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August 29, 2005, 9:42 pm PDT

Well, djmatt please excuse typos or if I repeated myself as a bit tired. I just didn't want to abandon you when you sound like you feel abandoned. So don't you abandon you either, please.

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Thanks for all of the replies, I just had to return to post this message.  Besides having two horrible days of driving to Atlanta and back to LaGrange to try to repair my son's car, I am very frustrated that I have spent hours and hours working on vehicles and never seem to have the correct tools, or parts.  They money just isn't there to have his car towed home.  I am so frustrated, I had to drive my piece of junk twice with the transmission knocking and jerking and grinding, not to metion it is just falling apart piece by piece.  I am surprised my car made it up there and back two days in a row.  

   

I am so tired and aggravated, why me.  I am still in pain from the neck surgery, but trying to help my son, in the pouring rain today, just to find a major engine problem with his car after numerous hours of efforts.  What a wonderful and  

happy FU%$#@G life.  I despise working on cars, especially when I can't afford to do it right.  DOES any body really give a crap.    

   

I get so sick I have to take my Neurontin, eat, and wait about an hour before my mind or body can even function.  I feel like a total reject born to suffer and lose.    I keep begging my son to do well for himself, and my two girls as well.  It's tough feeling 95 years old and I am only 45.  Why me lord. My wife doesn't even know who I am anymore, that makes two of us.  This world is so screwed up; you get sick, get behind on bills, and you are punished by paying higher interest rates. etc.  

   

My finances consist of  A house payment, a car payment for my wife, a truck in my name that my daughter is making payments on and helping me ruin my credit, 2 small credit cards, about 1200.00.  And the usual stuff, the necesssities.  I can't make it.  I just can't make it.  ANd spending two days in Atlanta working on my son's car which is broke down there, to no avail.  I AM SO FRUSTRATED.  

   

Been a while since I have been here. I think society would be satisfied to just throw us away. I believe that they look at us as weak and non-productive parts of our society as whole. I believe that they look at us as a disease, a cancer that won’t go away and we are making the rest of them look bad.  

I believe the judicial system, the legislative and executive branches of our government, along with society see us as hypochondriacs, without a cause or place in this society. I believe that the medical community see us as a burden and a waste of taxpayers money.   

I believe the corporate world sees us as a menace and if they happen to find one of us in their presence, they have shamed their company, stockholders, and burdened our peers and management.  

I feel that I am a misfit in this world and to hell with the rest of them. I have suffered enough. They us a easy prey and take advantage, and the laws of our land don’t do enough to protect us. We are the stigma of behind closed door discussions.   

The judicial system does not have a clue as to the seriousness and controlling force behind mental illnesses. They twist things to meet their needs, and don’t consider where society has failed to prevent individuals with these illnesses from losing control and committing various crimes. Here is how the process basically works;  

In this scenario one realizes that one has abnormal thinking patterns and behaviors but early on they are afraid to ask: 1. IS THIS NORMAL TO FEEL THIS WAY. 2. THEY ARE ASHAMED TO ASK ANYONE BECAUSE THEY FEEK INFERIOR.   

Eventually one realizes that their mode of thinking is not normal, and they have to decide if they are going to seek medical attention and make their families ASHAMED, or try to hide it, and hold it in as long as possible hoping they can somehow cope with it, or maybe it will just go away.  

Time passes them by and they eventually realize that this isn’t going away, it’s getting worse. And now they are so ashamed and paranoid they dare not admit a weakness to their spouse even though the spouse is already aware something is wrong; coworkers who have already started throwing eggs, poking fun and bullying the afflicted one, but one cannot defend one’s self because the condition has only gotten worse. Their work performance has decreased, they have become secluded and avoid social situations. And now they really look like a FREAK to others.  

Like myself, many are harassed, discriminated against, or even fired from their jobs.   

It’s all because no one understands.  

One finally either seeks medical treatment, which may or may not help.   

One sacrifices one’s career against their will.  

One becomes defeated and becomes a failure and thru all of this they have suffered tremendously.  

Some may respond to treatment and be fortunate enough to regain employment and be accepted once again in society.  

