Replies to '06/06 "I'm Gay, OK?"'

This issue is not the first time. 

• The Jews killed Christ - and used Scripture to do it.  
• The Jews rejected the Gentiles - and used Scripture to justify their opinion.  
• The Catholic church rejected the reformation and used their interpretation of Scripture to justify it.
• The Anabaptist rejected the Holiness movement based on - you guessed it - their interpretation of Scripture.
• The Southern churches used scripture to validate their belief that slavery was God ordained.  

Shall I go on? Here is the Gospel of liberation, peace, love and justice. Used for what? To attack, kill and destroy the very people who would find Christ! What would Jesus say? Would He exclude any from His kingdom? Do you, and others like you, know the harm you doing the Body of Christ by your close minded intolerance? This woman is screaming out - "Stop the madness! Lives are at stake!!!" and 1/2 the church blissfully goes on as if they are not to blame. That somehow, someway... it's those "bad" people thinking those "bad" thoughts that got them into all of this. My heart aches and cries for the opportunities that are lost and the lives that have been lost to such thinking!  

Thank God!! the church is changing now though and there are over 3,500+ Christian churches from ALL denominations that have thrown their doors open to the gay community! Praise God things ARE changing! 

yup, that's pretty well my point. the shame and bad thoughts children pick up because they are taught that it's wrong to be gay, and who they are is wrong, and their only option is to hide who they are and live a straight life to be accepted -- THAT starts the shame and the bad thoughts that lead to suicide.  

re: the study - that study is of gay men, not gay people - the incidence of abuse in lesbian relationships is so much lower than both hetero and and gay-male relationships. on top of that, abuse statistics are almost guaranteed to be higher among minorities who experience discrimmination in society. I'll look for some stats on gay people - not just gay men in the morning, cuz the stats are lower. also interesting that when minority groups gain more rights in a society, violence (and crime and abuse and substance abuse too) rates all go down in the group. gay people certainly aren't responsible for their own oppression... anyway, I'll post some stats tomorrow. 

Also, I work for several organizations - a transition house for woem and children who've experienced violence, a group that supports adults with sensory and developmental disabilities, and I also do a lot of volunteer work with queer youth and youth with gender identity issues. 

The National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, aka NARTH, is not reliable when it comes to their attempt prove that homosexuality is a disorder and/or that one can change his sexual orientation from being exclusively homosexual to being exclusively heterosexual.  

NARTH has some members who have questionable lives of their own and some even have children who are still homosexual. So, in the latter situation, that is proof that their program does NOT work! Oh, note that they are registered as a "dot com" (.com) outfit and not a "dot org" (.org) outfit. 

So, the cited NARTH document should and must not be considered valid. I noticed that they give a link to what is supposed to be their source of information; but, you cannot read that source unless you subscribe to the cited journal.  

I also noted that the study of domestic violence was supposedly done as a sampling in only four large metropolitan areas in the USA. I guess that was the same sampling research which declared that 4 per cent or less of the total population of the USA is exclusively homosexual in their sexual orientation.  

In the 21 plus years that I have been out of the proverbial "homosexual closet," and openly gay, I have noticed that domestic (long-term same-gender relationship) violence is really very rare with gay men who are just normal men in their mannerisms and public and/or with family behavior. I used to live in LA and I know the truth.