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April 21, 2006, 1:10 am PDT

What exactly is....

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This is a perfect example of man hating sexism. Lets consider adding one key point to women's slogan regards abortion: 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! " 

In an age where women have MANY means to void legal parenthood, POST coitally, it is nothing more and nothing less than man hating sexism to DENY men any such legal rights. 

Lets remember that abortion ISN'T a natural thing, that Legal Abandon Laws ( In 40+ states now ) 

AREN'T natural things, and so on.  

Either men should get legal post coital choices or women should have such post-coital choices 

as men get right now: NONE. 

Anything else is pure misandrous sexism. Ptui. 

Oh, one more point to the sow who posted this sexism: Men do the lion's share of the work that keeps society running. When women are ready to do *as much and as well*, then maybe equal 

rights at work might be tolerated. Hows you like that ? 

Agreed (And you read my last post wrong that you disagreed with.  I agreed with the woman and said the choices are one sided favoring the woman- My computer's been funky.  I replied but I don't think it worked). 

  

  

What exactly is the Legal Abandon Laws?  (I never heard of it). 

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:20 am PDT

Someone's slightly sensitive

Quote From: lieven

This is a perfect example of man hating sexism. Lets consider adding one key point to women's slogan regards abortion: 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! " 

In an age where women have MANY means to void legal parenthood, POST coitally, it is nothing more and nothing less than man hating sexism to DENY men any such legal rights. 

Lets remember that abortion ISN'T a natural thing, that Legal Abandon Laws ( In 40+ states now ) 

AREN'T natural things, and so on.  

Either men should get legal post coital choices or women should have such post-coital choices 

as men get right now: NONE. 

Anything else is pure misandrous sexism. Ptui. 

Oh, one more point to the sow who posted this sexism: Men do the lion's share of the work that keeps society running. When women are ready to do *as much and as well*, then maybe equal 

rights at work might be tolerated. Hows you like that ? 

I have to tell you, I became highly motivated to register for the Dr. Phil message board after I read your hilarious post. I haven't heard a person (besides maybe in jest) use the expression "man hating sexism" since the last time I watched a political report or movie from or depicting the 1970's. Maybe those were your glory days...  

   

I have to say that there could be and probably will be in the future, a VERY limited number of cases, where a woman commits reproductive fraud (this requires premeditation, meaning a woman would have to have a plan - "I'm going to entice this man, who is under the impression that I cannot become pregnat, to have sex with me, unprotected, and I am aware that there is a good possibility, that I will become pregnant.") In those cases, as difficult as they would be to prove, I agree that it is then a woman's responsibility to be the sole financial (and otherwise) provider for that child.  

   

The VAST majority of cases of unplanned pregnancy result because of miscommunication (or simply not communicating), or misuse of contraceptives. Does it seem just a little ridiculous to you to imagine a scenario: two people, in the heat of the moment, passionately looking at one another and the man says, "Seriously, I don't want a kid. Look me in the eye and tell me you won't get pregnant." Or better yet, maybe pull out a waiver and have the other party sign on the dotted line (which by the way would be your best legal protection).  

   

So, many of the people that have been putting up posts on this message board are exactly correct. If you don't want the concern of fatherhood in the back of your mind (which for the record, is a NATURAL consequence of the sex act), then refrain from having sex. Or if this is as unappealing to you as it is to me, then don't have sex unless you know that your partner is being totally honest with you.  

   

Although, unless you didn't mean much of what you said and were just writing it to get a rise out of people, my guess would be that you probably don't attract many worthwhile prospective mates. I found your post so humorous because you sound like Will Ferell in "Anchorman". "I'm not a BABY. I am a MAN. I am a man who invented the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower with metal and brawn." And he stands there in his hideous suit, his chest hair begging to be set free. And everyone laughs, because the caveman mentality went out a couple of decades ago.  

   

That said, as for your last comment, it doesn't require a thoughtful response, because it isn't a thoughtful, or even legitimate point. It's ignorant. But it did give me and my friends something to joke about all day. Thanks!  

   

   

 
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April 21, 2006, 7:58 am PDT

Sexism? Your just an idiot!

Quote From: lieven

This is a perfect example of man hating sexism. Lets consider adding one key point to women's slogan regards abortion: 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! " 

In an age where women have MANY means to void legal parenthood, POST coitally, it is nothing more and nothing less than man hating sexism to DENY men any such legal rights. 

Lets remember that abortion ISN'T a natural thing, that Legal Abandon Laws ( In 40+ states now ) 

AREN'T natural things, and so on.  

Either men should get legal post coital choices or women should have such post-coital choices 

as men get right now: NONE. 

Anything else is pure misandrous sexism. Ptui. 

Oh, one more point to the sow who posted this sexism: Men do the lion's share of the work that keeps society running. When women are ready to do *as much and as well*, then maybe equal 

rights at work might be tolerated. Hows you like that ? 

lieven,  

  

You said that "men do the lion's share of the work that keeps society running". Well, there would be no society if women didn't do the lion's share of the work that creates society to begin with! 

  

  

 
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April 21, 2006, 3:27 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Quote From: lieven

This is a perfect example of man hating sexism. Lets consider adding one key point to women's slogan regards abortion: 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! " 

In an age where women have MANY means to void legal parenthood, POST coitally, it is nothing more and nothing less than man hating sexism to DENY men any such legal rights. 

Lets remember that abortion ISN'T a natural thing, that Legal Abandon Laws ( In 40+ states now ) 

AREN'T natural things, and so on.  

Either men should get legal post coital choices or women should have such post-coital choices 

as men get right now: NONE. 

