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November 1, 2005, 4:35 pm PST

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My boyfriend and I have been living together for 9 month now and we have been known each other for 13 month. We both have kids. He has an 11 year old boy and I have a 9 year old girl. The thing is that now I am ready to move on to another step - get married. But I think he is never going to marry me. Why? I think I even know why! He is a very wealthy guy and he is just afraid for his money. I tried to talk to him to see what is going to happen to us in the future, because I want to know what his plans are and his responce was: "I just want us to be happy". But I am not happy. I tried to tell him that but he does not want to listen. I work and make very little money. I live in his house. He has his own money I have my own. He has all the benefits from us living together: he has a lover and a cook and a cleaning leady (Me) and what do I have? I just have to watch him spending lots of money on his son and me not been able to afford to take my daughter anywere. I feel so poor next to him, I feel like he can throw me out of his house any time he wants to. I spend alot of my money on the food for the whole family. Here's what I would like: I would like to marry him and I don't even mind signing a prenup where He would keep whatever he had before marriage and can give it to his son or whatever he wants to do with it in case of his death or in case of anything else. And he would never have to pay alimony in case of a divorce. But I want to have a joint bank account where he would put all the money he makes and I would put all the money I make (and I make ALOT less than he does I know that) in together so that we could be in charge of it together and so that I don't have to feel that poor and insecure next to him like I do know. I am very depressed....I would kill myself if I did not have my daughter that's how bad I feel. I feel like a failurer like a bad mother like a bad girlfriend like a looser. I see no bright future. I wish me and my boyfriend could talk........So we could come to some kind of agreement on how we are going to live together. He is happy and he does not want to change anything. He does not want to listen to me because he is afraid to hear what he does not want to hear. I don't even have a medical insurance because I can't afford it. He knows it but never offered help. He spends $800.00 a month just on the games with his son and does not want to help me out with the medical insurance and I will never ask for his help. What should I do? Am I just a bad woman? Do I just want to much? Please help me!!!!!!!
It sounds to me like you already know what you need to do.  First, let's look at this situation...you've only known this guy for a little over a year.  Why do you feel as though marriage is going to solve your problems?  You're saying that you can't talk to this guy and you feel as though you are only a caretaker.  Why are you letting yourself stay in a situation where you feel this way (HE has all of the benefits from us living together)?  It sounds to me like you're benefitting from living with him, you say that you're poor, but he's allowing you (and your daughter) to live with him.  Why do you immediately think that he should be paying your medical insurance over obligations for his son?  You're a grown woman - you shouldn't expect that just because you're with a man, he should pay for you.  It sounds to me like he has a good reason for not wanting to marry you right now.  You haven't said anything about caring for him or wanting to be with him...you just point out that he's not sharing money with you and that you could come up with ways for him to do that.  You're setting a very poor example for your daughter.  You're teaching her that she should stay in an unhappy relationship, instead of becoming independent.  Figure out what your reasons are for staying in this relationship..do you truly love this man?  If so, why does marriage matter so much?
 
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November 13, 2005, 7:21 am PST

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My boyfriend and I have been living together for 9 month now and we have been known each other for 13 month. We both have kids. He has an 11 year old boy and I have a 9 year old girl. The thing is that now I am ready to move on to another step - get married. But I think he is never going to marry me. Why? I think I even know why! He is a very wealthy guy and he is just afraid for his money. I tried to talk to him to see what is going to happen to us in the future, because I want to know what his plans are and his responce was: "I just want us to be happy". But I am not happy. I tried to tell him that but he does not want to listen. I work and make very little money. I live in his house. He has his own money I have my own. He has all the benefits from us living together: he has a lover and a cook and a cleaning leady (Me) and what do I have? I just have to watch him spending lots of money on his son and me not been able to afford to take my daughter anywere. I feel so poor next to him, I feel like he can throw me out of his house any time he wants to. I spend alot of my money on the food for the whole family. Here's what I would like: I would like to marry him and I don't even mind signing a prenup where He would keep whatever he had before marriage and can give it to his son or whatever he wants to do with it in case of his death or in case of anything else. And he would never have to pay alimony in case of a divorce. But I want to have a joint bank account where he would put all the money he makes and I would put all the money I make (and I make ALOT less than he does I know that) in together so that we could be in charge of it together and so that I don't have to feel that poor and insecure next to him like I do know. I am very depressed....I would kill myself if I did not have my daughter that's how bad I feel. I feel like a failurer like a bad mother like a bad girlfriend like a looser. I see no bright future. I wish me and my boyfriend could talk........So we could come to some kind of agreement on how we are going to live together. He is happy and he does not want to change anything. He does not want to listen to me because he is afraid to hear what he does not want to hear. I don't even have a medical insurance because I can't afford it. He knows it but never offered help. He spends $800.00 a month just on the games with his son and does not want to help me out with the medical insurance and I will never ask for his help. What should I do? Am I just a bad woman? Do I just want to much? Please help me!!!!!!!

