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September 11, 2006, 7:16 pm PDT

Been their..done that!

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

My advice to you would be...tell him to leave!

I was with an alcoholic for ten years. It almost ruined my life! He isn't gonna change. He needs to be on his own..or he won't get help. You are being his enabler!! He can quit drinking if he really wants to? I always say"..when there's a will..there's a way!!

In the time that I was with mine, I became an alcoholic, too. My whole life was a night mare, I moved away and got my life together..thank's to Dr. Phil's books. I'm more together now than ever!!

The more you try to help him..the worse it will get. He has to do this on his own, trust me? You need to use "tough love"..and stick to your guns!! You can do it:):)

Good luck to you..my friend!

 
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May 1, 2007, 11:33 am PDT

Don't be a door mat - do something good for you

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

If he's an alcoholic and you love him, I would suggest you try some al-anon meetings. It will help you understand why you put up with this.  You'll never be able to make him stop drinking but you can get the tools that will help you, not him - You. There's some reason you let this go on and you need to figure out what it is. Al-Anon is the best place to get that help. The worst that will happen is that it will help you decide you want to leave him and that might not be all that bad.  You see, I know from experience because I'm 50, married and divorced twice, and an addict/alcoholic with 18 years of continuous clean time/sobriety. People can change when it comes to certain behanviours. I think addicts and alcoholics are always the first people that most believe are beyond any help. I've seen doctors tell me there was nothing they could do to help. I finally got the help for myself and now am able to help others in this process.  I still work on my recovery, attend meetings regularly (2 or 3 every week). I attended Al-Anon for a while and it helped me understand myself and my ex-husband who was also an alcoholic. Give yourself this gift - you won't regret it.

 

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June 1, 2007, 5:08 pm PDT

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

I was also married twice to alcoholics. The first time for 17 years an the next time for 15 years. Im songle an have been for 7 years now an I dont have any one living with me by chose.Let me tell you something he will continue to lie to you. That is what they do. Anything to get that drink . You can not help him he has to want to help himself. If I was you YES I would leave him there are better men out there. an whos to say you just might the single life it isnt all that bad. But dont rush into anything let things happen slowly..  the next time an no move ins.lolSo again yes I would leave he is not going to stop until he knows he has a problem. Sorry.:-(
 
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June 6, 2007, 8:23 am PDT

Dating After 40

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

You need to do more than "survive pretty well". Get rid of him sister!! He does not want help. I am a recovered alcoholic, haven;t had a drink in 16 1/2 years and believe me, unless he sees and wants help on his own for himself, he's not going to listen to you. You've been divorced twice, I'm going on 3rd divorce (and not happy or proud about it), but it's time for healthy relationships in our lives at our age!!  You are not married to this man and owe him nothing. Try to seek some peace and contentment in your life. You do ot need the stress of this mans problems in your life!!
 

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July 17, 2007, 11:43 am PDT

LEAVE HIM !!!

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

Leave him.  Fast.
 
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July 25, 2007, 8:09 pm PDT

Been there, done that!

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

I certainly know how you feel and where you're coming from..  I, too, was involved with a man while in my late 30's that had an addiction problem.  Unfortunately, didn't know he would start the addiction until after we were in our relationship for a year.  Like your boyfriend, mine would lie about his addiction (and other things), never accept "full" responsibility for it, and be deceitful.  He made all kinds of promises that he would "get help" because our relationship meant so much to him.  I believed him, because I knew what kind of man he was before he started with his bad habits, and wanted to believe that we could get back to that.  I also vowed that I would help him with recovery and be there for him.  I was let down time and time again with his empty promises!  I finally decided that I needed to allow him get help on his own, and be in recovery for a specified period of time before I would be willing to move any further with a relationship with him.  This would put the sole responsibility on him and I wouldn't have to worry about any more disappointments.  It was the right thing to do...he was unable to get help for himself, his addiction took a spiral downhill and started to affect his everyday life in a very negative way.  I drew the line and broke things off until I felt he could get his life back on track and be a healthy partner to me.   He never did!  His life continued to go downhill and we no longer have a relationship...thank God.   In retrospect, it was the best decision I could have ever possibly made for myself, even though it didn't feel that way at the time.  So...are you being a fool to stick around?  Yep, addicts do lie and aren't able to control that.  And...it's very unhealthy to be in a relationship with ta person that has that  kind of value system.  Move on!  In due time, you'll be happy you did.  Good luck to you. 
 
