Replies to '05/22 Predator Sting'

Most of your post was lost on me now because I do not  bother to read messages that in all upper case letters.  It's diffult reading and online all upper case letters are considered yelling and poor manners.  As for what I did get from your post I'll say that part of the problem is that we(here is the US) take so much time to try to "figure these monters out" and we try to rehabilatate them.  Some illnesses are just not rehabilatatable & IMO pedophela is one of them.  People such as this started long before the internet and the pornagraphy available here.  To me there is a HUGE difference between adults enjoying a naughty video that's somewhat instructional or adding a bit of spice and people watching children.  I alos enjoy sex and feel there's nothing wrong with adults in engaging in this too, but kids aren't in a place to give consent to such a thing even when the 15 yr. old *thinks* they are.  They are kids and for an adult to look to them is wrong.  There are several women now who've used young men, gotten preggers & now are married to them.  1 woman married her victim who fathered her child when he WAS 15 because then they cannot prosecute her apparently if they marry.  I'm sorry but this is just wrong and there's something wrong with the way these people are thinking and pornagraphy had nothing to do with that.   

Again I understand the idea that if we are able to figure out what makes them tick we could start to turn these wacko's around but if we could do that they would have to come for treatment just like an AA member or a smoker who's finally ready to quit.  It's true that many abusers were abused as children, but not all abused children grow up to abuse and that is in a sexual way or just physical abuse.  In trying to "figure them out" we give them the reasons for what they're doing  "I was abused," "It's like an addiction of smoking or drinking" and of course there's "I was exposed to so much porn on the computer I became desensitized".  They're adults and they know what they're doing is wrong and  they know they're victims are innocent children.  Frankly I think a chip is not telling enough when it comes to these monsters.  They should have tattos put on their forheads so we can all see right off what we're dealing with.   

Prior to Megans law & long before we all had the internet in our living rooms I had a neighbor that I was NOT comfortable with.  There were things I recognized about his personality around kids that he was a bit TO interested in kids (never their parents just the kids).  I'd a friend who was a nanny to a prosecuter in another county & so I had her relay all the things this person did that I noticed and he said "Tell your friend that she's describing the classic personality traits of a pedophile and that she's to be VERY careful of her kids around him.  It isn't if he will find a victim but when.".  It was here that this neighbor started to try to undermind me with my kids, which they do to distance the kid from parent so they can befriend the kid & make them feel they can't come to you or trust you (the parent).  I had to explain to my kids what this man was doing & "why" & I then gave them the lisence to be more than rude to this man.  Sadly I'd taught mine to respect adults & that's setting them up to be a victim so I had to undo this.  I told this to several neighbors in an attempt to alert them to watch their kids & there was only 1 that said "You just cannot go calling someone a pedophile without cause."  I told her "I'm not calling him anything.  I relayed what I've have witnessed with my own eyes of this man around OUR kids and it was the prosecuter for crimes against children that told me this traits are classic of a pedophile.  My warning to you is not to dirty his name but so you'll watch your kids closer around him.".  People do not want to think the nice guy next door could be a wacko like this but they can and ARE.  I don't care why they are the way they are I just want everyone to be able to recognize them when they see them!  It is not us that would be taking away their rights but rather they're giving away their rights when they are targeting innocent children. 

There are already many studies that have been done on pedophila to figure out what psychiatric treatment or counselling to deal with their illnesses is best and the pedophiles themselve have said after differnt treatments & counseling that they do not believe they could EVER be trusted and that the urge to reoffend is still there and just as strong as ever.  Tattooed and left on a island isn't the PC answer but it's certainly a safer answer than "psychiatric treatment or counselling to deal with their illnesses".  Of course living in a civilized country we house them, try to treat them more humainly than they've EVER treated their victims and of course unlike the pedophile to his victim we have empathy for them.  I consider myself to be a rational, loving and forgiving person, but when it comes to a pedophile all those qualities I just mentioned are just gone because the victims are just so innocent.   

