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November 12, 2005, 3:41 pm PST

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

It seems unfair for you to say back off to this person. I don't really think they're attacking your friend. It was a general comment. There are SOME children who are absolutely miserable doing what their parents push them to do, and I do know that firsthand. I was a competitive tap dancer for 18 years, and I am a dance teacher now, and some of my kids (I call my students my kids :-) ) will actually come up to me and tell me that they like to dance, but don't want to do it competitively, but they can't tell their parents that because the parents would have a fit. Competitive dancing is really tough on kids, and even tougher if your heart isn't in it. Parents will be angry at me for not putting their little "Star" in the solo role or for not putting them in the front row, even if the child really shouldn't be there. The parents could care less if the kid actually likes to dance, or is even good, they just want their child to be the star of the show, and that is unfair. My youngest competitors are 7 years old, and there is one girl who literally comes to me crying every day the week before a competition and tells me how much she wants to play soccer, but her mom won't let her. Her mother was a dancer as well, and wants her daughter to do the same thing, and be better than she was. Her mother didn't get to compete very much and is openly bitter about that fact. I always tell her to let her mom know that she likes to dance, but doesn't want to do it 5 days a week, and would like to play soccer with her friends. She tells me that her mother absolutely won't allow that because "Mom knows best". It's really a shame to watch, and it breaks my heart. I wanted to dance, and my mom told me that whenever I wanted to stop, I could. It turns out that I love tap dancing, so I pushed myself. My mother always supported me, never pushed me. There is a difference between supporting your child's dreams, and pushing your own.
 
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November 12, 2005, 9:39 pm PST

11/16 "My Kid's a Star"

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

Children should not be punished for making mistakes in a hobby/activity such as dance, sports and things that are basically for entertainment purposes. That is wrong and cruel .now, I am not against discipline when it comes to wrong/bad choices and when it comes to participating in sports or whatever but if it is something that a child dreads and something that parents are FORCING their kids to do then that is plain wrong! Supporting and encouraging a child in something that they WANT and have a DESIRE to do is one thing, but to MAKE them do something that they don't really care about or want to do is selfish and not thinking about the child's best interest. Now, as far as my posts go, it has absolutely nothing to do with the particular kids on the show as the show has not aired yet, BUT I will respond and goive my opinions on the matter regardless of what others think and believe so get used to it, I post all over this these boards and I am not about to back off of responding or giving my opinions. As far as the little girl that you are talking about, I do hope and pray that it is HER wanting to go this route and it is for her benefit, not for the parents benefit. LEt's face it, whether you want to admit it or not, there are parents out there who control their children and force them in to doing something. just becasue a child is good at something doesn't mean they have to pursue it as a career and they should have the right to decide on their own. As I said before, my children have their interests and strong points which is something that we encourage but once they say they are not interested, then that is what it shall be, I refuse to FORCE my children into do something that they don't want to do.My daughters are four and two and they are still young and I will encourage them to be all they want to do and at the same time, they will not be ridiculed for something they don't want to do, not when it comes to sports and extra curriculum. They may be little people, but they certainly have minds of their own and when aloud to express them selves and talk about their dreams and able to go their own pace then they will succeed and be happy in the end, so many children are not happy. I remember when I was in 5th grade and I wanted to help in the lunch room as an assistent after lunch, well, I did it and had fun with it plus I got free lunches. Well, when the next semester came, I wanted to do something else but I was not aloud to, and I dreaded it. It was fun to begin with and I did my time but there was other things that I wanted to explore that following semester. To me that was bad parenting becasue I was forced into something that I did not want to do. Yes, at first, i did, and I signed the little contract for that first part of the year and when it was presented the second part of the year, I was forced to sign it, why? FREE LUNCHES and we had the money to pay for them but all the other kids in my home got to pack their lunches. it was not for any other reason but the parents wanting it. I feel that children have the right to develop their own interests and goals and when they discover something is not for them, then parents need to back off and accept that their little ones are growing and it is ok for them to explore nad discover them selves and parents need to be there to encourage and teach discipline but not punish over a mistake in a field. Any good parent will be able to see whether or not their kids are really interested or enjoying something and they will listen to their kids and allow their kids to be their own person, kids go through phases in life whne they talk about what they want to be when they grow up and it is usually severl different things because their interests and knowledge grows and int he process of exploring and trying different things, they then have the opportunity to figure out what works and doesn't work for them and this is what my children will be doing. Now, when they decide on something, they will be taught to keep a committment but once that committment has expired (such as mine at the end of the semester) then they will have more options. I had a friend who wanted to be on the drill team in the 10th grade, she made the team but discovered that she didn't like it, she finished out the school year but was encouraged by her parents to try something else that she might think she likes. Well, she did find that something eventually and she certainly has not failed in life. my point is to love and encourage our kids to be all that they desire to be and to be there for them and allow them to discover who they are and what they want to do in life, communication is a big key here and giving children choices definetly has it's advantages. I want my children to enjoy their childhoods and at the same time develop into the beings that they were meant to be, and I am not goingt o force my kids into something just becasue it is MY desire, not neccessarily theirs.
 
