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July 9, 2006, 12:12 am PDT

You're really kidding, right?

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There is a program RSA (Redirecting Sexual Agressiveness) that is offered to some cases that seem to have the potential for being productive, non-threatening citizens.  They are very strict and have a successful program.  I personally know a man who went to prison for exposing himself to children of both sexes and for fondling female children.  He is one of the most spiritual, kindest, intelligent, most sensitive people I have ever met.  He knows he has this addiction and follows strictly the principles he was taught in RSA.  He had determined never to have children or be around them and never allows himself to have destructive thoughts.  He's looking for a woman with whom he can share his life, and I think she'll be lucky to have him.   

  

I'd be curious to know if anyone else knows a former abuser who has become a blessing to society.  They're not all the same.  Every case is different, and we shouldn't be automatically afraid or disdainful of someone we discover in our neighborhood.  You really have to know exactly what the person has done. 

This person sounds like a "remake" of the New Year's Resolution!  If what he/she says is true, do you think it reasonable to believe that this very strict regimen you describe can continue for an entire lifetime --- without a single interruption?  And if he has determined to never have destructive thoughts (although totally unprovable), he could make a fortune marketing it for profit since it works so well!  

  

Calling yourself  "religious," if you are a child molestor, has even been shown on NBC's Wednesday's "Predators" weekly TV evening broadcast to be a popular way pedophiles use to describe themselves in order to deflect suspicion!  Becoming "religious" can be a convincingly huge "cover" if a molestor needs one after being convicted!  Gosh, a permanent reprieve from all pedophilic temptation from God!  What is better than that - and not unprovable by any concrete earthly means!  

  

My father was a molestor. He attended church and was a "death to gays and pedophiles" pillar of the community and national music education field.  He was a teacher. He was a controller. He was smart (I belong to Mensa). He was very well-educated, and although his advanced degrees were in music, every shelf on his bookcases was covered with psychology books and magazines that he used to reinforce his "cover."  His molestation did not end with his daughers - they also involved other children and some of his grandchildren.   

  

One of the ways pedophiles use to throw adults off their trails is to point fingers at others. "You are JUST LIKE ME --- against those MONSTER molestors!" --- and statements like, "My actions are now driven JUST LIKE YOURS - by God." --- and would you disavow your own purity, which was said to be the same as the speaker's, in order to question the "former pedophile's" statement that you were also Godly?  

  

My Master's degree is what used to be called "social psychology"  or "why people do what they do."  Are you so well groomed by this person and duped through "religion" that you believe everything you hear "in the name of God"?  Would you risk a child's physical well being and emotional safety because of this person's "NEW religious beliefs"?  In my area of study, it is well known that beliefs are the hardest --- if not impossible --- things to change.  If I told you I no longer had blue eyes because I had had a "religious rebirth" and rigorously followed the 12 Rules of Blinking,  would you check out the color of my eyes anyway?  I surely hope so!     

  

Please remember that "private images" are much different than "public images." I'll bet (if you admit it) that you know where public images are seen, groomed and cultivated, and I'll bet you also know where your private image appears!  And in church, if someone knows that he/she is to give a  "public confession" to a priest, rabbi or congregation,  you might guess that it will be groomed a bit at home (in private) before it gets to church in public!  

  

If you believe this supposed "new "blessing to society" from his words, then I'll bet you don't believe in listening to your first "gut feeling" that many researchers think was physically designed to help keep you from harm's way.  If you try to rationalize that you are now an "enlightened, God-loving, rational-thnking adult who does his/her OWN thinking," and you believe that religion can change anyone every time, you will also probably ignore the intuition with which you were born.  

  

"Because the "Book" says..." does not mean that anyone abides by ANY book from cover to cover! And saying so doesn't MAKE it so!  Retelling a lie doesn't change it to "truth" --- no matter how many times you retell it!  You can put any person in your best prayers, but know that people still "own" free will and that is why we still have prisons; murders; rapes and child molestation can and do still occur.  

  

Remember that anyone can say anything --- and it doesn't necesarily matter if it's true or not,  it only matters if it WORKS or not --- and especially if it helps keep a child molestor from going to prison again! That would be a HUGE motivation to lie!   