Here was my situation briefly: After living with a man for 10.5 years in a happy relationship, where marraige came up once in awhile, I caught him cheating. In his defence he justified the cheating because we were not married.  I gave him 2 chances too many to change his behavoir and ended up walking.  I have never been happier.   

  

Since then I have asked him if we were married would it have made a difference.  He said yes, because he would have felt more secure.  I didn't feel any less secure not being married, nor did I feel that we were less committed to each other. I will never ever really know - who can trust a liar and a cheater. 

  

It makes sense to me to live together.  It is like a trial run, you can see if you are compatible living with one another, expenses are cheaper, blah, blah, blah. But, (and no that doesn't mean disregard everything I just said, it means - on the other hand) men seem to have a different perspective on the cohabitational relationship.  It's  like a freebee for them.  All the benefits of having a wife without the commitment. 

  

I will never live with man again.  Now back to you (this message board sucks, I don't remember who the poster was).  Often times we don't know what we can do because we don't know what we can do.  It is great that you have reached out for advice so you can see what some other options are.  

  

Of course he is happy!! You both think he has all the power and you are buying into it!! You sooooooo deserve better than that.  You need someone who appreciates you.  Why not start with yourself?  Find your self-worth.  Stop all of the "I'm a failure", "I'm a bad mom" , "I'm a bad woman", "I want to much" tapes and replace them with "I am worthy", "I'm an awesome mother", "I am a great woman", "I deserve more and I will get it!!".  I know exactly how much strength you can get from your children.  We all feel or have felt, while going through a crisis, if we didn't have this person or that person we would die.  The reality is we all have an inner strength and it comes when we are our own best-friends.   

  

Now, since you do have your daughter you can pull that into the picture and draw upon that strength, until you discover your own self-worth.  Do you want her to grow up thinking she needs a man to survive? Do you want her to see how you have to be disrespected in order to live? No, no, no... that is not what you want her to learn. 

  

There is no doubt in my mind that you are worthy of this man's love, and attention.  I don't think he is worthy of you giving him another thought.  Obviously, you entered into this arrangement thinking it was some type of partnership.  So, get a plan together.  Plan A, and Plan B.  Run them simultaeneously.   

  

Plan A could be you try to renogotiate what the relationship is.  Start by what he thought it was when you moved in and what you thought it meant when you moved in.  What you both think it is now and where you both want it to go, and come to some compromise. You must do this with confidence.  Pretend like you are a actress if you have to.  Say things like as if you were selecting a flavor of ice-cream, not like your daughter's life depends on it - because it doesn't.  And keep things in about a 20 minute time frame.  The goal is that he sees that you are worthy of a partnership, you have self-respect, and he is in training to treat you the way you deserve to be treated... Like the queen you are!! 

  

Plan B (in my opinion) should be you preparing to walk.  Where can you and your daughter go? Are there family or friends that will help you out?  Take inventory.  How much money do you need to save for another place to live? What kinds of programs are there in your area to help you? Maybe a church or other organization.  Stop providing extras in the current household and don't be guilted into spending your money on the household. Your contribution is all the other stuff you do.   

  

1. You are number One.  Take care of yourself!! Eat right, exercise, look nice. 

2. Be happy about it.  This will free you of a lot of stress. This is a happy time -  you get what you want or you go and get what you want. People like to be around happy people. 

3. Don't need him - really you don't need someone that is selfish and makes you feel like a looser.  No one has the right to make you feel bad!! Seriously, there is not one person that should have that much power over you.  He's taking advantage. 

4. Tell him what you prefer... I prefer to stay here and be your mate, but if you want me to move out I understand.  Like I prefer to have vanilla ice-cream, but if all you have is chocolate that's fine.  I would like to give my self to you but if you would like the gift of missing me that's fine too. 

  

Hugs, 

Kindle 

  

  

  

 


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