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July 25, 2005, 3:24 pm PDT

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I will try to make this brief, this seemed a safe place to post - I love Dr. Phil's show and I mostly just want a sounding board to see if I am over-reacting, which is what my spouse usually thinks I'm doing. I am in my mid-forties, two teenage children, a boy and a girl, and have just married a man I dated for three years, after being divorced for four years. I knew he looked at porn but not to the extent he has since we've been married. I guess you truly never know someone until you live with them. I am a very liberal person and have nothing against sexual "enhancements" but I believe it's something that should be explored as a couple, together, and not like most men do it. We have already had discussions about it. But here's my new dilemma: the other night he was on the internet andhe asked for my help with something -and accidentally clicked on the websites he's visited. One of them was a "teen" porn one. I didn't blow up about it, just quietly asked him was he really looking at that. He tried to explain it away by saying he didn't really go on it, he was "re-directed". But he's made joking comments in the past about teenagers in school uniforms, etc., and also he seems unusually pre-occupied recently with child abductions, sexual assaults and murders on the news. Not that I don't think they aren't tragic, because they are, it's a horrible thing, but I don't bring it up while we're out to dinner somewhere, or driving down the road. He'll all of a sudden change the subject from whatever we're talking about and mention a case on the news, and say maybe "I wonder what all that guy did to that little girl", etc. - making it sound like he's disgusted but showing a morbid fascination with it, at the same time.It doesn't give me a good feeling and I know it's not part ofmost "normal" conversation discussing the news. I'm sorry this is so long for a post, I'm just wondering if I'm paranoid or if I have a legitimate concern,maybe should try going to counseling with him?? Please, any comments and input will be appreciated.

First welcome to the board. Usually this place is a lot busier than it is now but they just started this new style of message board (the board was gone for 3 weeks or so) so I don't think many have found their way back. But anyways...welcome!

 

I would be very concerned. First....if the teens he is looking at are minors....it is child porn which is illegal to make and to view. I would be paranoid too. I am not so liberal in my thinking and find that it doesn't matter if a person is liberal or more conservative......they still want some of the same things. They want security. They want to know they can trust the other person and they want to know they are loved. If my spouse was looking at teen porn.....I would definitely be angry. If he seemed to have a fasination with children being abducted and saying things like "I wonder what all that guy did to that little girl" ....I would wonder why the fascination with it.  I find that all pretty scary....pretty creepy. I am not sure what I would do....other than maybe really look into it much further. I would find out what kind of porn is being viewed. I don't like porn in a marriage at all....but to each his own. But if child porn is being viewed....I would definitely be very caution with this man....husband or not. Counseling is a good thing for many things. And I believe if you truely think the problem is as large as it sounds....I wouldn't wait.

 

Good luck and hope you find the answers.

