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November 2, 2005, 4:01 am PST

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

I have a 17 year old son with PWS, and yes, he has all the things you mention about your daughter.  It's part of having this syndrome.  I was quite upset when you said, "SINGLE Mom with two spoiled little brats".  Is that really how you see your children?  If that is the case, I only have pity for you.  You even say YOU are the one that spoiled them, and then say you love them?  I feel it's a shame you didn't contact Dr Phil on "how to deal with special needs children", rather than bring PWS into light in such a negative manner.  Just from reading your post it is very obvious you need a LOT of help, I can only hope Dr Phil was able to offer you the help you need.  You sound like a very angry young lady, and I can only hope your children don't suffer from your anger.  I will be watching the show on pins and needles.
 
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November 2, 2005, 6:01 am PST

11/03 Extreme Food Obsessions

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

This is such a hard topic and I'm sure that you coming forward is truly a cry for help. I commend you for that. But... I don't believe a way to get a child to understand something, PWS or not, by hitting is the answer. You yourself call both of your children spoiled brats, that attitude is negative. You need to find positive things about your children. Plus, you being a single mom at 24 is not your children's fault, it's a crutch for you to justify the things you do. My mother raised my 3 siblings and I on her own with no help what so ever from my dad or the state. I also have a brother who has a mental disease. My mother never called us spoiled brats nor hit us in the head or face when we acted up. Yes occasionally we got a swat on the bottom and I'm sure well deserved. I don't think the whole world thinks you are a jerk but some people really disagree with your tactics and you having the "BALLS" to come forward and airing your dirty laundry as you stated, comes along with criticism from people who disagree. You can't begrudge someone for stating what they feel and automatically get on the defensive... you put it out there for discussion. I can only try to understand what you may be going through and I really hope you find the answers you are looking for to help you and your daughter. Try to think more positive. You have taken the first step in getting help... that is never a wrong thing. I'm sure you love your children and want to do right by them... continue the march!!! Good luck to you and I will be watching the show!
 
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November 2, 2005, 7:19 pm PST

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

First of all I do feel for what you are dealing with. I am truly sorry you have been dealt this hand. It must be very hard in daily life. I do hope you can find help for not only your children but for you too. I know that it is hard to take what people say about your family; but again you asked for help and believe it or not most people think this is their way of helping:). Please remember these kids are a gift and can be taken at any time from this life we all take for grant-it. I work with a lot of children who have disabilities from Autism, to Emotionally Disturbed and even though these kids have disabilities they can teach us something everyday they are here with us. Good luck to you and your family.
 
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November 3, 2005, 6:15 am PST

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

The fact that you just referred to you children as spoiled little brats makes me very upset!!...your daughter has a condition she has no control over...I can honestly say that I have a hard time beleiving you wanted anymore that the attention of being on a national television program...for you to refer to your children that way is unbeleivable to me...they didn't ask to be brought into this world or have a condition not allowing her to lead a normal life...as for the 1 year old...why would you have another child knowing that you already have one with special needs and you are stuggling to get a grasp on life with her...none the less she is here and you have the privelege of being her motherand you should feel honored...the same if true for your oldest you!!! no matter what you think of your children they are wonderful little people who need someone to guide them and teach them and love them and beating her and screaming at her and calling her names and thinking that she understands what she is doing is abuse...I definitely acknowledge the fact that you need help and I am sorry that no one you know will step in but in that case you have to seek out other methods and you could have done that be acknowledging the problem exists first of all and doing reseach and taking measures in your own home to start the process before taking to the level of a national television show...there are resources out there but you have to be willing to take the steps necessary to seek them out...they are going to come to you...I hope for the sake of your two daughters that you get the help you need and if you don't I hope that someone will recognize the situation for what it is and your daughter is placed somewhere that she will receive the love and patience that she requires... 

  

  

 
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November 3, 2005, 10:29 am PST

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

I just wanted to say that I was on Dr. Phil's "stalking the stars" show and got a ton of negative feedback on here myself.  Don't pay any attention to it.  You did what you had to get the help that you KNEW you needed and that's all that matters.  The people on this message board that only have negative things to say need to get a life and realize that they can't possibly know anything about the whole situation because they are only seeing a 60 minute show.  So good luck with everything and I hope that Dr. Phil's advice will help you! 

  

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November 3, 2005, 12:51 pm PST

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

I thought Dr. Phil was very hard on you.  It's all well and good that other families are able to tolerante and cope with a child with a disorder such as this.  The fact of the matter is not everyone is wired the same way.  There are people who simply cannot cope with certain situations.  That does not make you a bad person.  You are a good person for seeking help in dealing with your daughter's disorder. 

  

 I hope you are able to come to terms with your daughter's PWS. 

  

 
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November 3, 2005, 1:14 pm PST

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

Nichelle, although I am not a parent of a PWS child, I am 28 and the sister of a 27 year old PWS woman. I was struck by your comment that "she knows that she shouldn't do it" as it resonated within my own experience. I know that when I was younger I often had that frustrating thought again and again, but only found it to be paralyzing. It was an easy out that made me feel OK about any bad behavior I'd exhibit toward my sister. I am not always proud of how I maneuvered myself in my relationship with her in the past and harbor much guilt about it. I am lucky compared to you, however, I was just a child and did not have the tools to always deal with her in a positive way. Now that I am an adult, I am trying to reconnect with her in order to realize the full potential of having her as an incredible force in my life. Don't misbehave now to regret it later. I absolutely sympathize with you and cannot begin to pretend that I know how it feels to be the mother of Savannah. I wish you strength and education in order to successfully deal with your life long journey. Take a Learning and Behavior course at your local community college or even just buy a text book over the net ( a great, easy to read one is : Learning & Behavior by Paul Chance, it's out in its 5th edtion right now, ISBN 0-534-59868-4). If only I had known then what I know now. There are so many ways to curb her unwanted behaviors and have peace in your house.
 
