Replies to 'Spanking: Useful or Cruel?'

 

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August 10, 2005, 3:04 pm PDT

hi jetta

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I honestly do not remeber saying "non spankers" are wishy washy I think parents who don't discipline, use excuses not to discipline or for their children's behavior arre the wishy washy ones. And I have taken a stand, I am not against spanking so I guess I stand on that side BUT I do not think spanking should be used on every bad behavior that parents need to be opened to other disciplines and I do not care whether a parent spanks or not, the issue is to love and discipline our children to help teach and guide them and if parents are doing this, then I have respect for them. and as I have said many times, I know parents on both sides of the issue and they are good parents with good kids, the way their kids turn out is not neccaessarily based on whether or not they were spanked but it comes down to so many othere factors as well. It seems like no matter what I say or think, you are going to be offended, I apologized for posting the post where I did and if you would look at the title of that post, "so what is a wishy washy parent," I was defining my opinion on that. but I will not apoloigize for being the good parent that I am and I am not going to back down on my beliefs. I am not going to debate you becasue I have stated what I believe and I stand by ALL parents who love, respect and care for their kids regardless of the discipline techniques that they use. I have a group of friends from these boards who I communicate with on a regular basis, there are about 8 of us, some are for spanking and some are not but we have formed a friendship and we chat and talk on the phine and we share our family experiences and everything in between. We get a long wonderful and most of us met on this spanking board. We get along becasue we respect each other as parents and friends, we may differ on paretning techniques, whether it be spanking, schooling, bed times, what ever, we get along and believe me, I am not that mean spirited person that you think I am. I am sorry again for offending you but I am not sorry for sticking up for people on both sides of the issue and I will continue to believe that spanking is ok, even though I don't use it much! And yes, you are right, I don't have a problem expressing my self and when I see the need to apologize I will do that as well. So if I understand you right, you think it is wrong to stick upo for both sides of the issue and because I do this, I am not taking a stand. Well, I have spanked so that in itself should be enough to say that I am on that side of the issue but again, I have absolutely no problem with the othre side. I will be gone for the rest of the week so I will not be on much. maybe tonight, not sure, depends on what we (family) decides to get into today.

I can see nothing has changed on this board. I hope you and your family are doing well. We have been busy this summer, and now Brett is getting ready to go back to school. 

  

My views on spanking have changed since being on this board. I used to be very firm in my opionion that spanking is cruel. Although I choose not to spank my children, I don't believe spanking is cruel. Especially if other forms of discpline are implemented and spanking is a last resort. I think it is good to be able to see and understand both sides of the spanking issue and I think you do a good job with that. 

  

Have a nice week! 

  

Karen 

 
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August 10, 2005, 5:32 pm PDT

gotchya

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I honestly do not remeber saying "non spankers" are wishy washy I think parents who don't discipline, use excuses not to discipline or for their children's behavior arre the wishy washy ones. And I have taken a stand, I am not against spanking so I guess I stand on that side BUT I do not think spanking should be used on every bad behavior that parents need to be opened to other disciplines and I do not care whether a parent spanks or not, the issue is to love and discipline our children to help teach and guide them and if parents are doing this, then I have respect for them. and as I have said many times, I know parents on both sides of the issue and they are good parents with good kids, the way their kids turn out is not neccaessarily based on whether or not they were spanked but it comes down to so many othere factors as well. It seems like no matter what I say or think, you are going to be offended, I apologized for posting the post where I did and if you would look at the title of that post, "so what is a wishy washy parent," I was defining my opinion on that. but I will not apoloigize for being the good parent that I am and I am not going to back down on my beliefs. I am not going to debate you becasue I have stated what I believe and I stand by ALL parents who love, respect and care for their kids regardless of the discipline techniques that they use. I have a group of friends from these boards who I communicate with on a regular basis, there are about 8 of us, some are for spanking and some are not but we have formed a friendship and we chat and talk on the phine and we share our family experiences and everything in between. We get a long wonderful and most of us met on this spanking board. We get along becasue we respect each other as parents and friends, we may differ on paretning techniques, whether it be spanking, schooling, bed times, what ever, we get along and believe me, I am not that mean spirited person that you think I am. I am sorry again for offending you but I am not sorry for sticking up for people on both sides of the issue and I will continue to believe that spanking is ok, even though I don't use it much! And yes, you are right, I don't have a problem expressing my self and when I see the need to apologize I will do that as well. So if I understand you right, you think it is wrong to stick upo for both sides of the issue and because I do this, I am not taking a stand. Well, I have spanked so that in itself should be enough to say that I am on that side of the issue but again, I have absolutely no problem with the othre side. I will be gone for the rest of the week so I will not be on much. maybe tonight, not sure, depends on what we (family) decides to get into today.
 I think the problem I am having here is that I wasn't getting so heated over the spanking issue rather that I felt my advice that I gave to a mom who is having trouble with her son was interpreted that this parent was being wishy washy and so on.  and that is why the problems were there.  I am very passionate about special needs children and when a parent is trying, not being heard and asking for help then I would like to help any way I can. I felt that your statement was offending if it was being directed to her but you were just defining what you felt a wishy washy parenting style was in general. I just was confused by this because that wasn't what the post was about. I don't feel it is wrong to see both sides, nor should you back down on your beliefs. No parent should.  We do the best we can with what we have and hope that something we said or did sinks in when they are out there on their own.  Ok that's it because we can go around and around for ever and never really come to an answer.  We should be coming together and not against.  Hope you have a good week
 


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