their freshman year in High School to take a self-defense class. Also I would say never go anywhere by yourself. bring at least 2 more girl friends with you. Don't go anywhere with a guy alone if you don't plan to have sex with him because most likely guys will have sex on their mind. Don't put yourself in that situation. If you ever do then at least you'll be able to defend yourself and may get a chance to run away and ask for help. Do all that you can to stay out of that situation. Double-Date, Triple-Date........BE SAFE!!! This the problem with some in society, let's blame everyone else but not be responsible for our actions. As a parent we hope we raise our children with good values & accountability. I can't belive I am responding this. I hope some day you can respect women & realize what respect is.
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October 15, 2008, 8:35 pm PDT
Quote From: danielamado I'm a guy and I'm not backing up the guys, especially the ones who can't control their minds and hormones, but women also dress in lustful ways and flirt with guys too much that it leads some men to do what they do and they end up raping women. I see women who like to tease guys and lead them on, and when they get the guys all fired up about the women they blow the men off. You don't mess with people's sexual feelings like that, especially when you know that guys will screw anything that walks and has boobs. The fact that you know that, if you decide to play the tease game then don't complain if you get raped. You get back what you put out there. If you don't like being raped or sexually molested, then stop flirting or teasing.
As for the inoccent women who get caught in this situation. First I would recommend every teenage girl by their freshman year in High School to take a self-defense class. Also I would say never go anywhere by yourself. bring at least 2 more girl friends with you. Don't go anywhere with a guy alone if you don't plan to have sex with him because most likely guys will have sex on their mind. Don't put yourself in that situation. If you ever do then at least you'll be able to defend yourself and may get a chance to run away and ask for help. Do all that you can to stay out of that situation. Double-Date, Triple-Date........BE SAFE!!! Well this makes so much sense because everyone knows that god gave men a penis and a brain and not enough blood to operate both at the same time. Men are completely at the mercy of bodily functions and we should seriously consider removing them from positions of power. I mean can you imagine what would happen if there was a pretty large chested girl standing in front of the BIG RED BUTTON and the poor unfortunate man with a woody leaned over for a better look... poof... MUSHROOM CLOUD. Of course it would be the pretty young things fault that earth was annihilated because she is after all a woman with boobies, and you know how hypnotizing they are. So every responsible woman out there if you love your men and the planet earth please get yourself a burqa! ;-) |
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October 15, 2008, 11:20 pm PDT
Quote From: danielamado I'm a guy and I'm not backing up the guys, especially the ones who can't control their minds and hormones, but women also dress in lustful ways and flirt with guys too much that it leads some men to do what they do and they end up raping women. I see women who like to tease guys and lead them on, and when they get the guys all fired up about the women they blow the men off. You don't mess with people's sexual feelings like that, especially when you know that guys will screw anything that walks and has boobs. The fact that you know that, if you decide to play the tease game then don't complain if you get raped. You get back what you put out there. If you don't like being raped or sexually molested, then stop flirting or teasing.
As for the inoccent women who get caught in this situation. First I would recommend every teenage girl by their freshman year in High School to take a self-defense class. Also I would say never go anywhere by yourself. bring at least 2 more girl friends with you. Don't go anywhere with a guy alone if you don't plan to have sex with him because most likely guys will have sex on their mind. Don't put yourself in that situation. If you ever do then at least you'll be able to defend yourself and may get a chance to run away and ask for help. Do all that you can to stay out of that situation. Double-Date, Triple-Date........BE SAFE!!! You have some good advice on the self defense classes and not going anywhere alone with a guy, but I would advise not going anywhere with a guy until you know him very very well, you shouldn't have to agree to have sex just because you go somewhere with a man, date, or friend. Men thinking that you owe it to them is selfish and irresponsible. Men who take it without permission is a felon! What if it were your sister going off with someone she trusted then was molested or raped? What if it were your daughter?
Now using the same logic you have up there... if you are wearing tight pants or loose pants that show your boxers and it turns on some pervert, is it OK for him to rape you, just because you dressed in a way that excited him? What about that guy in jail with you after you force yourself on one of those women you don't have respect for? Is it OK for him to rape you because you put yourself in a place where you know it could happen?
NO is NO, it doesn't matter if a woman is naked right in front of you. If you don't have permission to have sex, vocal permission, then you haven't a right to talk her into it, force her into it or think she is there for you to use in anyway. Even if you bought dinner for her, paid to take her to the movies, you didn't buy her. If you don't learn to respect all women, you will find yourself in trouble someday. |
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October 16, 2008, 6:05 am PDT
Quote From: danielamado I'm a guy and I'm not backing up the guys, especially the ones who can't control their minds and hormones, but women also dress in lustful ways and flirt with guys too much that it leads some men to do what they do and they end up raping women. I see women who like to tease guys and lead them on, and when they get the guys all fired up about the women they blow the men off. You don't mess with people's sexual feelings like that, especially when you know that guys will screw anything that walks and has boobs. The fact that you know that, if you decide to play the tease game then don't complain if you get raped. You get back what you put out there. If you don't like being raped or sexually molested, then stop flirting or teasing.
