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April 20, 2006, 7:01 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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I think the current system works most of the time. But this case that Dr Phil has on his show is really out there. And I think this man should be free of child support. He never wanted a child and made that clear to this woman. This case is very easy to research on the internet.

It's complicated, I agree. But this woman does not deserve child support and she should have known that she wouldn't recieve support.

That is the crux of the matter. Women who trick men, and I admit it's not common but it's not unheard of,  into having baby's should realize they run the risk of thier child not having a father.

Woman need to step up and take responibility for thier bodies...COMPLETELY.

Morally, I'm right there with you. I think it's sad that women will deliberately get pregnant to "get" a man.....they do not seem to think enough of themselves to believe they could meet a man who would WANT to have a child with them and marry them.  

   

I also think it's just as, if not more, prevalent for men and boys to be completely irresponsible about birth control. I remember in college guys bragging how they wouldn't wear condoms, and advising each other how to pressure a girl into having an abortion.   

   

I think women and girls need to take responsibility for their bodies, and men and boys need to take responsibility for their "seeds". I don't know the details of this particular story.....but I'm going to teach my boys that they need to take responsibility for themselves, no matter what some girl tells them. Boys need to know girls will lie (or make mistakes) just as boys will lie and make mistakes.  

 
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April 20, 2006, 7:04 pm PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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I think the current system works most of the time. But this case that Dr Phil has on his show is really out there. And I think this man should be free of child support. He never wanted a child and made that clear to this woman. This case is very easy to research on the internet.

It's complicated, I agree. But this woman does not deserve child support and she should have known that she wouldn't recieve support.

That is the crux of the matter. Women who trick men, and I admit it's not common but it's not unheard of,  into having baby's should realize they run the risk of thier child not having a father.

Woman need to step up and take responibility for thier bodies...COMPLETELY.

Morally, I'm right there with you. I think it's sad that women will deliberately get pregnant to "get" a man.....they do not seem to think enough of themselves to believe they could meet a man who would WANT to have a child with them and marry them.  

   

I also think it's just as, if not more, prevalent for men and boys to be completely irresponsible about birth control. I remember in college guys bragging how they wouldn't wear condoms, and advising each other how to pressure a girl into having an abortion.   

   

I think women and girls need to take responsibility for their bodies, and men and boys need to take responsibility for their "seeds". I don't know the details of this particular story.....but I'm going to teach my boys that they need to take responsibility for themselves, no matter what some girl tells them. Boys need to know girls will lie (or make mistakes) just as boys will lie and make mistakes.  

 
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April 21, 2006, 1:29 am PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

Quote From: purplepain

I think the current system works most of the time. But this case that Dr Phil has on his show is really out there. And I think this man should be free of child support. He never wanted a child and made that clear to this woman. This case is very easy to research on the internet.

It's complicated, I agree. But this woman does not deserve child support and she should have known that she wouldn't recieve support.

That is the crux of the matter. Women who trick men, and I admit it's not common but it's not unheard of,  into having baby's should realize they run the risk of thier child not having a father.

Woman need to step up and take responibility for thier bodies...COMPLETELY.
the woman is not getting child support her child is and like it or not he is a father and should provide for her.  If a man does not want to be a father he should never ever  leave that choice to the woman.  Things happen, many woman we all know or have heard of  have gone for years without getting pregnaunt and been told that they will not . But low and behold  a miricle. And  the child and the mother should not be punished just because he is to cheap and selfish to  pay up for his lack of good sense.  After all  no one drives around  looking for an accident  but if it does  happen they want to be repaid for the  damage that is done. And he needs to grow up  and grow a pair and maybe  stop being such a slut to be out there giveing away his life juices  if he does not want to be a father.
 
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April 21, 2006, 4:21 am PDT

04/21 Baby Wars

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I think the current system works most of the time. But this case that Dr Phil has on his show is really out there. And I think this man should be free of child support. He never wanted a child and made that clear to this woman. This case is very easy to research on the internet.

It's complicated, I agree. But this woman does not deserve child support and she should have known that she wouldn't recieve support.

That is the crux of the matter. Women who trick men, and I admit it's not common but it's not unheard of,  into having baby's should realize they run the risk of thier child not having a father.

Woman need to step up and take responibility for thier bodies...COMPLETELY.

I don't understand what you mean when you say that "this woman does not deserve child support".  What about the baby, does she deserve child support?   

  

I have not researched this case on the internet as you have, but I had the understanding that the mother was told that she could not have children.  Does this surprise pregnancy label her child undeserving of the support of the father?  If so, how do we decide which children are deserving and which are not?   

  

How many men and boys do you think that have unprotected sex, out of wedlock and in an uncommitted relationship, want the babies that are created from that act?  Should we leave them free of responsibility because they are under the guise of , "I don't want to be a father".  I feel confident that a very large percentage of men who pay child support fall into this category.  Also, what about women who decide after giving birth that they don't want to be mothers, wouldn't this open the door for irresponsible behavior on their part as well?  It seems to me that this is very dangerouse territory.   

  

Also, I am very curious about the parents of this man who was on the show, the grandparents of  baby Elizabeth.  Are they turning  their backs on her as well?  How could they possibly be proud of their son when he is very publicly casting aside his baby daughter?  I can't imagine how this is going to affect Elizabeth later in life.   

 


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