Anything else is pure misandrous sexism. Ptui. 

Oh, one more point to the sow who posted this sexism: Men do the lion's share of the work that keeps society running. When women are ready to do *as much and as well*, then maybe equal 

rights at work might be tolerated. Hows you like that ? 

 Your " Oh, one more point" shows just how ignorant you are.  You were doing well until you needed to slam somebody.  Your just as immature as Dr. Phil's guest
 
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April 26, 2006, 1:09 pm PDT

HEY WOMAN HATER!!

Quote From: lieven

This is a perfect example of man hating sexism. Lets consider adding one key point to women's slogan regards abortion: 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! " 

In an age where women have MANY means to void legal parenthood, POST coitally, it is nothing more and nothing less than man hating sexism to DENY men any such legal rights. 

Lets remember that abortion ISN'T a natural thing, that Legal Abandon Laws ( In 40+ states now ) 

AREN'T natural things, and so on.  

Either men should get legal post coital choices or women should have such post-coital choices 

as men get right now: NONE. 

Anything else is pure misandrous sexism. Ptui. 

Oh, one more point to the sow who posted this sexism: Men do the lion's share of the work that keeps society running. When women are ready to do *as much and as well*, then maybe equal 

rights at work might be tolerated. Hows you like that ? 

HIS PENIS...HIS SPERM...HIS ACTIONS ..*HIS RESPONSIBILITY*  

HER VAGINA..HER EGG....HER ACTION....*HER RESPONSIBILITY*  

= THEIR RESPONSIBILITY   

   

CHILDREN ARE GIFTS AND THEY SHOULD NEVER COME WITH PRICE TAGS!!  

BUT I BELIEVE THAT MAYBE THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE  

IF YOU ARE NOT MARRIED AND OR OF CONSENTING AGE ......WE START CHARGING A FINE FOR EACH BABY THAT BOTH SEX PARTNER HAVE . OR IN ORDER KEEP THE CHILDREN YOU HAVE TO QUALIFY AS A MARRIED COUPLE WE ENOUGH OF A INCOME TO SUPPORT THE FAMILY.  

I BET EVER BODY  WOULD START TAKING ACTION AND WEAR PROTECTION. BECAUSE IF WE LET MAN OR WOMAN OPT OUT OF CHILD SUPPORT MORE PEOPLE WILL END UP ON WELFARE AND TAXES MONEY THAT YOU AND I PAY, WILL GO UP AND UP AND UP. I BELIEVE SOMETHING MUST BE DONE SOON BUT WERE IT IS EQUAL TO BOTH!   

 
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April 28, 2006, 7:42 pm PDT

you are setting women's rights BACK!

Quote From: lieven

This is a perfect example of man hating sexism. Lets consider adding one key point to women's slogan regards abortion: 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! " 

In an age where women have MANY means to void legal parenthood, POST coitally, it is nothing more and nothing less than man hating sexism to DENY men any such legal rights. 

Lets remember that abortion ISN'T a natural thing, that Legal Abandon Laws ( In 40+ states now ) 

AREN'T natural things, and so on.  

Either men should get legal post coital choices or women should have such post-coital choices 

as men get right now: NONE. 

Anything else is pure misandrous sexism. Ptui. 

Oh, one more point to the sow who posted this sexism: Men do the lion's share of the work that keeps society running. When women are ready to do *as much and as well*, then maybe equal 

rights at work might be tolerated. Hows you like that ? 

Women "don't do as much or as well"?  Who are you and have you not paid attention to the plight of woman for the past CENTURY!?!? Women did not CHOSE to be unequal in the work force, women did not CHOSE to not be allowed to vote along side men for almost 200 years and women certainly did not CHOSE to be forced for decades to be barefoot and pregnant making cookies while men "do the loin's share of work that keep society running". Women can however CHOSE whether or not to bring a child into the world and I am proud to be a women in a day and age where that is possible. Men get all the other choices in the world so why do they need to cry about this? Be a REAL MAN and step up after you have dropped trow and allow your baby (whether you wanted it or not) to benefit from the loin's of all your "manly" hard work that's supposedly keeping the world going round....

and to you, poster, I would rather you keep your old fashioned, submissive ideas to yourself, or at least keep them in the kitchen with your casserole.
 
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July 6, 2006, 4:25 pm PDT

Baby Wars

Quote From: lieven

This is a perfect example of man hating sexism. Lets consider adding one key point to women's slogan regards abortion: 

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility* ! " 

In an age where women have MANY means to void legal parenthood, POST coitally, it is nothing more and nothing less than man hating sexism to DENY men any such legal rights. 

Lets remember that abortion ISN'T a natural thing, that Legal Abandon Laws ( In 40+ states now ) 

AREN'T natural things, and so on.  

Either men should get legal post coital choices or women should have such post-coital choices 

as men get right now: NONE. 

Anything else is pure misandrous sexism. Ptui. 

Oh, one more point to the sow who posted this sexism: Men do the lion's share of the work that keeps society running. When women are ready to do *as much and as well*, then maybe equal 

rights at work might be tolerated. Hows you like that ? 

06/07/06 Men and women are not equal but they are equally important. The young man who has gone to law to try and legalise his right to be a dead beat dad is deluded and the men who appeared with him to help him articulate his weakness are transparent. A child needs to be supported by both parents and it is not about five hundred dollars a month. The role of women has been denegrated since time began. Scientifically men are no longer needed to procreate in theory and no doubt we are not long away from the first cloned human being. It may be a safer world without them but it won't be as interesting. The little girl looks just like her father but hopefully will not be as gutless.
 


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