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July 25, 2005, 8:29 am PDT

I'm so sorry about your son

On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide. He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs. Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him. I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

It would be very simple to start off by saying you shouldn't feel guilty but that would be more unkind than to ignore your story altogether.  Your feelings are very normal and I believe happen with most people who loose someone suddenly - especialy to suicide.  I used to help facilitate a suicide bereavement support group and sometimes people who come forward after 20 years to talk about how they felt - they had been carrying the guilt, sadness and sometimes shame for all those years. I commend you for stepping forward and reaching out.  I have no idea where you live but if there is a loccal Distress Line or Suicide Prevention Line you might want to contact them to see if they are aware of any Bereavement Support Groups for those who have lost someone to Suicide.  I found it truly heartening to watch the transformation of the participants from week to week as they were able to talk about the person they lost and all the feelings around it as well as begin the first tentative steps of healing.  Their are not guidlines for healing but in reaching out you are certainly makinig the first step.  You didn't mention you son's name but I know that he did not intend to leave you feeling the way you do.

 

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Cheryl

St. Albert, Alberta

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July 25, 2005, 7:41 pm PDT

Overcoming Grief

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On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide. He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs. Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him. I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

I know and understand you...... My thoughts and prayers are with you always
 
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February 2, 2006, 1:36 pm PST

Dealing with a suicide

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On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide.  He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs.  Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

 

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him.  I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

 

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

 

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

 

 

I fully understand what you are saying January 8th the absolute love of my love commited suicide also.  He to cried wolf many many times and often just needed me to help him through it.  On Sunday i told him I couldn't help him anymore and this is when he did it.  I feel real quilty now because I wasn't there to help him when he needed me.  I just thought it was going to be another one of those days.  I have a hard time functioning during the day and was hospitalized once already.  He was my soulmate and we were just starting to get this together.  I told him that morning that I was going to move in with him and our life was set.  I don't understand why he chose that day to do it.  I am so confused and extremely hurt I am not sure how to deal with it. 
 
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July 13, 2006, 10:24 am PDT

Overcoming Grief

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On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide.  He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs.  Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

 

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him.  I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

 

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

 

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

 

 

Hi Conniedobe, 

      I am truly sorry to hear of your loss. I know about the guilt you are feeling for not being able to help your son. I just lost my brother who was 49. He also committed suicide, and we were very close. Given that fact, I still don't know why he didn't turn to me for help. I talked to him several times a day by phone and email. I saw him 2-3 times a week, so why didn't I know this was coming? We were both very depressed with reason, because we were seeing my mom going through radiation every day for 35 treatments. She also has emphysema to add to the problem. I didn't think too much about him seeming down, because I was too; who wouldn't be down when seeing their mother suffer. Bobby had many other issues to deal with, such as his 7 month old divorce, and his being out of work because of a pinched nerve in his neck, but I never thought he would do this to all of us who loved him so dearly, especially mom, who is going through so much. I can't even begin to imagine the pain that poor kid must have been in to take such a drastic measure without thinking of any of us or his 2 children who are 20 and 23. This is what makes me so sad to know how sad my baby brother was. It helps to get this out, and I want to thank all for listening. My prayers are with all of you who are feeling as I do. Thanks again! Dongy 

 
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November 10, 2006, 9:26 pm PST

Been there...

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On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide.  He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs.  Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

 

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him.  I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

 

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

 

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

 

 

I am truly sorry for the loss of your son. Unfortunately you and I share something in common. My husband died May 10, 2003, and even though it's been 3.5 yrs., I'm still having a hard time dealing with his death, and trying to raise our 2 teenage girls. I do care, and now I will know that somebody else out there shares the same day, and similar pain. I say similar pain because I don't know what it's like to lose a child; but losing one's spouse is bad enough. My husband's death was also a suicide, and he was only 41.

 

Yours truly,

 

 

Laurie

 
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December 7, 2006, 1:45 pm PST

you are in my thoughts

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On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide.  He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs.  Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

 

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him.  I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

 

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

 

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

 

 

Please know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.  As someone who has worked for many years in the criminal justice system, I know how often that sort of deplorable oversight happens.  The system is simply not equipped, through resources or staff, to handle the mental and emotional needs of everybody in it.

 

Please know, too, that you were not responsible for notifying the authorities.  Hindsight is 20/20, and I'm sure you believe the signals were much clearer than in fact they were.  Also, most correctional facilities have clear policies on suicide watch and prevention.  It is likely that if your son had asked for help, he would at least have received monitoring to prevent him from acting on his mood.

 

None of this helps, I know.  But please know that at least one person read your post and is pulling for you.  Please be kind and patient with yourself.

 
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April 16, 2008, 11:35 pm PDT

guilt

Quote From: conniedobe

On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide.  He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs.  Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

 

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him.  I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

 

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

 

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

 

 

my step-dad shot himself on april 16, 91. that would be today. i have never really gotten over the guilt. i know now that hindsight is really 20/20. if i could go back i would, but i know i can't and if i did would i chonge things or just delay them? people say that suicide is a victimless crime, but the true victims of suicide are the ones left behind to deal with the guilt and the what ifs. you blame your self because you know you could have prevented this from happening this time. one thing i have learned is there would be a next time. would you be there then or feeling how you do now?

