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April 21, 2006, 2:31 pm PDT
 Quote From: bpsigma I'm not trying to sound like i'm all for the dead beat dads, because I see such men as pathetic. But I kinda see where the boy is coming from. Young teen girls, for some reason have a strong so called "need" to have a child. and sometimes they will do and say anything to get that. That even goes for some adult women. I'm not sure what went on in the room with those two young people, but I do bleive she did say that she couldn't have children. When a teenage boy is in a room with a naked girl and a hard penis and the absolute assurance the he's gona get some, their thinking diminishes, and will believe what she says. I can understand this because I was placed in a simular situation. When I was seventeen, a girlfriend I had just started going steady with. we were sexually active. I was a verry cautious kid. I used protection all the time. One day she confided in me and said that she was incapable of getting pregnate because she was molessted as a child. And I believed her. She knew that I was afraid of beeing a father at that time. And had no inttention of having a child. One day when we were about to have sex she didn't want to use a condom. I figured since she cant get pregnate, why not. one month later. She tells me she is pregnate. and I'm in the very situation I didn't want to be in. Did I make a mistake? Yes. And was I tricked? Yes. Don't worry I stepped up to the plate to take care of my buisiness, but I was also forced into that situation.
At the end of all this, there is nothing we as men can do about it. regardless of the situation in which conception happend. Many women do this. I'm not saying all. But many. and after its done. we have absolutely no coices in what to do. and the women get all the choices.. And the men pay the child support. I don't think its fair that people can just say since you din't use protection, You just have to deal with it. We should have choices in what should happend only in the condition we were trapped.. The young lady admited that she told him these things. He should have a choice if he wants to be in the child's life or not. How he could denie his child knowing its in his reach, I don't know. Thats the only thing Crazy to me. But he should have that constitutional right. She made him believe that she couldn't have children. Said she was on birth control. For sure hes gona take the comdom off. He was a kid. Kids are Kids. Immature, kids. Hormones temporarily destroys a kids mind, for a few minutes. The boy thought he was taking precautions, by actually talking with the girl. Regargless of how Nieve he was, he doesn't deserve to be striped of all choices to be made.
On my final note. The boy does need to man up and take care of this child. that is the right thing to do. My argument is only, in this particular situation he should be able to choose if he is going to do the right thing. dont believe what you are hearing and wear a condom anyway. Or maybe you should not do the deed at all. |
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April 21, 2006, 2:37 pm PDT
Quote From: bpsigma I'm not trying to sound like i'm all for the dead beat dads, because I see such men as pathetic. But I kinda see where the boy is coming from. Young teen girls, for some reason have a strong so called "need" to have a child. and sometimes they will do and say anything to get that. That even goes for some adult women. I'm not sure what went on in the room with those two young people, but I do bleive she did say that she couldn't have children. When a teenage boy is in a room with a naked girl and a hard penis and the absolute assurance the he's gona get some, their thinking diminishes, and will believe what she says. I can understand this because I was placed in a simular situation. When I was seventeen, a girlfriend I had just started going steady with. we were sexually active. I was a verry cautious kid. I used protection all the time. One day she confided in me and said that she was incapable of getting pregnate because she was molessted as a child. And I believed her. She knew that I was afraid of beeing a father at that time. And had no inttention of having a child. One day when we were about to have sex she didn't want to use a condom. I figured since she cant get pregnate, why not. one month later. She tells me she is pregnate. and I'm in the very situation I didn't want to be in. Did I make a mistake? Yes. And was I tricked? Yes. Don't worry I stepped up to the plate to take care of my buisiness, but I was also forced into that situation.
At the end of all this, there is nothing we as men can do about it. regardless of the situation in which conception happend. Many women do this. I'm not saying all. But many. and after its done. we have absolutely no coices in what to do. and the women get all the choices.. And the men pay the child support. I don't think its fair that people can just say since you din't use protection, You just have to deal with it. We should have choices in what should happend only in the condition we were trapped.. The young lady admited that she told him these things. He should have a choice if he wants to be in the child's life or not. How he could denie his child knowing its in his reach, I don't know. Thats the only thing Crazy to me. But he should have that constitutional right. She made him believe that she couldn't have children. Said she was on birth control. For sure hes gona take the comdom off. He was a kid. Kids are Kids. Immature, kids. Hormones temporarily destroys a kids mind, for a few minutes. The boy thought he was taking precautions, by actually talking with the girl. Regargless of how Nieve he was, he doesn't deserve to be striped of all choices to be made.
On my final note. The boy does need to man up and take care of this child. that is the right thing to do. My argument is only, in this particular situation he should be able to choose if he is going to do the right thing. You said it yourself, you choose not to wear the condom. If you were that afraid of pregnancy or what not you could of been more adamant about wearing the condom. What would wearing one hurt? I guess you have the rest of your life to think about it huh! You wear your seat belt when you get in a car because you don't want to get hurt if you get in an accident, right? Same thing, you mine as well wear a condom during sex if you don't want to get pregnant. Common sense!!!! |
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April 21, 2006, 3:00 pm PDT
Quote From: bpsigma I'm not trying to sound like i'm all for the dead beat dads, because I see such men as pathetic. But I kinda see where the boy is coming from. Young teen girls, for some reason have a strong so called "need" to have a child. and sometimes they will do and say anything to get that. That even goes for some adult women. I'm not sure what went on in the room with those two young people, but I do bleive she did say that she couldn't have children. When a teenage boy is in a room with a naked girl and a hard penis and the absolute assurance the he's gona get some, their thinking diminishes, and will believe what she says. I can understand this because I was placed in a simular situation. When I was seventeen, a girlfriend I had just started going steady with. we were sexually active. I was a verry cautious kid. I used protection all the time. One day she confided in me and said that she was incapable of getting pregnate because she was molessted as a child. And I believed her. She knew that I was afraid of beeing a father at that time. And had no inttention of having a child. One day when we were about to have sex she didn't want to use a condom. I figured since she cant get pregnate, why not. one month later. She tells me she is pregnate. and I'm in the very situation I didn't want to be in. Did I make a mistake? Yes. And was I tricked? Yes. Don't worry I stepped up to the plate to take care of my buisiness, but I was also forced into that situation.
