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October 29, 2006, 7:27 am PST

11/01 Is This Normal?

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I'm a church pastor who has given up trying to get members to understand that wreaths, trees, mistletoe, and red and green have nothing whatsoever to do with Christmas and are indeed symbols of pagan religions.  But, if they want to celebrate with over the top decorating and gift buying, I guess I won't be able to stop them.   I wonder what the originator of Christmas thinks about it, though. 

 

I grew up in a midwestern, mid-sized city where the local political cartoonist used the same cartoon every Christmas day for years on end.  Hugh Haynie depicted a person staring off into air, holding his incredibly full Christmas gift list.  He thinks to himself "Have I forgotten anybody?"

as the One whose birthday it is is looking over his shoulder, finding his name nowhere on the list.

 

I personally decided years ago that Christmas cards, parties, clothes, foods and the like would be eliminated from my celebrations.  I would only do those things that put Christ at the center.  Since that decision, Christmas has become happier, longer-lasting, with absolutely no post-holiday let-down.  After Christmas comes the rest of the Christian year with an equal amount of meaning and joy.  I would never want to return to the shopping malls and kitchen to find Christmas. 

 

Thank you for listening.  Nobody else around here will!   <grin>

I don't do any over the top buying when holidays come around.  We make our own wreaths and get our own tree (has to be real!).  My kids only get 3 gifts each, that's it.  But you see, these decorations are how my ancestors celebrated and I like to carry on the tradition. =)   

 

I wonder what the originator of Christmas thinks about it, though. 

 

Hmm, I don't know if we could go back and ask them.  In an attempt to convert Pagans, Christians brought the Pagan traditions into their festivities.  Hasn't anyone ever wondered why Christmas is celebrated so closely to the Winter Solstice?  Jesus wasn't even born in winter. 

 

I don't have any post holiday let downs as well.  I really don't like crowded shopping malls and try to avoid them if I can. LOL  I agree with you on that one! LOL  I'm glad that you can celebrate it your own way and feel really good about it. 

 

Again, this is another holiday celebrating this Earth and all that is in it.  Joy to the world!

 

Thanks for reading.

 

 

 
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October 29, 2006, 10:04 am PST

11/01 Is This Normal?

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I'm a church pastor who has given up trying to get members to understand that wreaths, trees, mistletoe, and red and green have nothing whatsoever to do with Christmas and are indeed symbols of pagan religions.  But, if they want to celebrate with over the top decorating and gift buying, I guess I won't be able to stop them.   I wonder what the originator of Christmas thinks about it, though. 

 

I grew up in a midwestern, mid-sized city where the local political cartoonist used the same cartoon every Christmas day for years on end.  Hugh Haynie depicted a person staring off into air, holding his incredibly full Christmas gift list.  He thinks to himself "Have I forgotten anybody?"

as the One whose birthday it is is looking over his shoulder, finding his name nowhere on the list.

 

I personally decided years ago that Christmas cards, parties, clothes, foods and the like would be eliminated from my celebrations.  I would only do those things that put Christ at the center.  Since that decision, Christmas has become happier, longer-lasting, with absolutely no post-holiday let-down.  After Christmas comes the rest of the Christian year with an equal amount of meaning and joy.  I would never want to return to the shopping malls and kitchen to find Christmas. 

 

Thank you for listening.  Nobody else around here will!   <grin>

 I'm a Christian whose children go trick or treating AND whose pastor hands out candy and treats to the kids. A lot of churches in our area use this as an evanglism tool. I love going to parties and dressing up and being silly. I also,do the tree for Christmas, presents etc. Some of those traditions may have pagan origins but, it's about what they are for us (tradition, connection with our family's past) Not about their origins. That kinda logic would keep me from using technology as it was advanced mostly by war. Jesus knows my heart and intentions THAT'S what matters most.
 
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October 29, 2006, 10:28 am PST

11/01 Is This Normal?

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I'm a church pastor who has given up trying to get members to understand that wreaths, trees, mistletoe, and red and green have nothing whatsoever to do with Christmas and are indeed symbols of pagan religions.  But, if they want to celebrate with over the top decorating and gift buying, I guess I won't be able to stop them.   I wonder what the originator of Christmas thinks about it, though. 