As for the inoccent women who get caught in this situation. First I would recommend every teenage girl by their freshman year in High School to take a self-defense class. Also I would say never go anywhere by yourself. bring at least 2 more girl friends with you. Don't go anywhere with a guy alone if you don't plan to have sex with him because most likely guys will have sex on their mind. Don't put yourself in that situation. If you ever do then at least you'll be able to defend yourself and may get a chance to run away and ask for help. Do all that you can to stay out of that situation. Double-Date, Triple-Date........BE SAFE!!! Your comment is written with the mindset that rapes happen to females age, lets say 14-28 or so who are drunk, dressed provacatively and are "flirty" in their behavior. How, then, do you explain the rape of children who have no breasts or hips yet and are dressed in playclothes? They don't know what the word flirt means much less how to behave that way. or how about the older woman who is probably a widow. She is hardly dressed provacatively or flirting for attention. How about the college girl who is home for the night in her pjs? She has taken her make up off, has her glasses on for studying and her hair thrown up in a messy bun? Did you know that they too have been raped? Say a woman is baking something for her child to take to school the next morning and it's gotten late. She discovers she is missing an ingredient. Shouldn't she be able to run to the store even though it's late and dark to grab something she needs without the fear of being attacked in the parking lot? Or is that her fault again? Your view of rape is typical,sad and narrow. A womans dress, age and behavior has way less to do with rape than the males lack of control, sense of entitlement and base view of women. You say guys will screw anything that walks with boobs. Does that make you proud to be one? What does that say about your gender? Oh yeah that's just the way men are and we have to accept that. You are at the total mercy of your biology and completely helpless to control it. Thus the need for women to take self defense classes. What a sad state of affairs. |
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October 30, 2008, 5:49 pm PDT
Quote From: danielamado I'm a guy and I'm not backing up the guys, especially the ones who can't control their minds and hormones, but women also dress in lustful ways and flirt with guys too much that it leads some men to do what they do and they end up raping women. I see women who like to tease guys and lead them on, and when they get the guys all fired up about the women they blow the men off. You don't mess with people's sexual feelings like that, especially when you know that guys will screw anything that walks and has boobs. The fact that you know that, if you decide to play the tease game then don't complain if you get raped. You get back what you put out there. If you don't like being raped or sexually molested, then stop flirting or teasing.
As for the inoccent women who get caught in this situation. First I would recommend every teenage girl by their freshman year in High School to take a self-defense class. Also I would say never go anywhere by yourself. bring at least 2 more girl friends with you. Don't go anywhere with a guy alone if you don't plan to have sex with him because most likely guys will have sex on their mind. Don't put yourself in that situation. If you ever do then at least you'll be able to defend yourself and may get a chance to run away and ask for help. Do all that you can to stay out of that situation. Double-Date, Triple-Date........BE SAFE!!! this comment actually infuriates me. you have no idea what you are talking about. just because a girl is flirting with a guy does NOT at all mean that she is asking him to rape her. it is just part of human nature to be a little flirtatious. I was actually there the night this happened. Megan was one of my good friends from Dominican College. we were a bunch of kids having fun. and trust me, megan did not walk around saying to the guys at the party, "please rape me." this guys found a drunk and vulnerable girl and lured her out of the room and took turns brutally raping her. someone who wanted to have sex would not have the marks and bruises that megan had. and if it was something that she wanted to happen to her do you think that she would have felt so bad about herself that she committed suicide? i dont think so. you dont even understand what megan's mother and brother and all of her friends have been going through since this all happened so don't you go making assumptions that just because she walks and has boobs that she wanted to be raped.
i miss megan everyday and wish that there was something i could have done to stop this from happening to her. i would have put myself in her place just so she didnt have to feel this pain. i wear Megan's necklace the cindy gave to me everyday just to keep her close to my heart. rest in peace megan.. my guardian angel |
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February 18, 2009, 1:42 pm PST
Quote From: danielamado I'm a guy and I'm not backing up the guys, especially the ones who can't control their minds and hormones, but women also dress in lustful ways and flirt with guys too much that it leads some men to do what they do and they end up raping women. I see women who like to tease guys and lead them on, and when they get the guys all fired up about the women they blow the men off. You don't mess with people's sexual feelings like that, especially when you know that guys will screw anything that walks and has boobs. The fact that you know that, if you decide to play the tease game then don't complain if you get raped. You get back what you put out there. If you don't like being raped or sexually molested, then stop flirting or teasing.
