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February 23, 2006, 5:27 pm PST

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Want to talk about lying? Let's start w/how we bring up our children we start with Santa Claus move on to the tooth fairy, then go to the easter bunny,oh yeah leprechauns bring pots of gold, 4 leaf clovers bring luck(if that was true I'd be richeer than oprah, skinny,and beautiful). We tell oour children its wrong to lie but then we teach them to lie. American society is built on lies. Every man is equal (the people who wrote that are celebrated liars as they had black men and women in slavery at the time, freedom again when that was wrote slavery was booming in America. ALL lying is wrong. We feel lying is wron when we are the one lied to what about when we are the liar and everyone on earth has lied at least once(and that's a big stretch saying once) in their life. Men lie to women toget sex, women lie to get what they want, kids lie to get out of trouble or get what they want.. The President is the current biggest liar in America and getting paid by our taxes to do it. It's wrong and the Bible says a liar is the same as a thief and a murderer- they steal the truth and murder it.  
This is a very interesting take on the subject.    It made me think further than my family liar.    I saw on TV that normal people lie constantly in social situations.   It makes life easier to say someone has a nice dress when you think it is ugly as sin for example.   People also routinely lie to exagerate their good points and of course at the beginning of a dating relationship there is a lot of lying going on.     I guess we are all liars and that's no lie.
 
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February 23, 2006, 6:11 pm PST

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Want to talk about lying? Let's start w/how we bring up our children we start with Santa Claus move on to the tooth fairy, then go to the easter bunny,oh yeah leprechauns bring pots of gold, 4 leaf clovers bring luck(if that was true I'd be richeer than oprah, skinny,and beautiful). We tell oour children its wrong to lie but then we teach them to lie. American society is built on lies. Every man is equal (the people who wrote that are celebrated liars as they had black men and women in slavery at the time, freedom again when that was wrote slavery was booming in America. ALL lying is wrong. We feel lying is wron when we are the one lied to what about when we are the liar and everyone on earth has lied at least once(and that's a big stretch saying once) in their life. Men lie to women toget sex, women lie to get what they want, kids lie to get out of trouble or get what they want.. The President is the current biggest liar in America and getting paid by our taxes to do it. It's wrong and the Bible says a liar is the same as a thief and a murderer- they steal the truth and murder it.  
I for one do not and have not taught my child about Santa, tooth fairy, etc.  because I don't believe.   However she does believe, and that is strictly for social situations, I mean why do I have to be careful around others children, I/we  say things in company of others, and will say for instance that there is no Santa Claus.   I do it in part of our economic situation, because if she wants something that is beyond my realm, than she needs to know that some kid in our situation will not get the XBOX 360.  

Kudos to you for saying our President is the biggest liar...    LOL....  

I have lied in the past, and probably will do so in the future, but to me a LIE IS A LIE.... 
 
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February 24, 2006, 2:58 pm PST

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Want to talk about lying? Let's start w/how we bring up our children we start with Santa Claus move on to the tooth fairy, then go to the easter bunny,oh yeah leprechauns bring pots of gold, 4 leaf clovers bring luck(if that was true I'd be richeer than oprah, skinny,and beautiful). We tell oour children its wrong to lie but then we teach them to lie. American society is built on lies. Every man is equal (the people who wrote that are celebrated liars as they had black men and women in slavery at the time, freedom again when that was wrote slavery was booming in America. ALL lying is wrong. We feel lying is wron when we are the one lied to what about when we are the liar and everyone on earth has lied at least once(and that's a big stretch saying once) in their life. Men lie to women toget sex, women lie to get what they want, kids lie to get out of trouble or get what they want.. The President is the current biggest liar in America and getting paid by our taxes to do it. It's wrong and the Bible says a liar is the same as a thief and a murderer- they steal the truth and murder it.  

The next time you walk into your church, walk up to all the gossips and tell them, "You are a filthy gossip."  Hey, it's the truth.  You gotta tell it.  See how well that goes over.  Then tell the bad singers in the choir, "You sound like a screaming cat in a bucket."  Hey, it's the truth.  You gotta tell it.  See how well that goes over.  Then follow the deacons, and anyone who puts in any less than a ten spot walk up to them and say, "You're ripping off God." Hey, it's the truth.  You gotta tell it.  See how well that goes over.  Then when the pastor misquotes one single word from the Bible, stand up immediately and scream at the top of your lungs, "You misquoted the Bible!  Only a true man of God could read the Bible word for word!"  Hey, in your world, it's the truth.  See how that goes over. 

  

After you've done all this and you get home, go stand in front of a mirror and look at yourself long and hard.  Then ask yourself, was it worth making all those people hurt and angry to hang on to the truth?  Then ask yourself, hey wasn't I judging all those people on the Dr. Phil board for lying when I don't know them and God is the ultimate judge and I just tried to take his job?  I think you'll not be too pleased with yourself after that. 