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November 4, 2005, 6:09 am PST

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

Nichelle, 

  

I watched the show yesterday keeping an open mind.  We all know commercials for programs are done to draw people in so I took them at face value.  I am a mother of a child with PWS.  She is the one of 3 joys in my life.  She had a late diagnosis of PWS and yes there was a point of denial for me also but then you realize you have to do what is best for your child and make the contacts you need for support and help.   

  

I understand how frustrating the behavior issues can be but the first thing you have to do is get stability in the house and work with the schools, doctors, dieticians etc.  Each of our kids are at different levels when dealing with behaviors.  You need to understand that alot of the behavioral outburst are impulsive and may not be able to be controlled if your daughter is not given the tools to try and control them.  My daughter had huge behavior issues starting around the age of 3.    She would drive me crazy but never once did I hit her or talk down to her.  I worked with the school to start behavior management programs.  It started with something as simple as earning stars for the day.  I provided the teacher with little trinkets from the dollar store that my daughter could earn.  Each year has gotten better.  At the age of 11, we still use a behavior chart and she is starting to self assess her behavior.  She does get some special privileges for good behavior for an extended period of time.  We also acknowledge that there will be rough periods and that changes in routine can cause rough periods.  The kids in her class were told about the PWS last year and are very understanding.  They even help her stay in line when she starts having issues. 

  

Although we still have a long way to go to completely understand PWS and why some are more affected than others, we have come along way.  There are alot of things we can do now to make sure our kids and adults are in the best health possible.  Please, Please work with the National association and your local association (if you have one) to get support.  Work with the doctors, schools, etc to get Savannah on a track to a wonderful life.  And there is nothing wrong with seeking help for yourself too.  We all have our bad days and trials.  The hardest part is going to be changing behaviors that are already in place.  Please take Dr Phil's advice and go to the garage and scream or hit a pillow when the frustration becomes to much.  I am not perfect by any means but we as parents must learn to cope with our frustrations in order to make it easier for our kids. 

  

Remember....You are not alone.  You have a whole national network of people who understand.  I will keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers. 

  

Melissa 

 

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November 4, 2005, 6:49 am PST

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

I think you need to realize hitting your child and not being able to control your anger is never excusable, there are many other people with children that have frustrating disabilities and never resort to being physical with thier child. That is something you need to work on and it is YOUR problem, not your childs. Your daughter didn't ask to be born with this condition and she understands it even less than you do, you know what it is now and have the ability to learn about it and understand it's ramifications in ways she won't be able to for years to come.  You do have to deal with it and you have to be the adult. Always. That's just the way parenting is. I understand it must be very hard being on your own doing it but maybe you should get some kind of support group so you can hold yourself together in front of your daughter. You call you children "two spoiled brats", you make your children what they are. They can only learn what they are being taught so maybe you need to reevaluate some things.
 
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November 4, 2005, 8:15 am PST

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OK, first of ALL... until recently I did not know what my daughter had. Second of all, your son is ONLY 21 months....you have NO clue what the future holds for you with a child who has that disorder. Savannah has terrible fits of rage, violent outbursts, and screams bloody murder when she doesnt get her way. DEAL WITH THAT!!! you havent seen anything yet. Im a 24 year old SINGLE mom with 2 spoiled little brats. I try to do the best I can. I DO spoil them sometimes because I love them, but its taking its toll! NO ONE who knows me will EVEN watch my one year old. (she was born a mamma's girl and a screamer!) IM ALL ALONE. I went to Dr. Phil for help because OBVIOULSY I felt I needed it!!! Can I get SOME credit?! People dont air their dirty laundry JUST BECAUSE! Do you think I want the whole world to think Im a jerk?! NO, but I DO Know I need help with dealing with my daughter. I cant handle it by myself. Dont come down on someone that had the nerve to even come forward! its a good thing! I HAD THE "BALLS" TO SAY ON NATIONAL TV WHAT EVERY OTHER FRUSTRATED PARENT IS THINKING, AND I WASNT SCARED!!!! be a jerk if you want, but i think I just opened up a whole can of worms...youll see. TUNE IN!!!! 

  

First, Awesome job on your part for getting help.  I can't imagine how hard it was to do that. I'm not going to pretend that I know what you are going through.  Like Dr. Phil said you are in way over your head.  You need a break, you need support, you need counseling.  After saying this....there is NO EXCUSE and NO DEGREE of stress that permits someone to hurt a child!  Walk out of the room, walk out of the house, slap yourself across the face-anything would be better then losing it and abusing your child. When I saw the humilation and hurt in your childs eyes when you ridiculed her about having an accident in her pants- I felt  anger towards you like I've never felt. I wanted your daughter taken away from you that moment.  But I know that because of a love you don't understand right now your daughter wouldn't want you to be taken away from her.  I think you need to be supervised with her until you get the help you need and your child deserves.  Have the human dignity to have someone else take care of  your child while you work out your own stuff.  Otherwise- if you can't do that ,step aside and give your child to someone who does have the patience and unconditional love to nurture her.  Don't wait until the authorities do it first.  You can do this! Please take care of the gift God gave you- your life and your daughters. 

 


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