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November 22, 2005, 11:34 pm PST

Infertility and Spirituality

Quote From: kimbrem

 I cannot believe you would be so full of yourself that you would assume that infertile couples haven't already sought their own spiritual advice, counsel and prayer, should they choose.

I cannot believe you would suggest to someone that has a medical problem that that person should seek not medicine, but instead their spiritual counsel. I cannot believe you would suggest that the problem with an infertile person is that they might just not be "right with God".

I assume you have no medical doctors, only spiritual healers and your family as well?????? I assume if you have a medical problem, you assume for yourself that you must not be right with your god? And your family members as well????

No, I don't really assume that at all. I don't presume to assume your spiritual status or how much or to whom you pray and if you told me you had cancer, I wouldn't think you needed an exorcism
 Pretty presumptuous to suggest one go to the "Lord, King of Kings" blah blah blah.....
Infertility is so extremely personal and I can't imagine it not leading a person to examine their spiritual station...just like when people become gravely ill - they think about the 'bigger picture'.
Also, I get tired of people saying things like "leave it to God"...so, if there is something wrong with me I should not go to the doctor? Why ever would God allow us to learn so much about the human body and advance so far in medicine only to reject it in favor of prayer?
In my faith we have a saying "tie your camel then leave it to God" - which means do all one can do to secure what one needs THEN (and in addition) leave it to God.

 
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December 8, 2005, 2:22 pm PST

So Defensive

Quote From: kimbrem

 I cannot believe you would be so full of yourself that you would assume that infertile couples haven't already sought their own spiritual advice, counsel and prayer, should they choose.

I cannot believe you would suggest to someone that has a medical problem that that person should seek not medicine, but instead their spiritual counsel. I cannot believe you would suggest that the problem with an infertile person is that they might just not be "right with God".

I assume you have no medical doctors, only spiritual healers and your family as well?????? I assume if you have a medical problem, you assume for yourself that you must not be right with your god? And your family members as well????

No, I don't really assume that at all. I don't presume to assume your spiritual status or how much or to whom you pray and if you told me you had cancer, I wouldn't think you needed an exorcism

One must wonder why ? I am a medical professional and firmly believe in 

todays medicine, however I also am an even firmer believer in the 

will and power of the man up stairs. 

I on a personal level know ,how much of a heart break it is to try and conceive 

and it just does not happen, for me personally I found great peace and 

comfort when all the burden was given to the higher power of all . Your 

attack in my suggestion odviously was not intended for you. But its possible 

it touched someones life . How in my statement would give you the idea I am 

full of myself , I am full of believing in the power and will of God.   

Maybe its your personal attacks on people and other reason you do not have  

what it is you desire. Why would someone be given the gift of life when they're  

is so sour about life themselves ??? 

 


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