As for the inoccent women who get caught in this situation. First I would recommend every teenage girl by their freshman year in High School to take a self-defense class. Also I would say never go anywhere by yourself. bring at least 2 more girl friends with you. Don't go anywhere with a guy alone if you don't plan to have sex with him because most likely guys will have sex on their mind. Don't put yourself in that situation. If you ever do then at least you'll be able to defend yourself and may get a chance to run away and ask for help. Do all that you can to stay out of that situation. Double-Date, Triple-Date........BE SAFE!!! It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt . -- George Eliot I know this is a very old thread, but your post just blew me away. I suggest you go about informing yourself as to what rape is... find out the myths and the facts. Your estimation of men is so low that it's mind boggling. I can't imagine what sort of people you must hang out with. And since you feel that this is the way men are, you turn around and blame women for 'putting themselves in situations were they're going to be raped'? Here are a few thoughts for you: 1) Circumstances do not create rapists. Rapists create circumstance. (Read that over and over until you get it.) 2) The number one factor that puts a woman at risk for being raped is living on planet earth. (Your post makes it apparent that you think women should move to another planet in order to be safe because men can't help themselves.) 3) Self defense classes are NOT going to help you if you are facing a rapist that becomes more excited and aggressive by someone resisting and fighting back. The thing that is going to help a woman the most is to listen to her instincts. If she can run, run. If running is not possible, then do whatever it takes to get out alive. (Not fighting back is a major guilt factor that many woman deal with because of the nonsense idea that she should always fight back, even if it increases her chances of being killed.) Think about this: The police consistently tell the public that if you are being mugged or robbed, give the criminal whatever he wants. Do NOT fight him/her. Your goal should be to get away with as little damage done as possible... like remaining alive. Why do you think the rules change when it comes to rape? They don't! I will say that I agree that women dress badly these days. The media has redefined beauty and equated it with sexy. Women want to be beautiful, and think that means they need to dress 'sexy'. It's not sexy and it's not beautiful... it's just trashy. But no matter how anyone dresses, they do NOT deserve to be raped. Ever. I also think it's pretty silly for you to say that girls/women should never go anywhere by themselves. How about we lock rapists up so women can go where they want, when they want, with or without whoever they want? Instead of continuously slapping men on the wrist and turning them back out into society to rape again? |
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March 17, 2009, 5:43 pm PDT
Quote From: danielamado I'm a guy and I'm not backing up the guys, especially the ones who can't control their minds and hormones, but women also dress in lustful ways and flirt with guys too much that it leads some men to do what they do and they end up raping women. I see women who like to tease guys and lead them on, and when they get the guys all fired up about the women they blow the men off. You don't mess with people's sexual feelings like that, especially when you know that guys will screw anything that walks and has boobs. The fact that you know that, if you decide to play the tease game then don't complain if you get raped. You get back what you put out there. If you don't like being raped or sexually molested, then stop flirting or teasing.
As for the inoccent women who get caught in this situation. First I would recommend every teenage girl by their freshman year in High School to take a self-defense class. Also I would say never go anywhere by yourself. bring at least 2 more girl friends with you. Don't go anywhere with a guy alone if you don't plan to have sex with him because most likely guys will have sex on their mind. Don't put yourself in that situation. If you ever do then at least you'll be able to defend yourself and may get a chance to run away and ask for help. Do all that you can to stay out of that situation. Double-Date, Triple-Date........BE SAFE!!! ... cuz it sounds like you're blaming the victims. However, if I may play Devil's Advocate here, I THINK I have an alternate take on the ill-conceived comments at the start of that message. There are some important things to take from this post and neither of them is to freak out at him about it. The obvious reactionary response is one of jaw dropping incredulity. How could he even SUGGEST it's a woman's own actions that lead to an attack? Now for the part I hate. The part where I think I see his point. It may be everyone's dream that we could all do whatever we want with no consequence but this is not the case. I for one appreciate the effort it takes to look nice, but I don't give the ladies any grief about it. The consequences described in the offending post are unfair and even cruel, no question, but they're also worth mentioning because it happens whether it's fair or not. Ladies, please for your own safety, don't dismiss this as a mindless rant. Flirting with the wrong guy and dressing inappropriately certainly does not WARRANT an attack and all sympathy is deserved when it happens. However, it only takes that ONE guy who isn't quite in the right amount of control, you know? They are in the minority, but they're always looking out for an opportunity. That doesn't make it the woman's fault at all but there is a possibility for prevention there. Just consider it. Things like not being alone with people you don't know, etc. To counterpoint this, even a guy has to be careful like that. For instance, if I happen to look at the wrong guy (or the girl he's chatting up) the wrong way, I'll be in trouble. It's not fair, but it's the world we're in. All that needs to be said is that you have to be a bit careful, sad as it is. Awareness is the real key though. There are a lot of ways to have fun and still come home safe. |
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