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April 14, 2006, 5:21 pm PDT

Unfortunatley You Are Right James

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  Its all great and well what Dr Phil and his family and others are trying to do and hey my hats off to them all. Problem is most only will tell part of the truth or dont know what the real truth is.

 We do live in a society that has been broken and corrupt, we live in a society that claims our children must be protected and our children are our future but yet what our society really does is hurt these children and care more about money then anything. When there is a price tag on a child then this is a very sad world we live in.

 Now I am not saying everybody is like this as I know some people (very few) have a good heart and do try to do the right thing. Before making a judgement on my statements and post please read the entire post.

 For a few facts that most people dont know because Social Services hides these facts from the public.

 Fact: There is over 1 Million children in fostercare
 Fact: There are over 8,000 false reports made daily
 Fact: Social Services national budget is in excess of $285 BILLION
 Fact: 80% of children in foster care dont even belong there

 These are just a few facts that are the truth and not some made up numbers. Now lets get down to the real truth of what really goes on in our system.

 Social services is under no obligation to prove anything to the courts and what they say to the courts becomes the truth. No Evidence and No Facts need to be given to the courts by social services. Social Services can get an ex-parte based only on a statement from the social worker, it dont matter if they can prove what they say or not. Social Services can say and do as they please in a court of law also, they can descriminate, they can extend court, they can withold information, they can even break court orders and still social services will still win in court.

 How do I know these facts ? Because I am a victim of this corrupt government that has "stole" my children for nothing more then a false report. Now before you say I was probably a bad parent, read the truth and facts below...

 My landlord (I rent the property only but own my home) reported my wife and I to DSS for failure to pay rent and said we was being evicted.  My landlord made 4 reports as a matter of fact, and in every report his story was changed and did not match the story he told before ( Yes I do have the real reports directly from DSS).  Not once did DSS question this and not once did DSS check with the magistrate or the police department to see if what my landlord reported was true or not. Yes DSS did not investige at all, they just took the false report and ran with it to the judge.

 Now at this same time I already had a judgement against DSS for trying this same thing in 1999 and yes DSS lost in court and was ordered not to return to our home. DSS just ignored this court order and came to our home anyways and claimed we was being evicted and we had no home for our children.

 When I explained to DSS it was a false report they said I was lying and asked me where I was going to move to. I told DSS again it was a lie and I handed them another copy of a court order that was against them and asked them to leave my property. DSS still harrassed my family for several weeks until they went to the courts and got an ex-parte order for removal based on the statement that we was being evicted ( yes I do have the actual affidavit dss submitted to the courts).

 Our children was removed from our home and then DSS really did do what they wanted. This was in 2003 and no matter what we did DSS still was always right and the judge still always ruled in DSS's favor. No matter how many laws DSS broke or how many rights they violated DSS was still always right. I can prove with FACTS and DOCUMENTS that DSS did infact break the law, violated our rights, descriminated against my wife, and did not follow proper procedures under the laws of South Carolina.

 Does any of this matter ?? No .. Our rights was terminated in 2005 for nothing more then bogus reasons and eventhough we still live in the same home till this day, one reason for termination was that we could not provide shelter.. Yes DSS did not need to prove anything to the courts, all they had to do was say it..

 Now ofcourse there is alot more to this story and yes I can prove every single claim I make with documented facts. My wife and I both supported, loved, and cared for our children but yet we still loose our children due to a corrupt system that is allowed to do as they please. We do not drink, we do not do drugs, we do not abuse children, so anybody that has this idea in their head is dead wrong.

 Since our children was stolen and forced to live apart they have been hospitalized, attacked, abused, and sick due to foster parents that cant take care of children properly and due to the fact DSS does not care what happens to your children.