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November 14, 2005, 5:22 pm PST

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

I think the most important statement in your post is that "all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town"  What about what the kid wants? If she wants to be a technically correct singer, then she should be taking voice lessons and performing at concerts. If she wants  to be singing in bars and clubs, hanging out with people a LOT older than she is, and occasional bad influences, then she is on the right track. Lee Ann Rimes had a good song....... written by someone else. I hope this girl makes it big, but if she doesn't, there are a lot of seedy bars and bands always looking for a  "girl singer". Hey, you can make $50 a night plus tips!!!!!!  

And, never tell Jettav to back off- she always has good advice, a level temper and understands many viewpoints- unlike many other posters......myself included..... 

 
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November 15, 2005, 5:20 pm PST

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

You know, I don't have to know this little girl to see the hurt in her eyes as her mother is ranting about what she did or did not do during her performances. Its not about her talent, she could be the next LeeAnn Rimes, and in time I am sure she will be! But at nine if she simply posses the ability to get out there and try she's doing great! However... ease up on the kid, she is still a kid. You'll pass by these years far too quickly and realize the pain in her eyes you see here in these few pictures runs a little deeper than you would have ever dreamed. I am sure she loves what she is doing, its fun to get out on stage and entertain, Let it continue to be fun, its when you turn on the complaints that  it  turns out not be fun at all, that you as a parent have gone too far... no doubt this lil one has been brought to tears on several occassions by the complaints of her mother.
 
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November 16, 2005, 9:30 am PST

11/16 "My Kid's a Star"

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

I don't think its right to punish a child because she did something wrong in a performance...yes you need discipline for kids but not for doing something wrong that you enjoy doing...I agree with Dr Phil....after the performance say all the good things...at practice work on things that need to be improved...such I noticed last time you preformed you held the microphone this let us practice this way....but don't punish them for it...that is wrong 

  

 
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November 16, 2005, 5:09 pm PST

They choose the forum -- they face the consequences

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

The minute the parents chose to go on national television to discuss their problems they agreed to public scrutiny.   

  

Of course the producers have a certain take on things.  That's show business!  These parents better get a clue about show business because they seem so intent on the success of their children without care or concern for their emotional and mental wellbeing.   

 
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November 16, 2005, 7:14 pm PST

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

"all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW"???   

  

If Bridget thinks her kid's life sucks so bad that the kid needs to start planning her escape at age 9, why the heck doesn't BRIDGET do something to make it better??  

 
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November 17, 2005, 12:12 pm PST

Push and support are NOT the same thing!!!

