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November 14, 2006, 9:21 am PST

11/07 The Lie Detector, Part 2

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 This series has hit very close to home with me.  I'm married to a woman who had 2 children from a previous marriage and one out of wedlock.  The father gets the usual every other weekend deal and the other guy sees his son whenever.  I'm closer to these children than their biological fathers are by a long shot.  My wife and I had suspicions of the first father molesting the daughter, 3 at the time.  We confronted him, slowed down his number of visitations, and watched her closely, asking her questions that wouldn't let her know what kind of answer we were expecting, we wanted her to tell us.  Nothing ever came up.  Her area would be red when she came home and she started touching herself.  When our wedding was coming closer, we asked the second father to watch all three kids for a couple of minutes so we could file for our license.  Later when our daughter was visiting her grandmother in North Texas, she told her that the second father had made her touch his bottom (what she calls everything covered by underwear).  She asked a couple more questions, then called us, deeply disturbed.  We went to see our daughter and notified her father, who responded "what do you want me to do?"  I griped him out and he finally responded.  We contacted CPS and had several sessions.  The conclusion we got was that basically there was no evidence and that being 3, her word couldn't be taken (could be her imagination), and something else about the ages of the other children.  It was all nothing but a bunch of B.S.  They offered to had a counselor come in and talk with us and help us with seeing the signs, but nothing to help with the current issues.  I was disturbed by Dr. Phil's defense of CPS.  Obviously he doesn't work with them at the level of common people, because I know first hand and know from others that CPS hasn't done their job on many occasions.  Our case was closed and all that was offered was a counseling session.  So much for protecting our child.

Our youngest, the child of the second father, doesn't have any legal rights defined (custody, visitation, etc between my wife and the father).  My wife is afraid to do anything that might upset the second father because she's afraid that he might attempt to keep our son or do something.  I believe that he has serious mental issues.  He talks and acts exactly like the father on the show, which is really scary.  He's made the same comments and defenses in almost exactly the same language.  The scary thing is, I believe that he doesn't think that he's done anything.  I believe that he makes these lies and somehow believes them himself.  He's also been caught breaking in and sticking tape recorders in our house, caught lying on several occasions that he still to this day denies (stuff as simple as smoking), and has done several other things including not giving his son back to my wife.  I've received reports from one of his ex-friends that he's trying to take our child away, that he's taking pictures of any and every bruise of cut that's ever on him and turning them in.  Our other son is Autistic and can hit if provoked, which the youngest tends to do.  The youngest is also very clumsy lately, so we can't keep him from getting everything.  We've been watching ourselves though.

Now I know that so far all I've stated was that she said that he made her touch his bottom.  We continue to try to get a little more details from her ever once in awhile and through that asked what his "bottom" looked like and she stuck her finger out and described it, and she did a very good job too because she even described the loose skin from him not being circumcised.  That's when there was absolutely no doubt at all that he had done it.  We believed our daughter, but after time, my wife tried talking herself out of it, but I remained knowing that something had happened.  She also described how she touched it by putting her hand around her finger and "stroking."  I just about walked out the door in rage to break his neck and cut off his d!@# and shove it up his ass.

We got this last bit of information two weeks ago and are trying to figure out what do do from here.  There is no doubt that he did it.  I don't want him to see my wife, my kids, or his own.  I'm not sure how to go about it the smart way to remain in custody of his birth child, get all the rights, and get a warrant of trespass on my property.  I want to do it smart so there is no question of his guilt and no chance that our child be given to him.  I'm currently working about 50 hours a week and working on graduating from college this December, so my time has been drained.  We need help and I don't know where to turn.  It seems like everyone in this town knows him and don't know the deceptive and manipulating side of him.  One of our own Sheriffs didn't want to give my wife a warrant of trespass for her last residence after all the evidence of his lies and acts.  Of course he also plays drums for a local church and talks about messing with every prostitute in Mexico to another officer in front of my wife when she was being interviewed.

I don't know where to turn, but something needs to be done and I can't do it because the children need protection, but they also need a father at home, not in jail.

I agree whole heartedly if the little girl was examined and something was broken now some one done something .they don't need no lie detector for that now do they.something in the milk ain't clean and I know Dr.Phil will get to bottom of this.

 


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