 
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July 26, 2005, 3:35 am PDT

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I will try to make this brief, this seemed a safe place to post - I love Dr. Phil's show and I mostly just want a sounding board to see if I am over-reacting, which is what my spouse usually thinks I'm doing. I am in my mid-forties, two teenage children, a boy and a girl, and have just married a man I dated for three years, after being divorced for four years. I knew he looked at porn but not to the extent he has since we've been married. I guess you truly never know someone until you live with them. I am a very liberal person and have nothing against sexual "enhancements" but I believe it's something that should be explored as a couple, together, and not like most men do it. We have already had discussions about it. But here's my new dilemma: the other night he was on the internet andhe asked for my help with something -and accidentally clicked on the websites he's visited. One of them was a "teen" porn one. I didn't blow up about it, just quietly asked him was he really looking at that. He tried to explain it away by saying he didn't really go on it, he was "re-directed". But he's made joking comments in the past about teenagers in school uniforms, etc., and also he seems unusually pre-occupied recently with child abductions, sexual assaults and murders on the news. Not that I don't think they aren't tragic, because they are, it's a horrible thing, but I don't bring it up while we're out to dinner somewhere, or driving down the road. He'll all of a sudden change the subject from whatever we're talking about and mention a case on the news, and say maybe "I wonder what all that guy did to that little girl", etc. - making it sound like he's disgusted but showing a morbid fascination with it, at the same time.It doesn't give me a good feeling and I know it's not part ofmost "normal" conversation discussing the news. I'm sorry this is so long for a post, I'm just wondering if I'm paranoid or if I have a legitimate concern,maybe should try going to counseling with him?? Please, any comments and input will be appreciated.
The thing we tend to do is distrust that what we are thinking or feeling is inaccurate or wrong. It is true that at times our minds go in directions that are out of the normal way of thinking and your spouses reactions to the news might just be that. But the one thing I have found out is when our guts are twisting and our thoughts are working overtime, I beleive this is a natural tendancy to preserve and protect ourselves and maybe even others.His visiting teen porn web sites might just be a curiousity. After all, porn gets pretty ridiculous and repetitious after a while. Maybe he was just innocently exploring. Sex and fantasy are personal and individual and if we feel we have to try to understand everyone's fetishes we will drive ourselves insane. As a mother of two young men, you are sensitive to this even more, and rightly so. In closing my post to you, I would just like to tell you if something is bothering you, you need to address it and don't let it slip through the cracks. Keep your eyes and ears wide open because you just may be dealing with a guy that has sexual problems. It seems men have more sexual deviations whereas women are always trying to justify their emotions regarding behavior that is odd or wierd or different, at best. Good luck and remember you are a mother with two children and I am sure you are level headed. Don't let someone try to manipulate you think you don't know what you are talking about. Kimi
 
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September 9, 2005, 12:08 am PDT

How Porn Has Affected Our Relationship

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I will try to make this brief,  this seemed a safe place to post -  I love Dr. Phil's show and I mostly just want a sounding board to see if I am over-reacting,  which is what my spouse usually thinks I'm doing.  I am in my mid-forties,  two teenage children, a boy and a girl,  and have just married a man I dated for three years, after being divorced for four years.  I knew he looked at porn but not to the extent he has since we've been married.  I guess you truly never know someone until you live with them.   I am a very liberal person and have nothing against sexual "enhancements" but I believe it's something that should be explored as a couple, together, and not like most men do it.  We have already had discussions about it.  But here's my new dilemma: the other night he was on the internet and he asked for my help with something - and accidentally clicked on the websites he's visited.  One of them was a "teen" porn one.  I didn't blow up about it,  just quietly asked him was he really looking at that. He tried to explain it away by saying he didn't really go on it, he was "re-directed".   But he's made joking comments in the past about teenagers in school uniforms, etc.,  and also he seems unusually pre-occupied recently with child abductions, sexual assaults and murders on the news.  Not that I don't think they aren't tragic,  because they are,  it's a horrible thing, but I don't bring it up while we're out to dinner somewhere, or driving down the road.  He'll all of a sudden change the subject from whatever we're talking about and mention a case on the news,  and say maybe "I wonder what all that guy did to that little girl", etc. -   making it sound like he's disgusted but showing a morbid fascination with it,  at the same time.  It doesn't give me a good feeling and I know it's not part of most "normal" conversation discussing the news.   I'm sorry this is so long for a post,  I'm just wondering if I'm paranoid or if I have a legitimate concern, maybe should try going to counseling with him??   Please,  any comments and input will be appreciated.  

You are not paranoid. I discussed you message with my husband who is a retired cop. He has taken several classes in his years as a police officer on abnormal sex.  I sent him a copy of you message. He says you should be worried and to go to counseling. What really tip him off is your husband's sudden fascination with child abductions, sexual assults and murders on the news. Particularly the comment about wondering "what all that guy did to that little girl" For some people teen porn is a gateway. Kinda like marijuana is a gateway drug for harder drugs.  

I hope this helps.   

 


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