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July 25, 2007, 10:47 pm PDT

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

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August 17, 2007, 3:49 pm PDT

Dating After 40

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

You need to get out now while you can. Alcholics, esp ones who lie and wont get professional help will never change. You are doomed to a miserable life of lies, and drunkiness.  It is one yr lost, thats it and you have survived after divorce of a 25 yr marriage, you certainly can weather this storm. Dont settle for this type of behavior and man. Best of luck to you.
 
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September 5, 2007, 11:58 am PDT

Dating After 40

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

OMG..this sounds exactly like me...I was with a guy for over a year and it was the same, alcoholic who said he could do it on his own, swore he wan't drinking etc etc...well I can tell you from experience the only person who can help him is him..you can not make him stop drinking or lying and the best thing you can do is get out now and get help for yourself. By staying all you are doing is making yourself misreable and he won't get help until he hits bottom and you don't want to go to the bottom with him. I left and found out after I left the guy I was with lost everything, his job, car, kid and STILL couldn't admit he had a problem...he did stop drinking but hadn't gotten sober ( sober is a state of mind where they take responsibility for their drinking as well as what happened because of it.) Even though he stopped drinking he still blamed everyone and everything else for his problems not because he was drinking. Alanon is a great place to find strenghth. Good Luck.
 
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November 1, 2007, 8:38 am PDT

Good Advice for you!

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I am 51 years old, divorced twice.  First time after a 25 year marriage, second time after a 1 year marriage.  I am currently living with my boyfriend of 1 year.  During this year together, we have been through a lot and have survived pretty well.  We seem to have been able to work things out and stay on track.  The one issue that will not go away is his lying to me and I am at my wits end over it.  He is an alcoholic.  He says he knows it and says he can conquer it without help from anyone or any organization.  He did go to a couple of counseling sessions with me, but has now told me that he won't go to any more because it's always just the same thing over and over and he gets nothing out of it.  He says he has quit drinking completely, but has said this before and I eventually found out that he was sneaking drinks every chance he got.  i was out of state for the summer and we made a deal that I would only return home if he got help and quit for real.  He agreed to quit but not get help.  The whole time I was away, he swore he never took a drink.  I was suspicious a couple of times during phone conversations, but he adamantely denied drinking.  Since I have returned home, I have discovered that he was indeed drinking on those occasions (and probably more).  When i confront him about it, he denies denies denies.  He will not come clean.  I don't know what to do about the lying.  I am willing to help him kick the alcohol habit, and was totally committed to that until I caught him lying about it once again.  Now I don't know if I'm just being a fool to stay around when I know he lies to me.  Would sure love some good advice.

Oh, I have some GREAT advice for you. I was married to an alcoholic for 10 years.  He didn't need any help either!  My advice:  RUN don't walk to the nearest Al-Anon meeting!! You need help!! You are totally codependent.  YOU can't help him!  He needs to help himself. YOU deserve better.  I was so addicted to my ex husband, I thought I couldn't live without him.  What a crock!!!  You need to go to Al-Anon!! Please do so and start taking care of yourself, not him!!!!!!!   I've been happily divorced single mom for 15 years.  I have a beautiful, wonderful man in my life who is every girl's dream.  We've been together for 5 years, and he is amazing.  There is life after alcoholism.  However,  I would have never met him, or been attracted to him before I took care of myself.       Blessing to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 


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