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May 25, 2006, 10:13 am PDT

*Dr. Phil Prime Time Special: Escaping Addiction, Part 2

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I admire the way Dr Phil makes people take resopnisbility, but there is a major flaw with the whole rehab system.  First off, you are treating a person for a few weeks for a problem that it took a lifetime to develop.  Next when you get out of rehab, you go back into the exact same situation you came out of.  It is easy to work the program when you are in the safe confines of the rehab, but when you are back in the real world everything changes.  The worst problem is how so many people keep telling the addicts they have an illness.  That is such a load of crap,  An illness is not somthing you choose to contract., taking that drink or whatever your drug of preference is is a CHOICE!!!!    You don't choose to get cancer, you do choose to pick up that beer and drink it.  It is all about personal responsibility.  And yes I do know what I am talking about, because every day I wake up I choose not to drink alchohol or take drugs; I also see family members who have made the choices to drink and drug.

great post,  Princess.   

  

sincerely,  watcohcbrn 

 
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May 25, 2006, 10:50 am PDT

I agree

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I admire the way Dr Phil makes people take resopnisbility, but there is a major flaw with the whole rehab system.  First off, you are treating a person for a few weeks for a problem that it took a lifetime to develop.  Next when you get out of rehab, you go back into the exact same situation you came out of.  It is easy to work the program when you are in the safe confines of the rehab, but when you are back in the real world everything changes.  The worst problem is how so many people keep telling the addicts they have an illness.  That is such a load of crap,  An illness is not somthing you choose to contract., taking that drink or whatever your drug of preference is is a CHOICE!!!!    You don't choose to get cancer, you do choose to pick up that beer and drink it.  It is all about personal responsibility.  And yes I do know what I am talking about, because every day I wake up I choose not to drink alchohol or take drugs; I also see family members who have made the choices to drink and drug.
Great Post, While I was drinking it was easy to believe that I was a victim to alcohol. That just made it easier for me to continue to drink. I went through rehab and AA and I firmly believe that sitting around rehashing my past and feeling sorry for myself would have led to relapse. It is a choice and as hard as it may seem to make the choice not to drink it is possible with support and help. I am working through my past and not using it as an excuse for poor judgement and behaviors. It's very difficult but very much worth it. What you do to your children is a choice! You are choosing to give your children an unstable home and parent! What you do and how you live will affect your children for the rest of their lives! My father did it to me and continues to. I did it to my daughter but I had the strength to stop the cycle in it's tracks and give my daughter a fighting chance at a healthy and happy childhood and future!
 
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May 25, 2006, 11:37 am PDT

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I admire the way Dr Phil makes people take resopnisbility, but there is a major flaw with the whole rehab system.  First off, you are treating a person for a few weeks for a problem that it took a lifetime to develop.  Next when you get out of rehab, you go back into the exact same situation you came out of.  It is easy to work the program when you are in the safe confines of the rehab, but when you are back in the real world everything changes.  The worst problem is how so many people keep telling the addicts they have an illness.  That is such a load of crap,  An illness is not somthing you choose to contract., taking that drink or whatever your drug of preference is is a CHOICE!!!!    You don't choose to get cancer, you do choose to pick up that beer and drink it.  It is all about personal responsibility.  And yes I do know what I am talking about, because every day I wake up I choose not to drink alchohol or take drugs; I also see family members who have made the choices to drink and drug.

First, I missed the show.  So I can't say anything about their specific situation. 

  

But I do want to comment about some of your statements, because a lot of people think this way!  Rehabs don't "cure" addicts and alcoholics.  What rehabs do is help us medically through our detox, educate us on the disease concept, and give us tools to maintain sobriety.  The battle isn't over when someone leaves rehab -- the battle has just begun!   

  

You mentioned people who go back to "the same situation".   In one sense, this may be true.  But  a big part of rehab is learning how to avoid situations that are risky, and also what to do when those cravings start to hit.  If someone chooses to ignore this, then  yes, they have made a bad choice.  But it's on them, not the rehab. 

  

Also -- and this is the biggest misconception -- the disease model does NOT give people a free pass to blame their actions on addiction!  In fact, a big part of recovery relates to taking full responsibility for all choices that have harmed others, and then making amends.   

  

The reason the disease model is important is because alcoholism isn't caused by drinking too much.  And the difference between an alcoholic and a non-alcoholic has nothing to do with how much they consume.  It has to do with what happens to them when they consume.  For an alcoholic, the body begins adapting to the alcohol from the very first sip. 

  

  

 

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May 25, 2006, 8:38 pm PDT

A Sickness

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I admire the way Dr Phil makes people take resopnisbility, but there is a major flaw with the whole rehab system.  First off, you are treating a person for a few weeks for a problem that it took a lifetime to develop.  Next when you get out of rehab, you go back into the exact same situation you came out of.  It is easy to work the program when you are in the safe confines of the rehab, but when you are back in the real world everything changes.  The worst problem is how so many people keep telling the addicts they have an illness.  That is such a load of crap,  An illness is not somthing you choose to contract., taking that drink or whatever your drug of preference is is a CHOICE!!!!    You don't choose to get cancer, you do choose to pick up that beer and drink it.  It is all about personal responsibility.  And yes I do know what I am talking about, because every day I wake up I choose not to drink alchohol or take drugs; I also see family members who have made the choices to drink and drug.
Yes this is a sickness. I am a LPN and hate to disagree with you, but it is an illness. No one who drinks that first beer or whatever drink they choose does it because they want to become an alcoholic. They usually do it because everyone else is doing it. Usually it is started at a young, impressionable age. Yes, there is a choice to take that first drink, but there is no choice as to becoming an alcoholic. I applaude you for making that choice everyday to not drink or do drugs, but there are people out there that can not make that choice without professional help. Thanks Dr. Phil for the work you are doing with this family.
 


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