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

I may not know "those" children but I do know "Bridget" 

  

One of my friends had a son who was an actor. He was driven to auditions several times a week from the time he was 8 years old (usually 2 or 3 hours of driving which meant they had to leave at 4 or 5 a.m. to get there). He missed a lot of school and when his marks suffered, his mom would argue with the school until they brought his marks up. After each audition, she would grill him... What did they say? What did you say? OHMYGOD WHY DID YOU SAY THAT??? If he didn't get a role, he would have to "work harder" for the next audition until he was staying up until after midnight (oh, he doesn't like to go to bed early anyway) practicing lines for a stupid commercial that was written for someone younger than he is or blonder or taller or shorter because often, not getting a role had nothing to do with the childs performance. 

  

He was in 3 major movies (small roles but very well paid) before he was 13 and then, suddenly he was being told by the adults in his life that he was going through an "awkward phase" ... those zits were so horrible he needed to see a specialist (they  were perfectly normal li'l acne zits most every child gets) and his diet had to be restricted. When well meaning friends (obviously you're not one of those since you watched that poor childs sadness and you're here on the defensive instead of talking to your friend Bridget) would tell her that she was pushing too hard, all we heard was that he loved it. I pointed out the sadness in him but she wouldn't see it.  

  

No surprise that this child is 18 now and has a grade 10 education (but tons of money in the bank for the college education he's never going to get) and a thriving drug habit. He's estranged from his mom and very angry. I'm estranged from his mom also because I felt a need to let her know how detrimental the things she was doing were to her son. I couldn't just sit by and watch him be abused because that's exactly what it is. Verbal and emotional abuse that threatens a childs esteem.  

  

When he turns 21, the money he made from all his childhood work will be his and it will likely completely ruin his life. He's an addict and the money will enable him to be really good at that unless he is able to pull himself out of the hole he's in right now.  

  

The thing that I find kind of surprising is that neither of his parents can see any fault in how they handled him. They still marvel at the fact that "good" parents like them could have raised such a son. He's the exact same age as my son. My poor kid always had a set bedtime, didn't miss school to perform and yet he's at a college for the arts pursuing a career in comedy. I didn't have to drive him anywhere... the drive was in HIM.  

 
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June 1, 2006, 6:20 am PDT

06/01 "My Kid's a Star"

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

it seems like bridget wants her daughter to follow bridget's dream, not her own. by chance, did mommy want to be a big famous singer but just wasnt good enough/ pretty enough etc.?
 
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June 1, 2006, 2:27 pm PDT

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i would just like to inform you that, you DO NOT know the children, all you see is what the producers WANT you to see therefore, you really truely can't tell if the child is happy, and i am a personal friend of Bridget's daughter and let me tell you she is extremely happy with what she does she loves to sing, all the time.........trust me i know, and if she really doesn't want to do it then she really doesn't have to not only that but its good to be punished because some people just let there kids grow up without punishment and when they make a mistake at something they just quit.and all Bridget wants is for her child to get out of this "great" little town we live in and follow her dreams and if she wants to be a singer then she has to start NOW because there are So many others out there wanting the same thingbut know one is there to push them or even support them...so you just need to back off! 

It's not really your fight to tell people to 'back off'. She is the one who submitted herself to be on the show. You didn't do anything why get so defensive? She had to expect this, and if it wasn't the whole story....she should have known thats how the business works. You also have a distorted view on how to make it as a singer. Go research about 20 of todays most popular singers and tell me how many of them were hard core child singers. Ever heard Avril sing as a child?Jessica and Ashlee Simpson? How about the top American Idol singers....? Britany Spears IS one child who was pushed and she did turn out well. Same with Lindsey Lohan. If you look at most of the popular singers now however yes they have been singing forever,but most were not pushed like this at all. I think thats the key point. The scolding of a child for a mistake like dancing the wrong way, not holding the Microphone correctly or missing a word or 2 in a song is a bit psychotic. I think THATS what people have a problem with. If you don't see anything wrong with ripping apart every little thing your child does wrong, then maybe it's something in your "great" towns water....its not normal. Funny how the child can be ripped apart after a show, but the second people attack her mother after the show who is a thinking grown adult---we're the ones who are wrong. Okay...think about that?!?!?

 


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