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February 19, 2006, 9:29 am PST

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I appreciate your insightful comments, thank you. 

Since you were there when we did the taping, you were present for much more 

of our time with Dr. Phil than will most likely air Tuesday. Kelly and I are wagering 

between us - will I come off looking like a hero, or a zero. You don't ever know how 

the show will air after the production team pieces things together. We have been 

keeping in touch with our friends that were at the taping also, James and Amy. 

  

I decided a while back that perfection is in the eyes of the beholder and is also a function 

of present circumstances of life. Since the first show, I have really tried to put away the 

measuring calipers and white gloves - there are more important things to occupy my time. 

As you point out in your post, it would take an immense amount of energy to be so controlling. 

  

  

If Kelly actually smiles this time around and doesent look so unbelievably sad and lonely then odds are you will come off as a hero. 

  

As much as your first appearance on the show annoyed the ever loving crap outta me,  I cant help but hope you will come off as the hero and I will FINALLY see your wife smile and that light in her eyes shining away.  Shes much too beautiful of a woman to look so sad and alone.    Hope to see her smile!     

  

p.s.  if she still has the same horrid look on her face then expect to be hearing back from me!   lol 

 
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February 21, 2006, 12:42 pm PST

Something for everyone to think about

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I appreciate your insightful comments, thank you. 

Since you were there when we did the taping, you were present for much more 

of our time with Dr. Phil than will most likely air Tuesday. Kelly and I are wagering 

between us - will I come off looking like a hero, or a zero. You don't ever know how 

the show will air after the production team pieces things together. We have been 

keeping in touch with our friends that were at the taping also, James and Amy. 

  

I decided a while back that perfection is in the eyes of the beholder and is also a function 

of present circumstances of life. Since the first show, I have really tried to put away the 

measuring calipers and white gloves - there are more important things to occupy my time. 

As you point out in your post, it would take an immense amount of energy to be so controlling. 

  

  

 " A common and traditionally masculine marital problem is created by the husband who, once he is married, devotes all his energies to 'climbing mountains' and none to attending to his marriage or base camp, expecting it to be there in perfect order whenever he chooses to return to it for rest and recreation without his assuming any responsibility for its maintenance. Sooner or later, this "capitalist" approach to the problem fails and he returns to find his untended base camp a shambles, his neglected wife...in some way having renounced her job as caretaker. An equally common and traditionally feminine marital problem is created by the wife who, once married, feels that the goal of her life has been achieved. To her, the base camp is peak. She cannot understand or empathize with her husband's need for achievements and experiences beyond the marriage and reacts to them with jealousy and never ending demands that he devote increasingly more energy to the home. Like other "communist" resolutions of the problem, this one creates a relationship that is suffocating and stultifying, from which the husband, feeling trapped and limited, may likely flee in a moment of "mid-life crisis".
There is only one ideal solution: Marriage as a truly cooperative institution, requiring great mutual contributions and care, time and energy, but existing for the primary purpose of nurturing each of the participants for individual journeys towards his or her own individual peaks of spiritual growth."
-"The Road Less Traveled" pg 167-168 By M. Scott Peck, M.D.
 
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February 22, 2006, 12:53 pm PST

Really take a look at ourselves....

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I appreciate your insightful comments, thank you. 

Since you were there when we did the taping, you were present for much more 

of our time with Dr. Phil than will most likely air Tuesday. Kelly and I are wagering 

between us - will I come off looking like a hero, or a zero. You don't ever know how 

the show will air after the production team pieces things together. We have been 

keeping in touch with our friends that were at the taping also, James and Amy. 

  

I decided a while back that perfection is in the eyes of the beholder and is also a function 

of present circumstances of life. Since the first show, I have really tried to put away the 

measuring calipers and white gloves - there are more important things to occupy my time. 

As you point out in your post, it would take an immense amount of energy to be so controlling. 

  

  

 I disliked Grant to start only because I had a pre-concieved opinion of him. While watching it though, he was being completely honest about things and seemed open to help with his need to have everything in order. One thing I try to do in situations is put myself in both parties shoes. I am a little like Grant in a way, except I do not place my high expectations on others, but rather myself. Are part of my expectations from my childhood and upbringing? Yes. Is the other part due to the fact that I never gave myself a little slack when it came to my expectations? Yes. An upbringing is important but will only mold you partway. By then you can decide what it is you want out of life and how you want to be. I made the choice to be hard on myself, but after watching the show I am going to cut myself a little slack. I can't solve the world today and maybe not tomorrow either. I do need to find more happiness in life and cut my expectations of myself and of others down. I don't want to be 80 and realize that my life could have been more fulfilling if "I" had just let it be so. It was pointed out that only I have control over myself. This is true and a realization that everyone needs to come to terms with. I thinkk that Grant and Kelly will do fine if they take the advice that was given on the show. Kelly..you don't have to be perfect and it is wonderful that your children are your priorities. Someday, you will find a balance between being a wife, being a mother, and cleaning. Right now though your priorites are great and will lead you down the right road. Grant...You aren't the monster some people think you are and you will triumph by taking Dr. Phil's advice and just letting your expectations down a little each day. You have a wife, children, a roof over your heads, food to eat, and your health..be content with that and the details won't much matter after awhile. Good luck to both of you. May you find loving peace and acceptance in your lives!
 