At the end of all this, there is nothing we as men can do about it. regardless of the situation in which conception happend. Many women do this. I'm not saying all. But many. and after its done. we have absolutely no coices in what to do. and the women get all the choices.. And the men pay the child support. I don't think its fair that people can just say since you din't use protection, You just have to deal with it. We should have choices in what should happend only in the condition we were trapped.. The young lady admited that she told him these things. He should have a choice if he wants to be in the child's life or not. How he could denie his child knowing its in his reach, I don't know. Thats the only thing Crazy to me. But he should have that constitutional right. She made him believe that she couldn't have children. Said she was on birth control. For sure hes gona take the comdom off. He was a kid. Kids are Kids. Immature, kids. Hormones temporarily destroys a kids mind, for a few minutes. The boy thought he was taking precautions, by actually talking with the girl. Regargless of how Nieve he was, he doesn't deserve to be striped of all choices to be made.
On my final note. The boy does need to man up and take care of this child. that is the right thing to do. My argument is only, in this particular situation he should be able to choose if he is going to do the right thing. You are speaking as a man with values, that he should be a man like you were made to be a man at an early age, all on his own. The problem in today's society (I guess some parents aren't doing as good of a job as they use to of raising children with values) which is fairly obvious with this boy, is that people seem to be lacking in that department. Laws are needed to keep society functioning or people would do as they please, such as not taking care of their own child. Just like there are laws to help prevent parents from abusing their children there apparently need to be laws to tell someone how to be a man and step up and take care of the child their sperm brought on to this earth. It is the basic needs in life that this boy has become obligated to, to help feed and clothe this child (which is maybe what 500 dollars a month will do). He's not even providing a third of the finances this child will need let alone the emotinal needs a child has. I feel so sad for this child when she is older and finds out that her own father wanted to "divorce" himself from her. What horrible self image problems she will probably have because this imature boy played at being a man. If she did, which no one but she knows "trick" him that was really wrong of her as a human to do that, but we don't know for sure anything. However, we do know there is a child involved now and that comes first before rights and wrongs. Quite simply he should of protected his own interests before a child became a priority and thought with his brain and wrapped it up.
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April 21, 2006, 7:17 pm PDT
Quote From: bpsigma I'm not trying to sound like i'm all for the dead beat dads, because I see such men as pathetic. But I kinda see where the boy is coming from. Young teen girls, for some reason have a strong so called "need" to have a child. and sometimes they will do and say anything to get that. That even goes for some adult women. I'm not sure what went on in the room with those two young people, but I do bleive she did say that she couldn't have children. When a teenage boy is in a room with a naked girl and a hard penis and the absolute assurance the he's gona get some, their thinking diminishes, and will believe what she says. I can understand this because I was placed in a simular situation. When I was seventeen, a girlfriend I had just started going steady with. we were sexually active. I was a verry cautious kid. I used protection all the time. One day she confided in me and said that she was incapable of getting pregnate because she was molessted as a child. And I believed her. She knew that I was afraid of beeing a father at that time. And had no inttention of having a child. One day when we were about to have sex she didn't want to use a condom. I figured since she cant get pregnate, why not. one month later. She tells me she is pregnate. and I'm in the very situation I didn't want to be in. Did I make a mistake? Yes. And was I tricked? Yes. Don't worry I stepped up to the plate to take care of my buisiness, but I was also forced into that situation.
At the end of all this, there is nothing we as men can do about it. regardless of the situation in which conception happend. Many women do this. I'm not saying all. But many. and after its done. we have absolutely no coices in what to do. and the women get all the choices.. And the men pay the child support. I don't think its fair that people can just say since you din't use protection, You just have to deal with it. We should have choices in what should happend only in the condition we were trapped.. The young lady admited that she told him these things. He should have a choice if he wants to be in the child's life or not. How he could denie his child knowing its in his reach, I don't know. Thats the only thing Crazy to me. But he should have that constitutional right. She made him believe that she couldn't have children. Said she was on birth control. For sure hes gona take the comdom off. He was a kid. Kids are Kids. Immature, kids. Hormones temporarily destroys a kids mind, for a few minutes. The boy thought he was taking precautions, by actually talking with the girl. Regargless of how Nieve he was, he doesn't deserve to be striped of all choices to be made.
On my final note. The boy does need to man up and take care of this child. that is the right thing to do. My argument is only, in this particular situation he should be able to choose if he is going to do the right thing. Did she really trick you, or was she fooled herself? When you are young and having sex and have no idea what you are doing, you listen to your friends who know not what they are talking about. Was I tricked by the boy that told me I could not get pregnant my first time and I still ended up pregnant? Not tricked...just young, naive and kind of dumb |
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