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November 24, 2006, 10:00 am PST

11/24 Great School Debate

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I discussed your recent show with my 10-year-old daughter.  She quite eloquently named the benefits she feels children receive from the school environment -- the ability to get along with all different types of children with all different levels of interest and learning abilities, who are from all different types of home environments.  (We do happen to live in a very diverse community.)  She also stated that she appreciates meeting adults who are different than I am.  This gives her other adults in her sphere that she trusts and loves, and gives her different perspectives on all kinds of things that will affect her future ability to "make it" in this world full of different kinds of people.  She is learning that I may not always be right, and that she may agree more with her teacher about a political issue, for example.  She is learning how to learn through different teaching styles and teacher's personalities.  (She is learning to cope.)  She is learning about different topics that I may not have thought to brought into her life.  Some of them she has an interest in, and some not so.  But, that's OK, too.  She is learning to decide what she has an interest in, and learning that she must follow through on the other subjects, as well.  My daughter also feels she has learned flexibility.  I feel that is very true and very necessary in life.  She is learning empathy for students who don't come from a loving, supportive home, or from a middle-class home with everything she needs easily provided.  She is learning how to pick her own friends, and how to stay away from that child who annoys you.  As you can see, she is a very creative thinker and very eloquent -- she could go on, but I think you can get the point that there are many things children learn in a school environment that help them cope with our world as it is.

 

My 14-year-old daughter and I did not discuss this topic, but I can tell you how I think she'd respond to this question.  She appreciates the ability to leave the house every school day.  She likes to keep her school day mostly private from me.  She is going through a very normal phase of development -- learning to be her own person, away from me and her father, learning what her interests may be, and how to find her own way in the world.  She then comes home to a safe, warm environment with people who are here for her when she needs us, and who are learning to let go, which seems to be mostly what she needs right now.  Letting our children go is not hard for them -- they yearn for it and will fight for it.  Yes, there will be bumps in their road, but who would want to delay these bumps and life lessons?  It is us parents (mothers, especially) who must take a good, hard look at our own motivation for keeping our children home and who must let our children move through the normal stages of development so that they will be normal, happy, successful adults.   

 

Let me add my own opinion to this --  I could not provide the rich learning environment that my children are acquiring in school.  I could not cover every single subject as well as a whole truck load of teachers do every day for my children and others like them. 

I also have been discussing this issue with my 8 year old daughter.  She is homeschooled, and is a bright energetic and independent learner.

Like your 10 year old, my daughter interacts with people from all walks of life.  All religions, all socio-economic backgrounds, all dietary lifestyles, all interests.  She encounters friendly people, rude people, people who support her interests, people who are neutral about her interests, people who listen to her and people who ignore her.

Like your 10 year old and your 14 year old, my children also appreciate having a reason to leave the house.  They do so willingly.  We don't have them on a leash.  They have freedom to interact with people they choose. 

I can see that you are very keen and aware of your children's needs.  It is obvious you realize that homeschooling or unschooling is certainly not for everyone.  Much in the same way that the public school environment is not necessarily set up "for everyone".

As an aside, it is my wish that some day, society will evolve to realize that there is no one "right" path for a child to how they are to reach adulthood.  The mainstream has to let go of a lot of preconceived ideas, and that may take some time.  In the meantime, the support I get from many public educators (go figure!) university educated professors (of which my father in law is one) and other people we encounter (how do we encounter them?  We leave our home, naturally!) is enough validation for me.

 
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November 24, 2006, 10:08 am PST

Here here!

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I discussed your recent show with my 10-year-old daughter.  She quite eloquently named the benefits she feels children receive from the school environment -- the ability to get along with all different types of children with all different levels of interest and learning abilities, who are from all different types of home environments.  (We do happen to live in a very diverse community.)  She also stated that she appreciates meeting adults who are different than I am.  This gives her other adults in her sphere that she trusts and loves, and gives her different perspectives on all kinds of things that will affect her future ability to "make it" in this world full of different kinds of people.  She is learning that I may not always be right, and that she may agree more with her teacher about a political issue, for example.  She is learning how to learn through different teaching styles and teacher's personalities.  (She is learning to cope.)  She is learning about different topics that I may not have thought to brought into her life.  Some of them she has an interest in, and some not so.  But, that's OK, too.  She is learning to decide what she has an interest in, and learning that she must follow through on the other subjects, as well.  My daughter also feels she has learned flexibility.  I feel that is very true and very necessary in life.  She is learning empathy for students who don't come from a loving, supportive home, or from a middle-class home with everything she needs easily provided.  She is learning how to pick her own friends, and how to stay away from that child who annoys you.  As you can see, she is a very creative thinker and very eloquent -- she could go on, but I think you can get the point that there are many things children learn in a school environment that help them cope with our world as it is.

 

My 14-year-old daughter and I did not discuss this topic, but I can tell you how I think she'd respond to this question.  She appreciates the ability to leave the house every school day.  She likes to keep her school day mostly private from me.  She is going through a very normal phase of development -- learning to be her own person, away from me and her father, learning what her interests may be, and how to find her own way in the world.  She then comes home to a safe, warm environment with people who are here for her when she needs us, and who are learning to let go, which seems to be mostly what she needs right now.  Letting our children go is not hard for them -- they yearn for it and will fight for it.  Yes, there will be bumps in their road, but who would want to delay these bumps and life lessons?  It is us parents (mothers, especially) who must take a good, hard look at our own motivation for keeping our children home and who must let our children move through the normal stages of development so that they will be normal, happy, successful adults.   

 

Let me add my own opinion to this --  I could not provide the rich learning environment that my children are acquiring in school.  I could not cover every single subject as well as a whole truck load of teachers do every day for my children and others like them. 

Very well stated! I think it is extremely naive and ignorant to think that the average mom or dad could provide the rich, well-rounded high level education that a certified, experienced and degreed educated teaching professionals can. Shame on them for compromising the growth and development of their children out of pure ignorance! At the end of the day, it is SO much easier to believe that what they think they are doing is right. After all, they will only find out they were wrong 20 years down the road when it is just, unfortunately way too late. Again, I think this educational approach is really riddled with self-serving motives to keep children under the watchful eye of an overprotective parent.

 

As noted by someone else, it is important to recognize that public education is constantly evolving and that trained teaching professionals are constantly being taught different educational approaches to help children comprehend and learn more successfully. It is totally crazy to think that through mere networks, home schooling or non-schooling parents could ever afford their children the educational foundation they need to be successful contributors to society.

 

What really cracked me up was the post by a home schooling mother that was riddled with spelling and grammar errors. How sad.

 

 


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