  

Programs may appear viable on paper and their espoused "positive results" may help keep someone out of the "hot seat" for a while, but these "SOME cases that seem to have the POTENTIAL for being productive" will NOT cut it with me because I've lived with those ideas NOT working before in person --- as a child and an adult.  

  

If the person you describe is responsible enough not to do this again, then he should have been responsible enough not to do these kinds of things in the first place. What is his motivation to now be "accountable"?  Because he needs a wife for "respectable" cover???? 

 
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July 9, 2006, 10:06 pm PDT

a blessing to society huh??!! UGH you need help

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There is a program RSA (Redirecting Sexual Agressiveness) that is offered to some cases that seem to have the potential for being productive, non-threatening citizens.  They are very strict and have a successful program.  I personally know a man who went to prison for exposing himself to children of both sexes and for fondling female children.  He is one of the most spiritual, kindest, intelligent, most sensitive people I have ever met.  He knows he has this addiction and follows strictly the principles he was taught in RSA.  He had determined never to have children or be around them and never allows himself to have destructive thoughts.  He's looking for a woman with whom he can share his life, and I think she'll be lucky to have him.   

  

I'd be curious to know if anyone else knows a former abuser who has become a blessing to society.  They're not all the same.  Every case is different, and we shouldn't be automatically afraid or disdainful of someone we discover in our neighborhood.  You really have to know exactly what the person has done. 

you need just as much help as any of them by the sounds of it...........serious mental help. really, do you hear what you are saying??? you are saying that a man who ruined several children's lives, a child molestor which is the lowest possible thing you could be, is now just the most sensitive man you have ever met and such a blessing to society?? are you serious!!!! unbelieveable...........  
 
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July 10, 2006, 6:19 am PDT

07/12 A Predator in the House?

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There is a program RSA (Redirecting Sexual Agressiveness) that is offered to some cases that seem to have the potential for being productive, non-threatening citizens.  They are very strict and have a successful program.  I personally know a man who went to prison for exposing himself to children of both sexes and for fondling female children.  He is one of the most spiritual, kindest, intelligent, most sensitive people I have ever met.  He knows he has this addiction and follows strictly the principles he was taught in RSA.  He had determined never to have children or be around them and never allows himself to have destructive thoughts.  He's looking for a woman with whom he can share his life, and I think she'll be lucky to have him.   

  

I'd be curious to know if anyone else knows a former abuser who has become a blessing to society.  They're not all the same.  Every case is different, and we shouldn't be automatically afraid or disdainful of someone we discover in our neighborhood.  You really have to know exactly what the person has done. 

Who brain washed you? Spiritual man? Kind and intelligent? He molested children. I don't care how reformed these men say they are anyone who hurts a child should be locked up for the rest of their lives. A woman is lucky to have a man who has sexually molested children? Give me a break. If I ever found out someone on my street molested kids I would get out of there so fast. My childrens lives are a hell of a lot more important then scum like that. 

I don't care what program they went into. You even wrote he is addicted and follows strict principles. To me that is not a person who would never hurt a child again. 

 
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July 12, 2006, 3:22 pm PDT

He is looking for his next victims

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There is a program RSA (Redirecting Sexual Agressiveness) that is offered to some cases that seem to have the potential for being productive, non-threatening citizens.  They are very strict and have a successful program.  I personally know a man who went to prison for exposing himself to children of both sexes and for fondling female children.  He is one of the most spiritual, kindest, intelligent, most sensitive people I have ever met.  He knows he has this addiction and follows strictly the principles he was taught in RSA.  He had determined never to have children or be around them and never allows himself to have destructive thoughts.  He's looking for a woman with whom he can share his life, and I think she'll be lucky to have him.   

  

I'd be curious to know if anyone else knows a former abuser who has become a blessing to society.  They're not all the same.  Every case is different, and we shouldn't be automatically afraid or disdainful of someone we discover in our neighborhood.  You really have to know exactly what the person has done. 

This is a sickness there is no cure. This guy   is good at manipulation. This guy is looking for a good woman, well of course he is she will have plenty of relatives for him to molest. Just because she may not have kids does not mean that she won't have nieces,nephews or grandchildren. Again there are programs out there yes but there is absolutely no cure!!!!!!!!!!!!!  You can have sympathy if you want that is your right but don't help this guy find his next victim. He lost his rights to human contact when he rob a child of their soul.   