  

P.S.  For extra credit, during the Christmas season, walk up to the mall Santa as he is talking to a bright-eyed, hopeful toddler.  Scream at the top of your lungs, "THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS SANTA CLAUS!"  Then post us and let us know how many parents beat you up, how long it took you to post bail, etc.  Then consider keeping your opinions to yourself and allowing the rest of our children to keep their imaginations and their beliefs in all things magical.  Remember, to our little children, God is magical too. 

 
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February 24, 2006, 3:29 pm PST

Big difference.......

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Want to talk about lying? Let's start w/how we bring up our children we start with Santa Claus move on to the tooth fairy, then go to the easter bunny,oh yeah leprechauns bring pots of gold, 4 leaf clovers bring luck(if that was true I'd be richeer than oprah, skinny,and beautiful). We tell oour children its wrong to lie but then we teach them to lie. American society is built on lies. Every man is equal (the people who wrote that are celebrated liars as they had black men and women in slavery at the time, freedom again when that was wrote slavery was booming in America. ALL lying is wrong. We feel lying is wron when we are the one lied to what about when we are the liar and everyone on earth has lied at least once(and that's a big stretch saying once) in their life. Men lie to women toget sex, women lie to get what they want, kids lie to get out of trouble or get what they want.. The President is the current biggest liar in America and getting paid by our taxes to do it. It's wrong and the Bible says a liar is the same as a thief and a murderer- they steal the truth and murder it.  

 There is a BIG difference between children and fairytales and a grown man ruining a persons credit or a teenager telling lies about her dad and pretenting to be pregnant. 

  

To suck the excitment out of  childhood fairytales is sad.  

  

  

  

 
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February 24, 2006, 10:50 pm PST

Your right

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Want to talk about lying? Let's start w/how we bring up our children we start with Santa Claus move on to the tooth fairy, then go to the easter bunny,oh yeah leprechauns bring pots of gold, 4 leaf clovers bring luck(if that was true I'd be richeer than oprah, skinny,and beautiful). We tell oour children its wrong to lie but then we teach them to lie. American society is built on lies. Every man is equal (the people who wrote that are celebrated liars as they had black men and women in slavery at the time, freedom again when that was wrote slavery was booming in America. ALL lying is wrong. We feel lying is wron when we are the one lied to what about when we are the liar and everyone on earth has lied at least once(and that's a big stretch saying once) in their life. Men lie to women toget sex, women lie to get what they want, kids lie to get out of trouble or get what they want.. The President is the current biggest liar in America and getting paid by our taxes to do it. It's wrong and the Bible says a liar is the same as a thief and a murderer- they steal the truth and murder it.  
So many parents find that being a good example is the best way to teach children.  Well, here's your chance to nip the lying in the butt.  Don't deliberatly lie to your children.  When they find out santa isn't real, easter bunny isn't real, tooth fairy isn't real.... they begin to question what else you said that isn't real.  Like what about God, is he make beleive like the rest of them?.. Don't let your children ever question such a thing.  Honesty is always the bettter route to take.  It does not fail.  There is a difference between being honest and being brutely hateful, rude and critisizing.  I agree with your statement about truth.  And I know it is an easy alternative from what we are used to.  Don't break trust with your child, as adults, we can acknowledge the power of trust in any relationship.
 
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February 25, 2006, 12:38 pm PST

SANTA CLAUSE

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Want to talk about lying? Let's start w/how we bring up our children we start with Santa Claus move on to the tooth fairy, then go to the easter bunny,oh yeah leprechauns bring pots of gold, 4 leaf clovers bring luck(if that was true I'd be richeer than oprah, skinny,and beautiful). We tell oour children its wrong to lie but then we teach them to lie. American society is built on lies. Every man is equal (the people who wrote that are celebrated liars as they had black men and women in slavery at the time, freedom again when that was wrote slavery was booming in America. ALL lying is wrong. We feel lying is wron when we are the one lied to what about when we are the liar and everyone on earth has lied at least once(and that's a big stretch saying once) in their life. Men lie to women toget sex, women lie to get what they want, kids lie to get out of trouble or get what they want.. The President is the current biggest liar in America and getting paid by our taxes to do it. It's wrong and the Bible says a liar is the same as a thief and a murderer- they steal the truth and murder it.  

I'm sorry but I couldn't help but have a hearty laugh that you end your post with a quote from the bible... a book written by Santa Clause, edited by the Easter Bunny and illustrated by the Tooth Fairy. 

  

Enjoying the mystery and magic of Christmas morning with the sparkle in a child's eye as they marvel at their gifts can't be compared to stealing a person's social security number, opening a credit card account, charging it up all the way and not paying a penny. To compare the two isn't logical or rational..... the only thing I see in your post is a person scrounging around for an excuse for themself. 

 


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