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November 18, 2006, 5:49 pm PST
 Quote From: julie1418 I will agree that homeschooling is not for everyone, it is only for people who truly care about the education their child recieves.
So parents who don't home school don't care about the education of their children. Wow!
As a former school administrator who has watched countless children revolve in and out of homeschooling, I can tell you that your evidence is purely anecdotal and completely biased. I am sure you know many successful homeschooling families, but that doesn't mean there aren't many unsuccessful homeschooling families. You don't know them because they are not joining your network and keeping active in all the work and commitment it takes to educate a child.
I am glad your state has some sort of regulation. My state pretty much lets any parents simply say they are homeschooling, fill out a withdrawal form, and that's that. many parents pull their kids out of public schools because they are tired of the school informing them that children are not behaving or participating in their learning. Then they get them home and realize that their kids will misbehave, not cooperate, and refuse to learn at home too! HUGE surprise!
I have a Masters in education, and I have no plans to home school my two children. I take great offense at you insinuating that I don't truly care about my children's education. While I do not know every family that homeschools (that would be an impossible accomplishment) I know that statistically homeschoolers do much better both academically and socially. Your assumption that I said only homeschooling families care about their children shows that even though you may have a higher education you are ignorant. I did not say that people who don't homeschool don't care about their children's education. You really have to be a dedicated and caring parent to make and follow through with the commitment to homeschool. Not all my son's public school time was bad, he had some wonderful caring teachers. (who supported my decision to homeschool) I am willing to bet you, being an education professional, have seen teachers who don't care and just pass kids along. I hope you are not that kind of teacher. Teaching is probably one of the most difficult jobs out there, with little pay and having to deal with children who have parents who refuse to parent makes the job even harder. Bottom line, a parent is the child's first teacher, and I believe the most important. |
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November 19, 2006, 10:38 am PST
Quote From: julie1418 I will agree that homeschooling is not for everyone, it is only for people who truly care about the education their child recieves.
So parents who don't home school don't care about the education of their children. Wow!
As a former school administrator who has watched countless children revolve in and out of homeschooling, I can tell you that your evidence is purely anecdotal and completely biased. I am sure you know many successful homeschooling families, but that doesn't mean there aren't many unsuccessful homeschooling families. You don't know them because they are not joining your network and keeping active in all the work and commitment it takes to educate a child.
I am glad your state has some sort of regulation. My state pretty much lets any parents simply say they are homeschooling, fill out a withdrawal form, and that's that. many parents pull their kids out of public schools because they are tired of the school informing them that children are not behaving or participating in their learning. Then they get them home and realize that their kids will misbehave, not cooperate, and refuse to learn at home too! HUGE surprise!
I have a Masters in education, and I have no plans to home school my two children. I take great offense at you insinuating that I don't truly care about my children's education. Talk about twisting words. I do not believe the poster you are replying to was saying that at all. In typycal public school administrator fashion, of course you take offense. I take offense to your tone towards homeschoolers. Your Masters in "Education" does not make you better qualified to teach MY children. Today's Educational degrees are a joke in my opinion.
To all the parents out there whose kids are "doing great" in public school, you will one day wake up to the reality of grade inflation. In my day, it was very rare that 80% of the class had A's. Today it happens all the time. Hmmmm......education quality down, grades up. Something doesn't smell right. If I were you I would have your child independently tested to find out just "how great" they are doing. If your public school child had less than stellar SAT scores or has to take remedial classes in college, then they didn't "do great." Colleges are actively seeking out homeschoolers these days because they are better disciplined and more organized as a whole. They also have higher scores on SAT's and won't fill the remedial classes. College administrators are fed up with the huge numbers of students that come to college unprepared, and not surprisingly, most of the students come from public schools. |
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November 21, 2006, 10:01 pm PST
Quote From: julie1418 I will agree that homeschooling is not for everyone, it is only for people who truly care about the education their child recieves.
So parents who don't home school don't care about the education of their children. Wow!
