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May 18, 2006, 12:08 pm PDT

Good question

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I wonder how some of you would feel if your husband said he was going to quit his job so that he could spend more time with the children?  What if he came home and said, "I got fired today.  Sorry, but all that stuff I was supposed to do just didn't come easily to me so I just didn't try to do it.  I would have had to get organized and you know that's just not my thing.  Anyhoo, being with you and the kids is what really counts, right?" 

  

I know Greg had no business talking to Amy the way he did but I feel his frustration.  It's good that Dr. Phil gave him a taste of housework, but I agree with spchek that he was doing lots more than a typical day's work.  I also think he deserves credit for going along with the game and obeying the three ladies -- if he was as bad as some of you think he would have told them where to go or walked out.  

  

 All I wish is that Amy had been expected to take a good look at her part in all this and that Dr. Phil had told her it was time to, "Step up to the plate and demand more of herself." 

My husband I are going through this right now. He has a terrific job with a great salary and benefits, but he is seriously missing out on time with our boys. We are exploring other options. It may mean a smaller house, I may go back to teaching once the boys hit school age so we can have greater balance. I have no right to insist he stay in a lucrative job if he is unhappy.  

   

I went back and re watched the tape to make sure I wasn't losing my mind. At no point did Amy complain about cooking, cleaning, etc. She complained about the way Greg treated her and how he expected to be waited on. In all the video footage of their home, the only time there was a mess was AFTER  Amy had left for her adventure. The ladies showed up the next day, and that's when you see some clutter. Exactly what did you see that was so deficient? Why are you so unwilling to read Rebecca's posts? She was THERE, for heaven's sake!  

   

Amy was expected to take a good look at her part in this. Dr. Phil was pretty blunt in telling her that you train people how to treat you. She continued to serve him dinner on a tray even though he belittled her.  

   

I know some women who are truly MASTER HOMEMAKERS. A man like Greg could not be married to a woman like that. Women who are really on the ball in their homes are usually the Queens of their Castle and would NEVER put up with that treatment.  

 

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May 18, 2006, 12:30 pm PDT

05/16 The Divorce Experiment

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I wonder how some of you would feel if your husband said he was going to quit his job so that he could spend more time with the children?  What if he came home and said, "I got fired today.  Sorry, but all that stuff I was supposed to do just didn't come easily to me so I just didn't try to do it.  I would have had to get organized and you know that's just not my thing.  Anyhoo, being with you and the kids is what really counts, right?" 

  

I know Greg had no business talking to Amy the way he did but I feel his frustration.  It's good that Dr. Phil gave him a taste of housework, but I agree with spchek that he was doing lots more than a typical day's work.  I also think he deserves credit for going along with the game and obeying the three ladies -- if he was as bad as some of you think he would have told them where to go or walked out.  

  

 All I wish is that Amy had been expected to take a good look at her part in all this and that Dr. Phil had told her it was time to, "Step up to the plate and demand more of herself." 

If my husband had the choice? Yeah, he would stay home and be with our daughter. He hates that he's away from her 50, 60 and sometimes 70 hours a week. He hates it and he wishes he could be with her all the time.

But if I can do a good enough job at the house, enough to keep it neat and sanitary and spend lots of time with my daughter, how is that bad? MY JOB IS MY DAUGHTER! THAT IS MY JOB and if I sewed and cooked and all that bull so much that my daughter was neglected then I would be not doing "all that stuff I was supposed to do"....

Who said she or me or anyone else isn't trying? Are you seriously kinda slow, I mean that...are you? I'm not trying to be insulting here because you can't help it if you aren't very smart.

But you don't seem to understand that Amy DID do house work, she worked hard ALL DAY LONG and SO DO I. So I don't get where you are getting the idea that people aren't trying.

But I feel sorry for you. My priorities are my kid and her development. When she's 20 and starting her own life do you think she's going to remember the house work I didn't do so well or do you think she's going to remember her and I finding letters on signs outside or counting tulips in the yard or swimming in the baby pool?

I think she'll remember the other stuff....

Those are MY priorities and my husband not only supports me but agrees with me completely and wouldn't have it any other way Fluffy.

Again Fluffy, how is she NOT stepping up to the plate? You have someone right here in this thread telling you that their house is clean, someone who was THERE...

His frustration is uncalled for because his wife is doing the work, he just likes to demean her while she's doing it.

Seriously, why aren't you getting that part? This isn't about housework, the housework was being done...get that! GET THAT!
 

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May 18, 2006, 12:31 pm PDT

05/16 The Divorce Experiment

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I wonder how some of you would feel if your husband said he was going to quit his job so that he could spend more time with the children?  What if he came home and said, "I got fired today.  Sorry, but all that stuff I was supposed to do just didn't come easily to me so I just didn't try to do it.  I would have had to get organized and you know that's just not my thing.  Anyhoo, being with you and the kids is what really counts, right?" 

  

I know Greg had no business talking to Amy the way he did but I feel his frustration.  It's good that Dr. Phil gave him a taste of housework, but I agree with spchek that he was doing lots more than a typical day's work.  I also think he deserves credit for going along with the game and obeying the three ladies -- if he was as bad as some of you think he would have told them where to go or walked out.  

  

 All I wish is that Amy had been expected to take a good look at her part in all this and that Dr. Phil had told her it was time to, "Step up to the plate and demand more of herself." 

Fluffy, just answer this ONE QUESTION...

When did anyone, even her husband, say she wasn't doing the house work? When? When When When When???????
 
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May 19, 2006, 1:16 pm PDT

ummm what part did you miss?

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I wonder how some of you would feel if your husband said he was going to quit his job so that he could spend more time with the children?  What if he came home and said, "I got fired today.  Sorry, but all that stuff I was supposed to do just didn't come easily to me so I just didn't try to do it.  I would have had to get organized and you know that's just not my thing.  Anyhoo, being with you and the kids is what really counts, right?" 

  

I know Greg had no business talking to Amy the way he did but I feel his frustration.  It's good that Dr. Phil gave him a taste of housework, but I agree with spchek that he was doing lots more than a typical day's work.  I also think he deserves credit for going along with the game and obeying the three ladies -- if he was as bad as some of you think he would have told them where to go or walked out.  

  

 All I wish is that Amy had been expected to take a good look at her part in all this and that Dr. Phil had told her it was time to, "Step up to the plate and demand more of herself." 

that show didn't have anything to dowith housework.  The house was clean when the other ladies showed up and messed it up.  You feel Greg's frustration?  Amy was "keeping house" and Greg is NOT her boss but a partner.  It's not his place to go around the house to make certain she's doing her job "properly" and then correct her.  She's not his kid and having a partner that's nit picking at you all the time or pointing out all that's wrong would ERROD you self esteem and as is happening with this couple eat at their marriage.  It doesn't matter how well Amy does with organizing the home, cleaning etc.  and she's already tried to "step up and demand more of herself"  but you see there is NO PLEASING someone who feels superior and who is emotionally & verbally abusive.  I'd said to someone else and I'll say again if I had a husband who was following me around correcting me or checking me I would stop doing anything and he'd get to do it ALL by himself.  I mean he's so much better he could do it easy right? 
 


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