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February 22, 2006, 5:58 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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I appreciate your insightful comments, thank you. 

Since you were there when we did the taping, you were present for much more 

of our time with Dr. Phil than will most likely air Tuesday. Kelly and I are wagering 

between us - will I come off looking like a hero, or a zero. You don't ever know how 

the show will air after the production team pieces things together. We have been 

keeping in touch with our friends that were at the taping also, James and Amy. 

  

I decided a while back that perfection is in the eyes of the beholder and is also a function 

of present circumstances of life. Since the first show, I have really tried to put away the 

measuring calipers and white gloves - there are more important things to occupy my time. 

As you point out in your post, it would take an immense amount of energy to be so controlling. 

  

  

We live in a judgmental and reactive world, and I think it's irrelevant how you come across to the world. I think the real service done is having Dr. Phil move beyond the polarities of right and wrong, and concentrate on the fact that Grant and Kelly are two people who are suffering, and have both the desire, and the capacity to create something different together. The real gift that I believe Dr. Phil gives the world is that he reaches beyond the behaviors that we can all get so reactive about, and shows us the deeper wisdom of our shared human fallibility...and even more importanly, that our lack of ability to love and receive love is only due to our own suffering. Grant is creating pain in his family, because he is in pain himself - on a level it sounds like he's just becoming conscious of... Even though it looks as if she's the victim, they're both completely disempowered. Anywhere we create pain for ourselves or others, this is the case. By giving away her power, she is definitely co-creating this situation. I believe that this situation calls for compassion and accountability in equal measure.....as is true for every one of us, in all the challenging situations in our lives. I think what is really true is that these are two people who really love each other, who are really trying to get their own needs met....and at an even deeper level they would love to meet each other's needs. The 'issues' between them are superficial, and detract from the core issues that keep them from really seeing what is in the way of their happiness. I think the personal attacks only make people defensive, and are not an invitation to open their hearts to find a softer, more workable truth. And from seeing some of the intellectual responses from Grant, it would seem that they keep him in his head, and disconnected from his heart. Men already have a huge tendency to do this, and that is why it is often so hard for them to hear (and validate) what a woman is feeling. I think if he could truly connect to the pain his wife feels it would break his heart into a million pieces. And I don't believe that she's a victim, either. She's chosen a mate who will mirror to her her own feelings of inadequacy. She'd laugh it all of if she didn't deep down believe he was right about her not being good enough....though, I guess it didn't seem all that deep down from watching the show. I felt the need to respond to this show, because I can relate to having a controlling, withholding, and critical husband. I feel so much empathy for Kelly's pain...and because of the work my husband and I have done together, I can feel emapthy for his pain. I have learned about the fear, pain, and feelings of inadequacy that are at the core of my husband's hurtful behaviors, and learned to see (and take responsibility for) where he's mirroring my own issues around self-worth back to me. In those moments when we can truly connect to each other's deeper experience we no longer are victim and perpetrator, but two flawed human beings who just really need each other's love and compassion, and forgiveness. Grant and Kelly... I really saw your commitment to one another, and I truly hope that you can find a way to a place where you both feel met, and safe, and loved...
 
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February 23, 2006, 8:29 am PST

Progress vs. Perfection

Quote From: gallen

I appreciate your insightful comments, thank you. 

Since you were there when we did the taping, you were present for much more 

of our time with Dr. Phil than will most likely air Tuesday. Kelly and I are wagering 

between us - will I come off looking like a hero, or a zero. You don't ever know how 

the show will air after the production team pieces things together. We have been 

keeping in touch with our friends that were at the taping also, James and Amy. 

  

I decided a while back that perfection is in the eyes of the beholder and is also a function 

of present circumstances of life. Since the first show, I have really tried to put away the 

measuring calipers and white gloves - there are more important things to occupy my time. 

As you point out in your post, it would take an immense amount of energy to be so controlling. 

  

  

I appreciate your response to my thoughts.  Grant, you seem like a really good guy.  And Kelly is a wonderful woman.   I suspected that due to the taping length and some out of sequence things that went on,  there would be some editing and re-arrangement.  But the way the show came off, I do not think you're a zero.   

 
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February 23, 2006, 9:33 am PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

Quote From: gallen

I appreciate your insightful comments, thank you. 

Since you were there when we did the taping, you were present for much more 

of our time with Dr. Phil than will most likely air Tuesday. Kelly and I are wagering 

between us - will I come off looking like a hero, or a zero. You don't ever know how 

the show will air after the production team pieces things together. We have been 

keeping in touch with our friends that were at the taping also, James and Amy. 

  

I decided a while back that perfection is in the eyes of the beholder and is also a function 

of present circumstances of life. Since the first show, I have really tried to put away the 

measuring calipers and white gloves - there are more important things to occupy my time. 

As you point out in your post, it would take an immense amount of energy to be so controlling. 

  

  

ZERO! 

If you are indeeed grant: Youhave no idea what it means to be a good husband!  

A good husband honors his wife. 

A good husband helps around the house. 

A good husband does not make "rules". 

  

Be honest. You don't love Kelley. You love yourself. 

 


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