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April 27, 2006, 6:31 am PDT
 Quote From: daylily42 It's amazing to me that the show hasn't even aired yet, but this board has already erupted into a witch hunt of the morbidly obese. I'm so glad that those of you out there who have a pathological need to feel superior to someone can get this out of your systems. Cheer up, folks: At least there's still someone you can still openly hate.
If this were a show about an anorexic woman on the brink of death, few if any of you would be saying that it is her own fault, or why can't she just think clearly about her situation and her health.
I just hope that those of you who are on a mission to air their superiority to this woman and those in a similarly unhappy predicament will consider one point: You have to eat. You have to nourish your body. It's impossible to go "cold turkey" on food except through a fasting diet, and those have been widely discredited. Yes, gastric bypass surgery is on option, but it is a radical choice. And unfortunately, without the behavioral commitment, even the benefits of gastric bypass surgery can be undone.
Every person alive has made unwise choices. Every person alive has done things contrary to common sense, good health, self-preservation. This woman, whatever her story, has suffered for her choices. She also seems to have blurred the line and inflicted those choices on her loved ones. So please get over your self-righteous need to be superior to her and consider her as an individual who needs help in undoing the choices she has made. Personally, I believe extreme obesity is a form of self-mutiliation, a desire to annihilate the self and anesthetize feelings with food. I also believe this dynamic is very complex and can only be reversed with much commitment and care. It's possible, but it's extremely difficult.
And those of you who are fortunate enough not to have this problem should show some understanding and compassion, rather than using this message board as a place to air your hatred. A voice of reason! Thank you so much--you took the words right out of my mouth!!! |
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April 27, 2006, 8:09 am PDT
Quote From: daylily42 It's amazing to me that the show hasn't even aired yet, but this board has already erupted into a witch hunt of the morbidly obese. I'm so glad that those of you out there who have a pathological need to feel superior to someone can get this out of your systems. Cheer up, folks: At least there's still someone you can still openly hate.
If this were a show about an anorexic woman on the brink of death, few if any of you would be saying that it is her own fault, or why can't she just think clearly about her situation and her health.
I just hope that those of you who are on a mission to air their superiority to this woman and those in a similarly unhappy predicament will consider one point: You have to eat. You have to nourish your body. It's impossible to go "cold turkey" on food except through a fasting diet, and those have been widely discredited. Yes, gastric bypass surgery is on option, but it is a radical choice. And unfortunately, without the behavioral commitment, even the benefits of gastric bypass surgery can be undone.
Every person alive has made unwise choices. Every person alive has done things contrary to common sense, good health, self-preservation. This woman, whatever her story, has suffered for her choices. She also seems to have blurred the line and inflicted those choices on her loved ones. So please get over your self-righteous need to be superior to her and consider her as an individual who needs help in undoing the choices she has made. Personally, I believe extreme obesity is a form of self-mutiliation, a desire to annihilate the self and anesthetize feelings with food. I also believe this dynamic is very complex and can only be reversed with much commitment and care. It's possible, but it's extremely difficult.
And those of you who are fortunate enough not to have this problem should show some understanding and compassion, rather than using this message board as a place to air your hatred.
As I was reading all of the comments, I was sad to see so many judgemental people. They seem to be attacking real human beings maybe because they don't know what they don't know and have formed strong intolerances from what they don't know.
I also believe that extreme obesity is a form of self mutilation and an attempt to keep people away. I've read that over 70% of morbidly obese people have been sexually abused in childhood. Habits form from these early years and become ingrained as a belief of who a person is. It's a cycle formed of an event and the beliefs that we form from that event and and that we do what we "learn" because this becomes the true belief.
Also, please don't forget that extreme over or under eating may stem from severe depression (chemical or situational). Whatever the reason for the obesity, the person may need some extensive therapy and support to learn new beliefs and habits.
Don't give up on people....any of them. |
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April 27, 2006, 9:36 am PDT
Quote From: daylily42 It's amazing to me that the show hasn't even aired yet, but this board has already erupted into a witch hunt of the morbidly obese. I'm so glad that those of you out there who have a pathological need to feel superior to someone can get this out of your systems. Cheer up, folks: At least there's still someone you can still openly hate.
If this were a show about an anorexic woman on the brink of death, few if any of you would be saying that it is her own fault, or why can't she just think clearly about her situation and her health.
I just hope that those of you who are on a mission to air their superiority to this woman and those in a similarly unhappy predicament will consider one point: You have to eat. You have to nourish your body. It's impossible to go "cold turkey" on food except through a fasting diet, and those have been widely discredited. Yes, gastric bypass surgery is on option, but it is a radical choice. And unfortunately, without the behavioral commitment, even the benefits of gastric bypass surgery can be undone.