As a former school administrator who has watched countless children revolve in and out of homeschooling, I can tell you that your evidence is purely anecdotal and completely biased. I am sure you know many successful homeschooling families, but that doesn't mean there aren't many unsuccessful homeschooling families. You don't know them because they are not joining your network and keeping active in all the work and commitment it takes to educate a child.
I am glad your state has some sort of regulation. My state pretty much lets any parents simply say they are homeschooling, fill out a withdrawal form, and that's that. many parents pull their kids out of public schools because they are tired of the school informing them that children are not behaving or participating in their learning. Then they get them home and realize that their kids will misbehave, not cooperate, and refuse to learn at home too! HUGE surprise!
I have a Masters in education, and I have no plans to home school my two children. I take great offense at you insinuating that I don't truly care about my children's education. Well, now, who is being "defensive"? I don't think that the poster was saying that parents who don't homeschool, don't care about their children's education. She was saying that to homeschool, you must care about your children's education. This was likely in response to something you said (or another poster- I forget who it was, now!), where you commented on how there were all sorts of parents that didn't care to come into the school to see how their children were doing, and that they blamed you (or teachers and schools in general) for their failings as parents. I think the poster's point was that those parents- that don't take responsibilty for their children's educations while their children are in a school- are not likely going to do any better, if their children are homeschooled. In other words, in general, homeschoolers do what they do, because they value and love their children, and they value and love their children's education. It does NOT mean that a person who sends their children to school, are then unloving or uncaring. I think that you are misreading or over-reacting to her words. |
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November 24, 2006, 3:21 pm PST
Quote From: julie1418 I will agree that homeschooling is not for everyone, it is only for people who truly care about the education their child recieves.
So parents who don't home school don't care about the education of their children. Wow!
As a former school administrator who has watched countless children revolve in and out of homeschooling, I can tell you that your evidence is purely anecdotal and completely biased. I am sure you know many successful homeschooling families, but that doesn't mean there aren't many unsuccessful homeschooling families. You don't know them because they are not joining your network and keeping active in all the work and commitment it takes to educate a child.
I am glad your state has some sort of regulation. My state pretty much lets any parents simply say they are homeschooling, fill out a withdrawal form, and that's that. many parents pull their kids out of public schools because they are tired of the school informing them that children are not behaving or participating in their learning. Then they get them home and realize that their kids will misbehave, not cooperate, and refuse to learn at home too! HUGE surprise!
I have a Masters in education, and I have no plans to home school my two children. I take great offense at you insinuating that I don't truly care about my children's education. While I can completely understand why you may have taken her response as an insult, I have to believe that she meant that homeschooling parents care about their child’s education from the standpoint they are willing to sacrifice in many ways in order to guarantee that their children know what they deem important, they can take the time to provide ample one on one attention (unlike the average 3 minutes per student a public school teacher is able to spend alone with each child per day), and they make the financial commitment to homeschool (homeschooling can be quite expensive- textbooks, workbooks, supplies and accessories, etc). I do not believe she was saying that parents who send the children to public school do not care, but was merely stating the obvious, that homeschooling parents do love and care for their children and it is visible by their choice to make an ultimate sacrifice for them.
I have a PhD and I have every intention of homeschooling my children. I can’t imagine what someone that is only required to obtain a BS in education can teach my child that I can not (and I only state that because I have spoke to numerous teachers who they themselves feel like that their BS degree in education was a waste of time and money, as earning the degree did not prepare them for an actual class setting (and it also seems odd to have someone teach my child chemistry who has only taken a high school chemistry class or learn math from someone who can barely solve an algebraic equation them self- at least at home I am able to get them a tutor from a professional in the field in which I lack knowledge, i.e. a chemist to tutor my child in chemistry)). I say too each his own… regardless of what society tries to force down our throat as “the right way”, we know what is best for our children. I am just glad to live in a society where we actually have choices in how to educate our kids. |
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