Most of your post was lost on me now because I do not  bother to read messages that in all upper case letters.  It's diffult reading and online all upper case letters are considered yelling and poor manners.  As for what I did get from your post I'll say that part of the problem is that we(here is the US) take so much time to try to "figure these monters out" and we try to rehabilatate them.  Some illnesses are just not rehabilatatable & IMO pedophela is one of them.  People such as this started long before the internet and the pornagraphy available here.  To me there is a HUGE difference between adults enjoying a naughty video that's somewhat instructional or adding a bit of spice and people watching children.  I alos enjoy sex and feel there's nothing wrong with adults in engaging in this too, but kids aren't in a place to give consent to such a thing even when the 15 yr. old *thinks* they are.  They are kids and for an adult to look to them is wrong.  There are several women now who've used young men, gotten preggers & now are married to them.  1 woman married her victim who fathered her child when he WAS 15 because then they cannot prosecute her apparently if they marry.  I'm sorry but this is just wrong and there's something wrong with the way these people are thinking and pornagraphy had nothing to do with that.   

Again I understand the idea that if we are able to figure out what makes them tick we could start to turn these wacko's around but if we could do that they would have to come for treatment just like an AA member or a smoker who's finally ready to quit.  It's true that many abusers were abused as children, but not all abused children grow up to abuse and that is in a sexual way or just physical abuse.  In trying to "figure them out" we give them the reasons for what they're doing  "I was abused," "It's like an addiction of smoking or drinking" and of course there's "I was exposed to so much porn on the computer I became desensitized".  They're adults and they know what they're doing is wrong and  they know they're victims are innocent children.  Frankly I think a chip is not telling enough when it comes to these monsters.  They should have tattos put on their forheads so we can all see right off what we're dealing with.   

Prior to Megans law & long before we all had the internet in our living rooms I had a neighbor that I was NOT comfortable with.  There were things I recognized about his personality around kids that he was a bit TO interested in kids (never their parents just the kids).  I'd a friend who was a nanny to a prosecuter in another county & so I had her relay all the things this person did that I noticed and he said "Tell your friend that she's describing the classic personality traits of a pedophile and that she's to be VERY careful of her kids around him.  It isn't if he will find a victim but when.".  It was here that this neighbor started to try to undermind me with my kids, which they do to distance the kid from parent so they can befriend the kid & make them feel they can't come to you or trust you (the parent).  I had to explain to my kids what this man was doing & "why" & I then gave them the lisence to be more than rude to this man.  Sadly I'd taught mine to respect adults & that's setting them up to be a victim so I had to undo this.  I told this to several neighbors in an attempt to alert them to watch their kids & there was only 1 that said "You just cannot go calling someone a pedophile without cause."  I told her "I'm not calling him anything.  I relayed what I've have witnessed with my own eyes of this man around OUR kids and it was the prosecuter for crimes against children that told me this traits are classic of a pedophile.  My warning to you is not to dirty his name but so you'll watch your kids closer around him.".  People do not want to think the nice guy next door could be a wacko like this but they can and ARE.  I don't care why they are the way they are I just want everyone to be able to recognize them when they see them!  It is not us that would be taking away their rights but rather they're giving away their rights when they are targeting innocent children. 

There are already many studies that have been done on pedophila to figure out what psychiatric treatment or counselling to deal with their illnesses is best and the pedophiles themselve have said after differnt treatments & counseling that they do not believe they could EVER be trusted and that the urge to reoffend is still there and just as strong as ever.  Tattooed and left on a island isn't the PC answer but it's certainly a safer answer than "psychiatric treatment or counselling to deal with their illnesses".  Of course living in a civilized country we house them, try to treat them more humainly than they've EVER treated their victims and of course unlike the pedophile to his victim we have empathy for them.  I consider myself to be a rational, loving and forgiving person, but when it comes to a pedophile all those qualities I just mentioned are just gone because the victims are just so innocent.