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June 3, 2006, 12:49 pm PDT

03/27 More Wifestyles, Part 3

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Hello there everyone.  Nice to see that the debate is still going on.  First, I want to say I have not been around (as if anyone cares) because I started a new job.  Very hard to start over...but it will be good in the end.  Next, Purple, it's interesting how you can pick apart my messages line by line and make your comments.  I never asked you to beg my forgiveness..why is is so important to you?  That's funny to me.  I Your feelings about WM's are very clear.  In fact, my hubby read your message dated May 1st:  

" I do understand that there are times when it's needed, but I don't think the majority of kids in daycare need to be there. I also resent the idea that a SAHM like me, who gladly sacrifices things like a nice car, a house, a yard, nice clothes and eating out to stay at home and mother my child myself, all day everyday is the same level of mother as someone who's kids are in daycare all day long. Not saying that you hold that idea and I'm not saying that is what you were saying either. I just am putting my two cents on the table.
ss to sacrifice certain things. Like I said, we don't have many material things."
  

You feel, whether you exactly say it or not, that women who use daycare really don't need to- that we are in essence living a lifestyle that we put above our kids."

False assumption. I never said anything like that.
 

  

and yes, you did mean what I thought..even he got that same impression.  Did you or did you not write this?  We are not the "same level" of Mom?  I have tried to be as diplomatic as possible on this subject but you know, I just don't think people get it.  I just get tired of hearing what more we my hubby and I) could sacrifice to keep our kids out of daycare.  Why is that the ultimate goal?  People say it a lot..."My kids have never stepped foot in a daycare".  Personally, I think balance should be the key for all families.  Some men work too much, some women need more interaction with adults, some kids need more attention from their parents and some families both single and dual incomes) could spend money more wisely.  I see single income families abusing the system or living "without" and wonder what effect that has on the family.  These same families seem to have newer cars than myself and plenty of new clothes.  I feel good knowing that my hubby and I have not ever taken a dime of welfare in any way, shape or form to support our family.  

 Our parents live far away so weekend overnighters are not really an option.  I feel good knowing my kids don't make 3 page Christmas lists but get excited to make cookies.  I feel good knowing I help my hubby provide financially and that he, in turn, helps around the house.  It's positive for kids to see that.  It's easy to see other situations whatever they may be and think how it's not like our own- better or worse.  First impressions are tough to overcome for anyone.    


  

 I'm not really in this discussion, but I was going to reply anyway.  I am a stay at home mom of three kids, 30 months, 16 months and 4 months.  My kids have not and will not step foot in a daycare.  I didn't have my children so that another person could raise them for 8-10 hours a day.  Maybe there is no research that daycare "harms" children there is research that proves that children in daycare setting have more illnesses and have more ear infections that those that don't.  My children have never had an ear infection and have never been on any medication of any kind.(Praise the Lord!)

I am not trying to knock all forms of childcare.  All I am saying is that just to put your kids in the care of strangers in order to "have a little more adult interaction" or " So you don't have to sacrifice anything" just doesn't make sense.

We are a single income family (my husband is a contractor) and we have never had help from the government or any type of welfare of any kind.  That is not only the case of two income families.  My husband does help around the house and my kids also get excited to make cookies.  I don't know what point you were trying to make there.  I have seen the daycare system abused so many times, where the parent gets off at 2:00 and leaves their kids there until 6:00 anyway or will drop them off on their day off because " they deserve a break too".  I don't think working moms  that leave their kids in daycare is a bad thing I just think that sometimes you can abuse that as easily as some abuse the government, as you say.
 

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June 4, 2006, 3:16 pm PDT

03/27 More Wifestyles, Part 3

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Hello there everyone.  Nice to see that the debate is still going on.  First, I want to say I have not been around (as if anyone cares) because I started a new job.  Very hard to start over...but it will be good in the end.  Next, Purple, it's interesting how you can pick apart my messages line by line and make your comments.  I never asked you to beg my forgiveness..why is is so important to you?  That's funny to me.  I Your feelings about WM's are very clear.  In fact, my hubby read your message dated May 1st:  

" I do understand that there are times when it's needed, but I don't think the majority of kids in daycare need to be there. I also resent the idea that a SAHM like me, who gladly sacrifices things like a nice car, a house, a yard, nice clothes and eating out to stay at home and mother my child myself, all day everyday is the same level of mother as someone who's kids are in daycare all day long. Not saying that you hold that idea and I'm not saying that is what you were saying either. I just am putting my two cents on the table.
ss to sacrifice certain things. Like I said, we don't have many material things."
  

You feel, whether you exactly say it or not, that women who use daycare really don't need to- that we are in essence living a lifestyle that we put above our kids."

False assumption. I never said anything like that.
 

