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November 25, 2006, 8:54 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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I agree with almost everything you have said, but not about the mother.

She is under a court order to let the father have the child. What should she do?

Defy the law and go to jail? She is trying to get to the truth. She has not witnessed anything, personally.

We live in America, and as citizens, must obey the law, and fight our battles through the courts, under the law.

MikiC

      As a mother who was recently in a similar situation I have to disagree with you MikiC. My ex husband was always verbally abusive to my children, and I had tried several different approaches to get something done (including taking online law courses). When he threw my then 14 yr. old daughter up against the wall I called his local law enforcement. They made him leave the house for the night but informed me that I could not pick my children up early without a court order. He lives in Alabama and I live in Tennessee and it was a holiday so that was an impossible thing to get. I called both my local CPS agency and his. I was told that neither one of them had jurisdiction. A year later, after their Thanksgiving holiday visit, I started noticing some very upsetting changes in  my then 15 yr. old daughter. She broke up with her boyfriend immediately upon her return and then pretty much just stayed in bed. She was clearly depressed but refused to talk about why. She was flunking out of her freshman yr. in high school. Still desperate to find the cause of her distress, I searched her bedroom. I found some disturbing pornographic writings which seemed to just be ramblings but occasionly made references to her father being a child molester. I then confronted her with the writings. What she told me put me in complete shock. Her father had tried to sexually molest her while she was at her last visit. I called both CPS agencies again and recieved the same response, niether thought they had jurisdiction over the situation. Did I give up and send my two daughters back into the lions den? HELL NO! I refused to send then, even telling thier father why I was doing so. I then made a trip to my daughters high school at my husbands urging and let them read what I had. They had taken similar writing from her at school. This meeting (with all her teachers, academic counselor, and the dean of girls at the school) was the turning point. The school contacted my local CPS agency who have been involved every since. There is now a no contact order and an order of protection for them against their father. The state is now in the process of taking his parental rights away because he has refused to do anything that they have asked him too. The moral of my story is "Protect your children first, deal with the legalities later!" By the way I would have gladly went to jail for violating a court order to ensure the safety of my children. 
 
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November 25, 2006, 9:08 pm PST

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Quote From: amichele9

I agree with almost everything you have said, but not about the mother.

She is under a court order to let the father have the child. What should she do?

Defy the law and go to jail? She is trying to get to the truth. She has not witnessed anything, personally.

We live in America, and as citizens, must obey the law, and fight our battles through the courts, under the law.

MikiC

Dr. Morgan spent a great deal of time in jail for hiding her daughter from her pedophile husband.  Her husband vehemently denied the allegations, and the combination of his insistance and his social position swayed the judge into insisting on unsupervised visitations.  Dr. Morgan knew, in her heart, that her husband was molesting her daughter, and her daughter never backed down from the allegations she made.  Dr. Morgan ended up giving her daughter to her parents and sending them all into hiding for years.  She went to prison for protecting her child.  Once her daughter turned 18, she came out of hiding and stands by her claims that her father molested her.

 

Law is good only if it is just.  Where children are concerned, there is rarely any justice.

 

I'd be interested to find out just how things turn out with this family.  I hope the molester is found out and punished, and Kaylee gets the therapy she needs.

 

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November 26, 2006, 1:10 pm PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Quote From: amichele9

I agree with almost everything you have said, but not about the mother.

She is under a court order to let the father have the child. What should she do?

Defy the law and go to jail? She is trying to get to the truth. She has not witnessed anything, personally.

We live in America, and as citizens, must obey the law, and fight our battles through the courts, under the law.

MikiC

The mother must protect her child and in doing so, must make the courts aware of the allegations of sexual molestation being made against him.  I would hope that the courts would then modify the custody agreement and visitation arrangements. 

 

 
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November 29, 2006, 5:32 am PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

Quote From: amichele9

I agree with almost everything you have said, but not about the mother.

She is under a court order to let the father have the child. What should she do?

Defy the law and go to jail? She is trying to get to the truth. She has not witnessed anything, personally.

We live in America, and as citizens, must obey the law, and fight our battles through the courts, under the law.

MikiC

 

I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with your statement.  If my son were to come to me and say "They touched my pee-pee" do you honestly think I would EVER let him near that person without constant adult supervision again?  Of course not. 

 

Any mother would tell  you that she would go to the ends of the Earth to protect her children, and in my opinion motherly intution is always right, no matter what.  If Kaylee's mother honestly believes that Kaylee is being molested by her father & she is truly not coaching her to make these statements (which I believe to be true because NO CHILD would make such statements) she should do whatever is necessary to protect her child. Period.

 

If I got that court order and I believed as a mother my child was being harmed, I'm sorry but I guess I would go to jail. If I had to flee the country I would do so.  Any mother with any amount of human decency would do that. Our court system is not always in the right.  I could NEVER live with myself knowing that I didn't do whatever was necessary to protect my son from his molester.

 


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