 

 

 

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April 25, 2008, 7:42 am PDT

Overcoming Grief

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On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide.  He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs.  Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

 

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him.  I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

 

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

 

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

 

 

I am so sorry for your loss...I lost my 24 year old son to suicide on May 19, 2006.  He suffered from bi polar.  I understand your grief.   It hurts so much.

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Pam

 
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July 30, 2008, 6:57 pm PDT

i am so sorry

Quote From: conniedobe

On May 10, 2005 my 39 year old son comitted suicide.  He had been incarcerated for 9 months and was depressed and the jail would not give him his antidepressant drugs or his anxiety drugs.  Consequently he began to loose hope and hung himself.

 

I had spoken to him just 1 hour before the guards found him.  I had a strange feeling, but did nothing about it.

 

I feel very guilty for not notifying the authorities, but my son had often "cried wolf" so many times.

 

I'm having a very difficult coping with my guilt and most of the loss of my first born.

 

 

MI am so sorry.  I just recently lost my husband/my best friend/sweetheart/lover/ SOUL MATE to suicide 11-29-2007.   Nine years ago 02-1999 my stepson that had Chrons disease and was disabled from the time he was very young on top of it, brillant but troubled  bi-polar/schizophrenic -the depression runs on my husband's side of the family.   I have lost my entire world.  It was so hard for him.  He was so wonderful-my husband was kind, loving good as the day is long.  smart, gentle, strong, loving, gave me space in our relationship.  jWe were both Geminis-I'm a double Gemini and have psychic ability.  U have no idea how it is to literally feel him being emotionally/spiritually attacked.  I tried so hard to get him  help but it all ultimately did no good.  I saw him literally diseintegrate in front of my eyes.  I did everything to try and help him.   We went through so many things together.  He saw firsthand my father's alcoholism and his abuse of me.  My dad was wonderful growing up but lack of self esteem/self hatred/feeling he didn't deserve better, I suppose.  He retired & last 30 yrs raging nasty alcoholic & my mother's always been verbally/emotionally abusive to me. Not to my brothers.  Of course my oldest brother understood pretty much.   My other 2 brothers-i'm the only sister ostracize me. I'm the only functional one.  My oldest brother just turn 59 had a ht attack & died in his sleep 07-16-08 & my father died a week later. No one even called me or emailed me. I am barely emotionally hanging on. I'm losing my condo, have to move by myself out of state in w/my girlfriend who is not well herself & her husband, no job but I have federal pension from my federal career w/SSA of 28 yrs.  I have survived being sick very sick last 17 yrs . My husband was sexually abused by his sick twisted messed up mother her sister-my husband's aunt and their sicko friends.  No my step-dtr and I are unfortunately in the same club.  she has no other siblings.  She pushed away her father because she felt she didn't get the attention that her brother did. which wasn't done purposely but my husband's son was so very ill for yrs.  Now, we're talking a lot. I told him she loved him I knew it. I felt it in my ht.  He hung himself in the bathrrom I found him-was in nsg school didn't finish but I stay very calm in emergencies.  I ran called 911-thought he'd had a ht attack or passed out in bathroom.  I didn't see at 1st that he'd hung himself.  I just saw him slumped over in the corner w/his head down & I knew it was very hot in bathroom.  called 911 yelled out my front door help someone help then ran back, tried to lift him up.  He was 5'10" 185 lbs very stocky man-solid for age 62/in good physical shape. When I tried to lift him I couldn't get him up, then saw he hung himself w/fishing twine double yellow. I cut him down, held his head/neck & got him down, did cpr & my friend whos psychotherapist did it w/me.  too late. I am even denied our private ins. policy as we just changed it same month he did this lowering from $150,000 down to $100,000.   He was such a perfect man//husband/companion.  I have survived gastric bypass, lost 100 lbs and still overcoming other physical things-diabetes, bad neck, tzietse syndrome-auto immune system.  I have my pension/fedl hlth coverage. I will eventually return to college and get nursing degree. I am so different only 54 but my hts broken. I'm so different-pretty, smart, independent. My hubby said I eat nails spit rust.  His mother was career woman & my husband encouraged my intelligence but I'm veyr loving/maternal/caring/best friend, gourmet cook, 4 octave singing voice.  He was never threatened by me.  He was so handsome--to me at least.  I am trying not to cry.  Too many losses.  u can email me directly if u want v w big red at yahoo all together or barbarajkfellerat g mail dot com.  My mother said something horrific to me on the p hone she's a Christian and will pray for me.  She said my dtrs in law are my REAL DTRS.   which meant I am not what else is new I can't win even if I do everything perfect-according to her but she loves me    or so her words say   actions speak louder than words   Jesus loves me better than she ever would   I will survive he will help me and my friends and loved ones are my true family  I will not lay my heart out for any more abuse from my mothers or 2 useless hateful brothers  no one even sent me a sympathy card from my entire family  friends loved ones co workers but no family so to speak of    only my oldest brother called me for an hour   oh well god bless u and hang in there I loved my stepson Kevin Feller like my own son.    My husband Stuart Feller is now with God and Kevin.        
 


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