  

and yes, you did mean what I thought..even he got that same impression.  Did you or did you not write this?  We are not the "same level" of Mom?  I have tried to be as diplomatic as possible on this subject but you know, I just don't think people get it.  I just get tired of hearing what more we my hubby and I) could sacrifice to keep our kids out of daycare.  Why is that the ultimate goal?  People say it a lot..."My kids have never stepped foot in a daycare".  Personally, I think balance should be the key for all families.  Some men work too much, some women need more interaction with adults, some kids need more attention from their parents and some families both single and dual incomes) could spend money more wisely.  I see single income families abusing the system or living "without" and wonder what effect that has on the family.  These same families seem to have newer cars than myself and plenty of new clothes.  I feel good knowing that my hubby and I have not ever taken a dime of welfare in any way, shape or form to support our family.  

 Our parents live far away so weekend overnighters are not really an option.  I feel good knowing my kids don't make 3 page Christmas lists but get excited to make cookies.  I feel good knowing I help my hubby provide financially and that he, in turn, helps around the house.  It's positive for kids to see that.  It's easy to see other situations whatever they may be and think how it's not like our own- better or worse.  First impressions are tough to overcome for anyone.    


  

"First impressions are tough to overcome for anyone."

Not for me. Don't pigeon hole me into you warped way of thinking. If a person makes a bad first impression and then works hard to be forgiven it shouldn't be hard to just move on and take them as you see them.

BTW...I have no idea why you are talking about welfare all of a sudden...what does that have to do with this? I have never used welfare or any government money at all.  And my family doesn't live "without" either. So I'm confused as to why you are writing this to me.
 
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June 4, 2006, 6:41 pm PDT

03/27 More Wifestyles, Part 3

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Hello there everyone.  Nice to see that the debate is still going on.  First, I want to say I have not been around (as if anyone cares) because I started a new job.  Very hard to start over...but it will be good in the end.  Next, Purple, it's interesting how you can pick apart my messages line by line and make your comments.  I never asked you to beg my forgiveness..why is is so important to you?  That's funny to me.  I Your feelings about WM's are very clear.  In fact, my hubby read your message dated May 1st:  

" I do understand that there are times when it's needed, but I don't think the majority of kids in daycare need to be there. I also resent the idea that a SAHM like me, who gladly sacrifices things like a nice car, a house, a yard, nice clothes and eating out to stay at home and mother my child myself, all day everyday is the same level of mother as someone who's kids are in daycare all day long. Not saying that you hold that idea and I'm not saying that is what you were saying either. I just am putting my two cents on the table.
ss to sacrifice certain things. Like I said, we don't have many material things."
  

You feel, whether you exactly say it or not, that women who use daycare really don't need to- that we are in essence living a lifestyle that we put above our kids."

False assumption. I never said anything like that.
 

  

and yes, you did mean what I thought..even he got that same impression.  Did you or did you not write this?  We are not the "same level" of Mom?  I have tried to be as diplomatic as possible on this subject but you know, I just don't think people get it.  I just get tired of hearing what more we my hubby and I) could sacrifice to keep our kids out of daycare.  Why is that the ultimate goal?  People say it a lot..."My kids have never stepped foot in a daycare".  Personally, I think balance should be the key for all families.  Some men work too much, some women need more interaction with adults, some kids need more attention from their parents and some families both single and dual incomes) could spend money more wisely.  I see single income families abusing the system or living "without" and wonder what effect that has on the family.  These same families seem to have newer cars than myself and plenty of new clothes.  I feel good knowing that my hubby and I have not ever taken a dime of welfare in any way, shape or form to support our family.  

 Our parents live far away so weekend overnighters are not really an option.  I feel good knowing my kids don't make 3 page Christmas lists but get excited to make cookies.  I feel good knowing I help my hubby provide financially and that he, in turn, helps around the house.  It's positive for kids to see that.  It's easy to see other situations whatever they may be and think how it's not like our own- better or worse.  First impressions are tough to overcome for anyone.    


  

Kira, I read the comment by Purple and agree it was insensitive. I also read the post the VERY NEXT DAY where she clearly apologized. I think it's time to let it go. The more you refuse to accept her apology, the more she re-explains or defends herself, the more you get offended, and so on and so on......  

  

Is there ANYTHING she could write to you that would make you feel better? You offended me with comments that I alone made the decision to be a SAHM and that my choice determines how much money my husband is obligated to make. I pointed it out, you apologized, it's over. I like you, I like Purple, I think we generally agree on principles of a healthy marriage and family, and it's time to move on. I think Judy hit the nail on the head that we all experience some degree of guilt because we can't be "perfect" parents. We become defensive and sometimes overstate our case which inadvertently offends people who have made different parenting choices.  

  

I think Purple knows her posting from over a month ago was insensitive, I am pretty certain she would take it back given the opportunity. Please, step up, give her that opportunity. Let this go.  

  

PS  Why did you leave Disney? Hope the new job works out well! 

 


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