 I challenge Dr. Phil, Opera, or any other person in the media to reveal the "TRUTH" of what really happens to our nations children and families. I will personally supply every peice of my case file ( which I do have from dss) to Dr. Phil or anybody else that wishes to review it. In these documents there are treatment plans submitted to the courts that my wife "will admit she cant take care of her children due to her condition" ( my wife is disabled).. The judge accpeted this eventhough DSS cant prove the statement and DSS under law cant force you to make a statement agsinst your will. There is such a thing as the 5th amendment which does state DSS (or anybody else) can not dictate to you.

 So I will say it again I challenge Dr. Phil to reveal the truth of what really happens. I dare anyone in the media to reveal the truth for that matter, I wonder does anyone really have the gutts to show the real truth ??

 Just helping children wont cure the problem, the more children you help or the more that they get adopted the more DSS will take. The fact is it all boils down to money for DSS.. They have job security because they make sure to take more and more children..

 Come on do you people honestly think that millions of parents abuse their chidlren ??

 So Dr. Phil you want to help, let me see you take on the truth and reveal it, let me see you help us honest parents get our children home where they will be taken care of and loved.. Are you willing Dr. Phil ??

 James 


James,

Unfortunatley you speak the truth about the dark side of government intrusion into the lives of honest people who love their familes but have fallen on hard times. This has been going on for a long time in the United States. My Native American ancestors children were pulled from their homes with Mother and Father intact , taken to boarding schools-- stripped of their language-heritage-hair-clothing and life in the name of government intrusion in something that they created for their own political gain. In small town American government , you have people who have to account for their "job" as a social worker-etc. and they do that by playing on your hardship and removing your children into their custody. There is a place for foster care and there is a place for a "natural" family to get a hand up and not have their own offspring taken from them in the name of politics......wonder how many attorneys hands will have to be greased before you get your kids back? There is still too much bigotry- social racism and unfairness in this world today--- even in a "free society"....... Creators Blessing, Singing eagle

 
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April 16, 2006, 5:32 am PDT

2 sides to every story

Quote From: jamesstein

  Its all great and well what Dr Phil and his family and others are trying to do and hey my hats off to them all. Problem is most only will tell part of the truth or dont know what the real truth is.

 We do live in a society that has been broken and corrupt, we live in a society that claims our children must be protected and our children are our future but yet what our society really does is hurt these children and care more about money then anything. When there is a price tag on a child then this is a very sad world we live in.

 Now I am not saying everybody is like this as I know some people (very few) have a good heart and do try to do the right thing. Before making a judgement on my statements and post please read the entire post.

 For a few facts that most people dont know because Social Services hides these facts from the public.

 Fact: There is over 1 Million children in fostercare
 Fact: There are over 8,000 false reports made daily
 Fact: Social Services national budget is in excess of $285 BILLION
 Fact: 80% of children in foster care dont even belong there

 These are just a few facts that are the truth and not some made up numbers. Now lets get down to the real truth of what really goes on in our system.

 Social services is under no obligation to prove anything to the courts and what they say to the courts becomes the truth. No Evidence and No Facts need to be given to the courts by social services. Social Services can get an ex-parte based only on a statement from the social worker, it dont matter if they can prove what they say or not. Social Services can say and do as they please in a court of law also, they can descriminate, they can extend court, they can withold information, they can even break court orders and still social services will still win in court.

 How do I know these facts ? Because I am a victim of this corrupt government that has "stole" my children for nothing more then a false report. Now before you say I was probably a bad parent, read the truth and facts below...

 My landlord (I rent the property only but own my home) reported my wife and I to DSS for failure to pay rent and said we was being evicted.  My landlord made 4 reports as a matter of fact, and in every report his story was changed and did not match the story he told before ( Yes I do have the real reports directly from DSS).  Not once did DSS question this and not once did DSS check with the magistrate or the police department to see if what my landlord reported was true or not. Yes DSS did not investige at all, they just took the false report and ran with it to the judge.

 Now at this same time I already had a judgement against DSS for trying this same thing in 1999 and yes DSS lost in court and was ordered not to return to our home. DSS just ignored this court order and came to our home anyways and claimed we was being evicted and we had no home for our children.