Others may turn to drug and alcohol abuse to try and ease the pain.  

Others may eventually become violent and abusive to family members.  

And there are the few who lose total control and take out their anger and frustrations in a very violent nature such as rape, homicides, and some may resort to killing sprees and committing suicide in the end.  

And there are those who hold it in as long as they can, and eventually the pain is too much. They sit there and cry. They have mixed emotions but realize that our society is NOT properly educated, accommodating and understanding enough to understand their problems and they see no way out but to commit suicide.  

I believe that there is a stigma even in out government, our medical communities and even religious communities relating to mental illnesses. And until someone steps up to the plate and puts together a plain and simple plan to educate our society, and to provide work environments and social environments comfortable enough for the mentally ill I believe that the crimes and suicides associated with mental illnesses will continue to escalate.   

I believe the medical community alone cannot solve this problem. It is a much greater monster than we can visualize.   

   

   

   

It’s like saying we are going to build a mega structure, a bridge 6 miles long over a river, and we are going to hire a ready mix supplier to Engineer, design, lay out, run all applicable tests for bedrock, design and supply and install all aspects of the bridge and have the notion that this is a workable plan. It takes much, much more to build a bridge that just the concrete supplier. It takes engineers, laborers, crane operators, inspectors, architects, other materials suppliers for materials such as steel, cables, electrical wiring and components. It takes many specialties and suppliers to make this structure perform as it should.  

In my opinion, it takes much more than doctors and medications to effectively combat these mental disorders.   

Uproot the weeds and they will go away. Find the source of mental illnesses, eliminate them, and live in a more peaceful and positive environment.  

WOW! I have been on some of those solve the world's problems conversations and looks like you have named quite a few VALID problems. One thing at a time though because I'll get lost. Car... Many churches have shared ministries that will give cash for things such as repairs or might have tools to share. Here's a link with more skilled people to talk to jo@samaritans.org and website www.samaritans.org.uk that answer quicker than another link I gave a poster here who said is better. Okay, my father had PTSD from the war and I'd still want him here even if it meant visiting him at the VA hospital or nursing home. When dad would have an episode it was a lot easier if he went and got help than if I got a call like when he gave a police officer a left hook thinking the policeman on a welfare check was a German soldier from WWII. That time the judge said, "What happened to your dad. He's a good man and we worked together in radiology before I became a judge." What happened...I guess life happened...and it isn't always a fairy tale.

However, I wouldn't want another dad. Nope. Only my dad. I have got dad help four times and the last time I said, "Dad I can't do this anymore. The apartment manager called me and said she's going to call the police because you are leaving cigarettes lit and so you are a danger to yourself and other residents. If the police see you this disoriented you will get a three day EOD. (Turns out sometimes from COPD and lack of oxygen from chain smoking exacerbated disorientation from high carbon dioxide in blood). Dad went tog get help on his own and from that day on had his doctor call me if doctor thought he was going into left field and I would just say dad you need help and dad would get help. I wasn't embarrassed. I LOVED my dad and your family loves you. If you think you need help, and you do sound like you do, get help. There's no shame. Sure lots of people don't understand but you don't have to join their ranks and pick yourself apart and don't stick around and insist they do and find those who do understand.

Families like when family members go get help on their own because see don't you want those you love to get help when they need help and not feel embarrased. You go get help with pride because you are SOMEBODY and it is YOU that needs to realize that. You came here because a part of you still does. There's no shame in getting help. Former Vice President Al Gore's wife, Tipper Gore, was treated for depression. Mike Wallace of 60 minutes takes Zoloft. There ARE places, like CBS, that stick by you IF you are making an effort too. Make that effort and if you think you need help don't deny yourself help over imaginings of what others think. So what? Show your children they are worth something by acting like you are. Oh, as far as medical bills sometimes business offices will write them off because are allowed to write of bills each year and, if not, send them a dollar or five dollars a month. Congress just investigated bully billing practices by hospitals and if any problems tell your congressman. Three senators, one representative and a President helped me and they will help you too. Just ask... First ask for medical help if you need it. Show your children they deserve help if they need it by getting help for yourself. hugs and prayers, SEA
 


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