 

I grew up in a midwestern, mid-sized city where the local political cartoonist used the same cartoon every Christmas day for years on end.  Hugh Haynie depicted a person staring off into air, holding his incredibly full Christmas gift list.  He thinks to himself "Have I forgotten anybody?"

as the One whose birthday it is is looking over his shoulder, finding his name nowhere on the list.

 

I personally decided years ago that Christmas cards, parties, clothes, foods and the like would be eliminated from my celebrations.  I would only do those things that put Christ at the center.  Since that decision, Christmas has become happier, longer-lasting, with absolutely no post-holiday let-down.  After Christmas comes the rest of the Christian year with an equal amount of meaning and joy.  I would never want to return to the shopping malls and kitchen to find Christmas. 

 

Thank you for listening.  Nobody else around here will!   <grin>

I guess I don't understand. This is something I have been trying to understand for a loooong time now and maybe you can answer this for me.

Why does it matter what the originator of a tradition had in mind or what their beliefs are? These things morph and evolve. I'm an atheist and I have a Christmas tree and I celebrate Halloween. These things, although started from paganism, are now secular to most people.

Why does being a Christian stop you from embracing the one time of year that many people come together on? There is a feeling of happiness and harmony in the air during December that the rest of the year lacks.  Sending a Christmas card is nice, getting one is nice.  The parties, the decorations, the music...it's all nice. It's like a party for all of man kind once a year.

And the other part I don't understand is, why is it so BAD that these things are Pagan? Pagans are good people. They are peaceful people.


 
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November 1, 2006, 2:16 pm PST

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I'm a church pastor who has given up trying to get members to understand that wreaths, trees, mistletoe, and red and green have nothing whatsoever to do with Christmas and are indeed symbols of pagan religions.  But, if they want to celebrate with over the top decorating and gift buying, I guess I won't be able to stop them.   I wonder what the originator of Christmas thinks about it, though. 

 

I grew up in a midwestern, mid-sized city where the local political cartoonist used the same cartoon every Christmas day for years on end.  Hugh Haynie depicted a person staring off into air, holding his incredibly full Christmas gift list.  He thinks to himself "Have I forgotten anybody?"

as the One whose birthday it is is looking over his shoulder, finding his name nowhere on the list.

 

I personally decided years ago that Christmas cards, parties, clothes, foods and the like would be eliminated from my celebrations.  I would only do those things that put Christ at the center.  Since that decision, Christmas has become happier, longer-lasting, with absolutely no post-holiday let-down.  After Christmas comes the rest of the Christian year with an equal amount of meaning and joy.  I would never want to return to the shopping malls and kitchen to find Christmas. 

 

Thank you for listening.  Nobody else around here will!   <grin>

     I do not get into the world's version of Christmas, or other holidays, either.  Before becoming a Christian, I practiced witchcraft (whether you want to call it that or not, that's what it is).  And because of learning about what all the colors and elements and symbols represent, I could not bring myself to continue with any of it after I knew God.  Even many of my Christian friends and family don't understand this.  We can't ignore it altogether, all the kids at school are talking about it, it's all over the TV, everywhere.  But, the truth is, none of those things serve to glorify God.  Our family just uses the holiday to remind our children of God's love and grace.  I'm glad there are so many other people out there who understand this.
 
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November 1, 2006, 5:20 pm PST

11/01 Is This Normal?

Quote From: fidosmommy

I'm a church pastor who has given up trying to get members to understand that wreaths, trees, mistletoe, and red and green have nothing whatsoever to do with Christmas and are indeed symbols of pagan religions.  But, if they want to celebrate with over the top decorating and gift buying, I guess I won't be able to stop them.   I wonder what the originator of Christmas thinks about it, though. 

 

I grew up in a midwestern, mid-sized city where the local political cartoonist used the same cartoon every Christmas day for years on end.  Hugh Haynie depicted a person staring off into air, holding his incredibly full Christmas gift list.  He thinks to himself "Have I forgotten anybody?"

as the One whose birthday it is is looking over his shoulder, finding his name nowhere on the list.

 

I personally decided years ago that Christmas cards, parties, clothes, foods and the like would be eliminated from my celebrations.  I would only do those things that put Christ at the center.  Since that decision, Christmas has become happier, longer-lasting, with absolutely no post-holiday let-down.  After Christmas comes the rest of the Christian year with an equal amount of meaning and joy.  I would never want to return to the shopping malls and kitchen to find Christmas. 

 

Thank you for listening.  Nobody else around here will!   <grin>

AMEN!!!!
 


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