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April 25, 2006, 7:17 am PDT

Sounds like your son needs counseling

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I have a moocher that I divorced years ago. But not before my son picked up the bad habit. My new husband and I have tried everything to help my son. But he just doesn't move to get motivated. With the job market the way it is here, it makes it even worse! I am finding out now that while I was working to provide for my children, my Ex was abusing my three children. And I just recently found out how my son got burned as a child. Not at all how my Ex said it happened! I am very upset with all of this. Part of me says KICK HIM OUT! But a part of me feels it's the wrong thing to do because of his inability to function outside with others. He lacks social grace, self esteem, and confidence. My husband even wrote in to the show but Andrew wasn't picked to be on. Now I'm back to square one. A part of me wants to run and not put this on my husband. The other part is going in circles. It's easy for some to judge and say toss um out! Until you walk in our shoes, they will never know what it is like. Each and every one of us has our cross to bear and each situation is different. Maybe what I have is a co-dependent moocher? I don't know...any input out here would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe y'all could get your son to a counselor.  It sounds like he has some issues that may be inhibiting his ability to get out on his own.  Perhaps a method like "the only thing we are going to ask you to do in exchange for living here is that you see a therapist."  Or something like that.  I don't know really.  I can tell you that depression and a lack of confidence can really make it hard to even want to try for something.  That might be what is going on here.  Good luck and God bless.
 
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April 28, 2006, 3:53 pm PDT

If you could do it over?

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I have a moocher that I divorced years ago. But not before my son picked up the bad habit. My new husband and I have tried everything to help my son. But he just doesn't move to get motivated. With the job market the way it is here, it makes it even worse! I am finding out now that while I was working to provide for my children, my Ex was abusing my three children. And I just recently found out how my son got burned as a child. Not at all how my Ex said it happened! I am very upset with all of this. Part of me says KICK HIM OUT! But a part of me feels it's the wrong thing to do because of his inability to function outside with others. He lacks social grace, self esteem, and confidence. My husband even wrote in to the show but Andrew wasn't picked to be on. Now I'm back to square one. A part of me wants to run and not put this on my husband. The other part is going in circles. It's easy for some to judge and say toss um out! Until you walk in our shoes, they will never know what it is like. Each and every one of us has our cross to bear and each situation is different. Maybe what I have is a co-dependent moocher? I don't know...any input out here would be greatly appreciated.
I think we have similar situations, however my son is only 13...but I see so much of his father's values about money and possessions in him, it's scary.  If you could go back, what would you do differently in your relationship with your child to help him be independent now?
 
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April 28, 2006, 7:14 pm PDT

04/28 Dr. Phil's Mooch Squad

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I have a moocher that I divorced years ago. But not before my son picked up the bad habit. My new husband and I have tried everything to help my son. But he just doesn't move to get motivated. With the job market the way it is here, it makes it even worse! I am finding out now that while I was working to provide for my children, my Ex was abusing my three children. And I just recently found out how my son got burned as a child. Not at all how my Ex said it happened! I am very upset with all of this. Part of me says KICK HIM OUT! But a part of me feels it's the wrong thing to do because of his inability to function outside with others. He lacks social grace, self esteem, and confidence. My husband even wrote in to the show but Andrew wasn't picked to be on. Now I'm back to square one. A part of me wants to run and not put this on my husband. The other part is going in circles. It's easy for some to judge and say toss um out! Until you walk in our shoes, they will never know what it is like. Each and every one of us has our cross to bear and each situation is different. Maybe what I have is a co-dependent moocher? I don't know...any input out here would be greatly appreciated.

My first husband was a moocher, too.  It took me a long time after our divorce to pay off the bills.  I was apparently liable because we were married at the time the expenses happened.  Blech!!  I hadn't thought about our son being influenced by him, but maybe he was.  My ex blames me for all of our child's problems (and they are a lot; he is in prison for car theft and drug possession).  I have blamed myself for years for that, but I really don't know what I could have done besides taking him to all of the doctors, counselors, and psychologists I took him to.  Anyway, sorry for rambling here. 

  

You have my sympathy and I hope you can work things out.  I do not know what to say except maybe talk to your son about getting a job.  How old is he?  Old enough that he should be on his own? 

 
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May 4, 2006, 1:27 pm PDT

04/28 Dr. Phil's Mooch Squad

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I have a moocher that I divorced years ago. But not before my son picked up the bad habit. My new husband and I have tried everything to help my son. But he just doesn't move to get motivated. With the job market the way it is here, it makes it even worse! I am finding out now that while I was working to provide for my children, my Ex was abusing my three children. And I just recently found out how my son got burned as a child. Not at all how my Ex said it happened! I am very upset with all of this. Part of me says KICK HIM OUT! But a part of me feels it's the wrong thing to do because of his inability to function outside with others. He lacks social grace, self esteem, and confidence. My husband even wrote in to the show but Andrew wasn't picked to be on. Now I'm back to square one. A part of me wants to run and not put this on my husband. The other part is going in circles. It's easy for some to judge and say toss um out! Until you walk in our shoes, they will never know what it is like. Each and every one of us has our cross to bear and each situation is different. Maybe what I have is a co-dependent moocher? I don't know...any input out here would be greatly appreciated.

I know how you feel. I have 2 sons who are at times successful at guilting me into doing things for them that I shouldn’t. I’m learning :~) 

  

 

I was abused as a kid and it has affected my life in negative ways but it didn’t turn me into a moocher. The generation I grew up in couldn’t wait to get out and be on our own. Even if I didn’t want to get a job and move out my parents would not have let me free load off of them. I bet yours wouldn’t have either.

   

 

  

I don’t think that childhood trauma is an excuse and I don’t think that because my kids dad and I are divorced means that they have an excuse for being lazy or entitled to anything beyond my loving affection and moral support. They think so but I don’t! If I choose to help financially then they should be grateful and responsible with the help. If they choose to be demanding and ungrateful then they should bark up a different tree! I just don’t think that we’re doing our kids any favors when we allow them to use the guilt card. What happened, happened….the question is; what are we going to do with the rest of our lives.

  

 

  

I think we know the right thing to do but for some reason we don’t do it! I'm talking to myself here as much as to you. 

 

God's Blessings ;~) 

Linda

  

 

  

  

  

  

  

 


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