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September 6, 2005, 2:07 pm PDT

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I need to get some feedback on what people believe about having prenuptual agreements.  My boyfriend and I are having a serious disagreement on the need for one.   Neither one of us is a millionaire, but we make all of our bills and have money left to enjoy life.  He says that having a prenuptual agreement is just a guarantee that we will stay together and there will be no arguments.  I see prenuptuals as an easy way out in case a marriage doesn't seem to be working.  We have both been married before and I don't see divorce as a possibility.  My marriage ending before was not my decision.  I believe that people that don't see divorce as a possibility should not need to worry about a prenup.  I don't think I could be with someone that would want me to do this? I feel humiliated and can only see it as making sure there is an easy way out?? Am I wrong?? I really want some opinions!!  

P.S. He does have a daughter who is 19 years old that lives at home and is pregnant. I realize he wants to make sure that if he would die that his house goes to her which I am fine with.  I told him to put it in his will for the house.  We don't live together, so I would have no desire to have that house especially once we get one together.  HELP!  

A prenuptual will never prevent a divorce - it just helps in the distribution of assets and prevents one party from getting more of something.  I am 58 and don't like them.  I come from the school that says when you get married you had better talked things over and be Mature enough and 'Old enought to understand what you are doing!!! 

  

In a sense it is an easy way out - to some degree it can be depending on how it's written.  I do know what you mean when you say 'you feel humiliated' - make sure each of you know whats what. 

  

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September 29, 2005, 10:43 am PDT

Prenups are a great idea!

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I need to get some feedback on what people believe about having prenuptual agreements.  My boyfriend and I are having a serious disagreement on the need for one.   Neither one of us is a millionaire, but we make all of our bills and have money left to enjoy life.  He says that having a prenuptual agreement is just a guarantee that we will stay together and there will be no arguments.  I see prenuptuals as an easy way out in case a marriage doesn't seem to be working.  We have both been married before and I don't see divorce as a possibility.  My marriage ending before was not my decision.  I believe that people that don't see divorce as a possibility should not need to worry about a prenup.  I don't think I could be with someone that would want me to do this? I feel humiliated and can only see it as making sure there is an easy way out?? Am I wrong?? I really want some opinions!!  

P.S. He does have a daughter who is 19 years old that lives at home and is pregnant. I realize he wants to make sure that if he would die that his house goes to her which I am fine with.  I told him to put it in his will for the house.  We don't live together, so I would have no desire to have that house especially once we get one together.  HELP!  

Prenups are a great idea. NO one believes when they get married that they would ever wind up divorced- otherwise, why go through it? And prenups seem unnecessary when everyone is happy and the sun is shining and you are in LOVE. But, when the rainclouds form, and someone has an affair, develops a substance abuse issue, families get in the middle of it all, or another calamity, that prenup is going to protect everyone. Plus, its one less thing to fight about if you are divorcing. Greed is a human condition, and under stress, it can be another partner in the divorce. And, if he has a child who is going to have a child, that alone is enough stress to make even the most tranquil relastionship suffer......Go for the prenup- even the most basic will give you protection for the things you've already acquired- your house, stocks, etc- in your name alone.......
 
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October 7, 2005, 3:31 pm PDT

Arguing Over Money

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I need to get some feedback on what people believe about having prenuptual agreements.  My boyfriend and I are having a serious disagreement on the need for one.   Neither one of us is a millionaire, but we make all of our bills and have money left to enjoy life.  He says that having a prenuptual agreement is just a guarantee that we will stay together and there will be no arguments.  I see prenuptuals as an easy way out in case a marriage doesn't seem to be working.  We have both been married before and I don't see divorce as a possibility.  My marriage ending before was not my decision.  I believe that people that don't see divorce as a possibility should not need to worry about a prenup.  I don't think I could be with someone that would want me to do this? I feel humiliated and can only see it as making sure there is an easy way out?? Am I wrong?? I really want some opinions!!  

P.S. He does have a daughter who is 19 years old that lives at home and is pregnant. I realize he wants to make sure that if he would die that his house goes to her which I am fine with.  I told him to put it in his will for the house.  We don't live together, so I would have no desire to have that house especially once we get one together.  HELP!  

 I believe that in cases where one party has much to loose in the event of a divorce, a prenuptial agreement is a must.  A prenuptial agreement, however, will not "keep you together" as you say.  A prenup is something that you BOTH agree on and decide is fair in the beginning.  It's not like you don't have a say in what's going on.  Most people don't go into a marriage thinking it's going to fail (why would you get married otherwise), but the divorce rate doesn't look pretty.  Lay it all out on the table before you get married.  If you strongly disagree with something he wants to have in there, then don't get married until you do agree.  Divorce is most often very stressful, expensive, and taxing both financially and emotionally.  Anything you can do beforehand to make that process a little easier is worth doing.  If you never get divorced, then the prenuptial agreement never becomes an issue.  If the unfortunate happens and you do end up divorcing, at least everyone involved knows what to expect...there won't be any surprises. 
 


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