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jaider
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May 7, 2006, 6:26 pm PDT

brainwashing

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 I'm waiting to watch this episode with a knot in my stomach.  One of the daughters answering "I don't know" when asked if she wants to live with her mother is so typical of these religious groups.  They paint a picture that they're special, they're better than the rest of the world.  The rest of the world is full of bad people, dirty people, people with no morals.  They did a good job at brainwashing these girls. Trailers are often misleading, it  could be I'm interepreting it completely wrong.  (I hope I am)!  It just strikes a chord with me, because I remember being trapped into that thinking when I was a kid.  Looking at it now, from the outside in, I find it deeply disturbing.   I'm so out of it now, that sometimes when I talk to family members I'm shocked at how deeply entwined in this way of thinking they still are.

I challenge the idea that these girls are being brainwashed.  Your use of the word brainwashing communicates your disapproval of the influence of a religious group that you think to be illegitimate. I agree that religious groups can have a heavy influence over their members but the use of the word brainwashing suggest that powerful means of manipulation are being used to control. The brethren group the oldest girl joined happens to believe in what is called believers baptism. What that means is that one does not become baptized and become a member of the church until they reach the age of accountability and can make the choice freely on their own. Often times, even though the children have been raised in this environment all of their life, they never become members. Not a very good job of brainwashing . Are the children brainwashed by their parents and religion? No. Are they influenced? Yes. 
 
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May 10, 2006, 9:50 am PDT

05/10 Finding Allene and Mollie, Part 2

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 I'm waiting to watch this episode with a knot in my stomach.  One of the daughters answering "I don't know" when asked if she wants to live with her mother is so typical of these religious groups.  They paint a picture that they're special, they're better than the rest of the world.  The rest of the world is full of bad people, dirty people, people with no morals.  They did a good job at brainwashing these girls. Trailers are often misleading, it  could be I'm interepreting it completely wrong.  (I hope I am)!  It just strikes a chord with me, because I remember being trapped into that thinking when I was a kid.  Looking at it now, from the outside in, I find it deeply disturbing.   I'm so out of it now, that sometimes when I talk to family members I'm shocked at how deeply entwined in this way of thinking they still are.
 Well actually from my expereince the world  IS full of bad people, but there are good people.  I am of the idea that young children should only associate with people who are good for them; people who respect them as individuals, who have their best interests at heart, etc...

But as children get older they need to at least be AWARE of the dangers in the world. It doesn't mean they have to experience them, but they need to know how to make good decisions and protect themselves. 

 In the Father's case I think he just wanted to protect his baby girls from the outside world so he chose to live in a community where he felt they would be most safe.  The mother on the other hand believes in allowing the girls to experience the "normal" world.

 If the girls chose to live in a PLAIN community for the rest of their lives this wouldn't be an issue, but if they ever decided to live either a plain lifestyle in the "normal" world or give it up all together they would be in danger because they have not had the life expereinces, or haven't been able to make the observations average teenagers in the US have made about "normal" society.

There is nothing wrong with the plain lifestyle if that is a person's choice, or thier parent's joint choice (as long as they are SAFE), but when one parent is not in agreement over that lifestyle (or the person decides tehy don't want to be involved in it anymore)than there are bound to be problems.
 
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