Every person alive has made unwise choices. Every person alive has done things contrary to common sense, good health, self-preservation. This woman, whatever her story, has suffered for her choices. She also seems to have blurred the line and inflicted those choices on her loved ones. So please get over your self-righteous need to be superior to her and consider her as an individual who needs help in undoing the choices she has made. Personally, I believe extreme obesity is a form of self-mutiliation, a desire to annihilate the self and anesthetize feelings with food. I also believe this dynamic is very complex and can only be reversed with much commitment and care. It's possible, but it's extremely difficult.
And those of you who are fortunate enough not to have this problem should show some understanding and compassion, rather than using this message board as a place to air your hatred. I certainly hope you aren't talking about me. I am not on a witch hunt for obese people. I AM OBESE! I just want people to get real about what they are doing to themselves instead of searching the globe for excuses. I agree with you completely about extreme obesity being a form of self mutilation. Even "normal" obesity is. I gained most of my weight during a deep depression that I would cut myself during. I would also eat too much food and it felt good to know I was hurting myself, making myself ugly. I hated myself and eating was a great way to hurt myself. I just don't want people to get all comfy cozy blaming their fat on genetics or disease (some people DO have a legit disease that makes it hard to LOSE weight, I'm not talking about them) and sit back and keep eating burgers. That is a huge lie they are telling themselves and people around here are supporting that. If you weren't talking about me, sorry for getting defensive. |
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April 27, 2006, 3:22 pm PDT
Quote From: daylily42 It's amazing to me that the show hasn't even aired yet, but this board has already erupted into a witch hunt of the morbidly obese. I'm so glad that those of you out there who have a pathological need to feel superior to someone can get this out of your systems. Cheer up, folks: At least there's still someone you can still openly hate.
If this were a show about an anorexic woman on the brink of death, few if any of you would be saying that it is her own fault, or why can't she just think clearly about her situation and her health.
I just hope that those of you who are on a mission to air their superiority to this woman and those in a similarly unhappy predicament will consider one point: You have to eat. You have to nourish your body. It's impossible to go "cold turkey" on food except through a fasting diet, and those have been widely discredited. Yes, gastric bypass surgery is on option, but it is a radical choice. And unfortunately, without the behavioral commitment, even the benefits of gastric bypass surgery can be undone.
Every person alive has made unwise choices. Every person alive has done things contrary to common sense, good health, self-preservation. This woman, whatever her story, has suffered for her choices. She also seems to have blurred the line and inflicted those choices on her loved ones. So please get over your self-righteous need to be superior to her and consider her as an individual who needs help in undoing the choices she has made. Personally, I believe extreme obesity is a form of self-mutiliation, a desire to annihilate the self and anesthetize feelings with food. I also believe this dynamic is very complex and can only be reversed with much commitment and care. It's possible, but it's extremely difficult.
And those of you who are fortunate enough not to have this problem should show some understanding and compassion, rather than using this message board as a place to air your hatred. I have to disagree on your comment about anorexics, you are basically contradicting yourself, these people would still say the same about an anorexia. I was anorexic at one time and it was the most awful thing I have ever had to go through, people looked down on me just as quick as they would someone overweight. I was told by all sizes of people how gross I was, nothing but bones and my face sunk in........everyone forced food in my mouth and I hated them for it all I heard was eat this eat that, go to mcdonalds and get a big mac, I didn't want anything to do with food it made me sick. EVERYONE SAID IT WAS MY FAULT AND I WAS OBSESSED WITH MY WEIGHT---Well guess what they were wrong I was anorexic because of my parents divorce, I didn't care about my weight, my way with dealing with stress was to reject food...... I starved myself when I was stressed, that was 12 years ago, and now that i am 34 I still have bad days when I'm stressed and I don't eat, but I have control now and I've seen the big picture(70 lbs and half dead in a hospital) and learned to take control of my body which is what anyone needs big or small. Regardless of your situation you need help but most of all YOU HAVE TO HAVE WILL AND STRENGTH. WITH THAT REALLY MY POINT WAS TO GET ACROSS THAT JUST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE PUTTING OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE DOWN DOES NOT MEAN THEY ARE SKINNY. I'VE SEEN SOMEONE THAT WAS ABOUT 275LBS MAKE FUN OF SOMEONE THAT WAS ABOUT 50 LBS HEAVIER THAN THEM. YOUR SIZE DOESN'T MAKE JUDGEMENT YOUR THOUGHTS DO. |
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