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May 9, 2006, 8:46 am PDT

Cult Does Not Equal Non-Christian

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I am terrified by the word "CULT" While the Amish, Old-Order Mennonite and various PLAIN groups might seem weird they are often more "Christ-Like" in their beliefs than most Main stream Christian Church bodies.  

  

As a Conservative Mennonite myself. I have studied many of the World Religions and have a Graduate degree in Religious Education. While I have not seen this show Yet. I tend to feel that we need to listen first and then evaluate things with the guidlines given in Scripture. A cult would inply that these people do not put their faith in Christ.  WHile there are many cults that say that they are Christian. The key to seperate a cult from a non cult is the basis for their salvation. If Christ is the only way then according to the Christian tradition not a cult if Christ is not the only way then Cult.  

  

The Amish and other Plain peoples do not belive that their lifestyle is EARNING their way to heaven. But it is a way to seperate from the world as it tells us in scripture to "be in the world but not of the WOrld." 

  

The way to separate a cult from a religion is NOT belief in Christ.  There are many real religions that do not hold that Christ is the way.  Just because you don't subscribe to their beliefs they aren't necessarily cults.    

  

The hallmark of a cult is control - if free choice and free will are removed from the adherents, either by physical force/restraint or by overwhelming emotional/mental pressure (i.e. brainwashing), then you have a cult.    

  

I don't for a moment believe that the conservative Christian groups like the Mennonites or Amish are cults.  But neither is Buddhism.    

 
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May 9, 2006, 5:39 pm PDT

Religious Order vrs Cult

Quote From: bluetrue

I am terrified by the word "CULT" While the Amish, Old-Order Mennonite and various PLAIN groups might seem weird they are often more "Christ-Like" in their beliefs than most Main stream Christian Church bodies.  

  

As a Conservative Mennonite myself. I have studied many of the World Religions and have a Graduate degree in Religious Education. While I have not seen this show Yet. I tend to feel that we need to listen first and then evaluate things with the guidlines given in Scripture. A cult would inply that these people do not put their faith in Christ.  WHile there are many cults that say that they are Christian. The key to seperate a cult from a non cult is the basis for their salvation. If Christ is the only way then according to the Christian tradition not a cult if Christ is not the only way then Cult.  

  

The Amish and other Plain peoples do not belive that their lifestyle is EARNING their way to heaven. But it is a way to seperate from the world as it tells us in scripture to "be in the world but not of the WOrld." 

  

If this is a cult then so are every religious group.  I remember Jim Jones and what he had and that was a cult. The first part showed these girls and they looked healthy and somewhat healthy. No they were not their mothers size or even showed a propensity for the problem. When are we going to get  to the real reason for this broadcast, it will bring viewers to the  show  that is what Dr Phil relies on for sales of advertising. Yes the two girls have been indoctrinated into the community. Is this not what we call raising our kids? Yes this guy is 5 beers short of a sixpak.  Yet is he doing this to harm or protect? Is he doing it to get financial reward from the mother or the government? There are mothers who keep their children by accusing abuse. This is not to say it does not happen just that not every man is an abusisive pedophiliac.  When are we as a society going to recognise a man as a parent?  We have stay at home dads yet if they were to take the kids it would raise eyebrows and warrent  an investigation.   

 
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February 29, 2008, 6:54 pm PST

YOU ARE WRONG

Quote From: bluetrue

I am terrified by the word "CULT" While the Amish, Old-Order Mennonite and various PLAIN groups might seem weird they are often more "Christ-Like" in their beliefs than most Main stream Christian Church bodies.  

  

As a Conservative Mennonite myself. I have studied many of the World Religions and have a Graduate degree in Religious Education. While I have not seen this show Yet. I tend to feel that we need to listen first and then evaluate things with the guidlines given in Scripture. A cult would inply that these people do not put their faith in Christ.  WHile there are many cults that say that they are Christian. The key to seperate a cult from a non cult is the basis for their salvation. If Christ is the only way then according to the Christian tradition not a cult if Christ is not the only way then Cult.  

  

The Amish and other Plain peoples do not belive that their lifestyle is EARNING their way to heaven. But it is a way to seperate from the world as it tells us in scripture to "be in the world but not of the WOrld." 

  

I AM EX AMISH, AND IT HAS ALL THE MAKINGS OF A CULT. ALSO THEY SAY THEY WORSHIP GOD BUT THEY WORSHIP THEIR WAY OF LIFE MORE. THE ONES THAT TRY TO LEAD A GODLY LIFE ARE USUALLY LOOKED DOWN ON. THEY ALSO DO THINK THEIR WAY OF LIFE GETS THEM TO HEAVEN.
 


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