 When I explained to DSS it was a false report they said I was lying and asked me where I was going to move to. I told DSS again it was a lie and I handed them another copy of a court order that was against them and asked them to leave my property. DSS still harrassed my family for several weeks until they went to the courts and got an ex-parte order for removal based on the statement that we was being evicted ( yes I do have the actual affidavit dss submitted to the courts).

 Our children was removed from our home and then DSS really did do what they wanted. This was in 2003 and no matter what we did DSS still was always right and the judge still always ruled in DSS's favor. No matter how many laws DSS broke or how many rights they violated DSS was still always right. I can prove with FACTS and DOCUMENTS that DSS did infact break the law, violated our rights, descriminated against my wife, and did not follow proper procedures under the laws of South Carolina.

 Does any of this matter ?? No .. Our rights was terminated in 2005 for nothing more then bogus reasons and eventhough we still live in the same home till this day, one reason for termination was that we could not provide shelter.. Yes DSS did not need to prove anything to the courts, all they had to do was say it..

 Now ofcourse there is alot more to this story and yes I can prove every single claim I make with documented facts. My wife and I both supported, loved, and cared for our children but yet we still loose our children due to a corrupt system that is allowed to do as they please. We do not drink, we do not do drugs, we do not abuse children, so anybody that has this idea in their head is dead wrong.

 Since our children was stolen and forced to live apart they have been hospitalized, attacked, abused, and sick due to foster parents that cant take care of children properly and due to the fact DSS does not care what happens to your children.

 I challenge Dr. Phil, Opera, or any other person in the media to reveal the "TRUTH" of what really happens to our nations children and families. I will personally supply every peice of my case file ( which I do have from dss) to Dr. Phil or anybody else that wishes to review it. In these documents there are treatment plans submitted to the courts that my wife "will admit she cant take care of her children due to her condition" ( my wife is disabled).. The judge accpeted this eventhough DSS cant prove the statement and DSS under law cant force you to make a statement agsinst your will. There is such a thing as the 5th amendment which does state DSS (or anybody else) can not dictate to you.

 So I will say it again I challenge Dr. Phil to reveal the truth of what really happens. I dare anyone in the media to reveal the truth for that matter, I wonder does anyone really have the gutts to show the real truth ??

 Just helping children wont cure the problem, the more children you help or the more that they get adopted the more DSS will take. The fact is it all boils down to money for DSS.. They have job security because they make sure to take more and more children..

 Come on do you people honestly think that millions of parents abuse their chidlren ??

 So Dr. Phil you want to help, let me see you take on the truth and reveal it, let me see you help us honest parents get our children home where they will be taken care of and loved.. Are you willing Dr. Phil ??

 James 


do i honestly think that millions of parents abuse their children? the answer to that is YES! i believe there is another side to your story. in over 8 yrs as a foster parent i can truly say that there has only been one child in my home that shouldn't have been in the system. and yes, i informed the caseworker exactly how i felt. this child was almost 17 and didnt like her dad's new wife. she asked to be in foster care. she was just a bit spoiled and was making her dad pay for his choice to remarry. this child was placed with her grandmother when she left my home. BUT, these cases are few.

in one of your statements you are saying basically that we foster parents have no history and no clue but yet we make all the decisions. how wrong you are. we are the ones who set in on all the meetings with the biological parents, caseworkers, therapists, etc... we listen to the children in therapy when they are trying to work through the issues that have been forced upon them, take them to the doctor because of their health issues ( herpes in an 8 yr old, malnutrition, failure to thrive ,etc...)  and we have power??!? that's ridiculous! it is a happy day when these kids get to go home to there bio families. and 99% of the time we have no contact with them after they leave us even tho we have been an important part of their lives.

i by no means are saying that the foster care system is perfect. there are some foster parents out there who shouldn't be in the position of taking care of these children, but the majority are good people just trying to help.

 


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