 
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July 12, 2006, 6:46 pm PDT

Be careful!

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There is a program RSA (Redirecting Sexual Agressiveness) that is offered to some cases that seem to have the potential for being productive, non-threatening citizens.  They are very strict and have a successful program.  I personally know a man who went to prison for exposing himself to children of both sexes and for fondling female children.  He is one of the most spiritual, kindest, intelligent, most sensitive people I have ever met.  He knows he has this addiction and follows strictly the principles he was taught in RSA.  He had determined never to have children or be around them and never allows himself to have destructive thoughts.  He's looking for a woman with whom he can share his life, and I think she'll be lucky to have him.   

  

I'd be curious to know if anyone else knows a former abuser who has become a blessing to society.  They're not all the same.  Every case is different, and we shouldn't be automatically afraid or disdainful of someone we discover in our neighborhood.  You really have to know exactly what the person has done. 

Sorry, but I've studied the crime of both child sexual abuse and the sexual abuse of adults. I've also worked with both rape victims and with pedophiles. There is NO cure for pedophilia and the success rates of any and all programs dealing with this have dismal results. You saying this program is "successful" is incorrect.  

  

Give your friend time and opportunity. I will put money on him finding a woman who has children. Pedophiles are con artists and so many Christian women (I am a proud member of that category) are SADLY easily conned. Everyone finds Jesus in prision. It's when they're out that the problems start all over again. He may be on the straight and narrow now, but it won't be long before that changes. I wish him (and you well), but your total belief in him is not warranted (look at all the stats). 

 
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July 13, 2006, 12:05 pm PDT

07/12 A Predator in the House?

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There is a program RSA (Redirecting Sexual Agressiveness) that is offered to some cases that seem to have the potential for being productive, non-threatening citizens.  They are very strict and have a successful program.  I personally know a man who went to prison for exposing himself to children of both sexes and for fondling female children.  He is one of the most spiritual, kindest, intelligent, most sensitive people I have ever met.  He knows he has this addiction and follows strictly the principles he was taught in RSA.  He had determined never to have children or be around them and never allows himself to have destructive thoughts.  He's looking for a woman with whom he can share his life, and I think she'll be lucky to have him.   

  

I'd be curious to know if anyone else knows a former abuser who has become a blessing to society.  They're not all the same.  Every case is different, and we shouldn't be automatically afraid or disdainful of someone we discover in our neighborhood.  You really have to know exactly what the person has done. 

 I am currently married to a sexual offender.   Many years ago he had consensual sex with a underage girl. he paid his price for his indiscretion and has moved on.  We have a wonderful family , go to church, and he is a great provider for us.  He went to counseling for five years only to find out that the counseling in our area, (probably our state) is a joke.  My husband was at a low point in his life, his 1st marriage was falling apart and he was very depressed, but instead of getting him counseling for the depression, they put him in counseling for sexual predators and pedophiles.  My husband was appalled by what he heard in the group sessions.If only the family members of these men could hear what the group heard. My husband is considered no risk of re-offending but yet he is on a web-site right along with the serious offenders, with no differentiation.  I can't allow my children to play outside because our address is all over the Internet.  The young girl, on the other hand, was not given any counseling and continued to go after older men. There were several more after my husband.  I believe that there should be differentiation between sexual offenders and predators.  I know there are different categories, but the public is not aware of the difference and therefor they are afraid of everyone.  knowledge is a very powerful tool in protecting your children.  The web-sites are nice and convenient and it makes us feel more secure that we know where offenders live.  The truth however is they live with you.  They are your relatives and your long time family friends, your son's friends and your daughters boyfriends.  If you want to protect your children, don't come after my family, take care of yours!!!  know where your children are and who they are with.  whether these people can be cured or not is not the issue the public should be worried about, that should be taken on an individual basis by real professionals.  Some people should never leave prison, and some offenders never belonged there.  We had two major cases of child abduction and murder in our state last year, two young girls who were taken.  One was by a sex offender.  The only thing these two cases had in common:  their parents were not home when they were taken!!!!
 


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