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November 26, 2006, 6:27 am PST

11/28 Jeremy Returns

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      As a mother who was recently in a similar situation I have to disagree with you MikiC. My ex husband was always verbally abusive to my children, and I had tried several different approaches to get something done (including taking online law courses). When he threw my then 14 yr. old daughter up against the wall I called his local law enforcement. They made him leave the house for the night but informed me that I could not pick my children up early without a court order. He lives in Alabama and I live in Tennessee and it was a holiday so that was an impossible thing to get. I called both my local CPS agency and his. I was told that neither one of them had jurisdiction. A year later, after their Thanksgiving holiday visit, I started noticing some very upsetting changes in  my then 15 yr. old daughter. She broke up with her boyfriend immediately upon her return and then pretty much just stayed in bed. She was clearly depressed but refused to talk about why. She was flunking out of her freshman yr. in high school. Still desperate to find the cause of her distress, I searched her bedroom. I found some disturbing pornographic writings which seemed to just be ramblings but occasionly made references to her father being a child molester. I then confronted her with the writings. What she told me put me in complete shock. Her father had tried to sexually molest her while she was at her last visit. I called both CPS agencies again and recieved the same response, niether thought they had jurisdiction over the situation. Did I give up and send my two daughters back into the lions den? HELL NO! I refused to send then, even telling thier father why I was doing so. I then made a trip to my daughters high school at my husbands urging and let them read what I had. They had taken similar writing from her at school. This meeting (with all her teachers, academic counselor, and the dean of girls at the school) was the turning point. The school contacted my local CPS agency who have been involved every since. There is now a no contact order and an order of protection for them against their father. The state is now in the process of taking his parental rights away because he has refused to do anything that they have asked him too. The moral of my story is "Protect your children first, deal with the legalities later!" By the way I would have gladly went to jail for violating a court order to ensure the safety of my children. 

That's good for you but your case and Kaylee while similar are very different. 

 

1.  Your ex lives in a different state, I believe Kaylee's parents live within the same county maybe same town

2.  You have physical proof daughter's letters  and previous police report of physical abuse

 

3 your daughter is 15 years old, Kaylee is 3

 

4.  you had CPS fighting for you once school got involved but you know even in your case, it went on for a long time.  Why did you send her back after he threw her into a wall?

 

5.  Please don't assume that Krista can do anything more than she is doing.

 

I would suggest that if one suspect abuse, they gather facts  and document and if the state allows them to move to move as far from the perpetrator as possible or with facts petition for an exparte order to protect the child.

 

If the child is of school age, have child speak to couselor or teacher, a report by them is taken more serious.  When a parent reports abuse, the other parent will claim it is a custody issue.  If you can get the child a cell phone and let them know that they should use it if ever in danger again.  If child is old enough, the child should be told call police asap as soon as safe to do so.

 

 

 
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November 29, 2006, 2:32 pm PST

Rock and hard place

Quote From: tennmomof4

      As a mother who was recently in a similar situation I have to disagree with you MikiC. My ex husband was always verbally abusive to my children, and I had tried several different approaches to get something done (including taking online law courses). When he threw my then 14 yr. old daughter up against the wall I called his local law enforcement. They made him leave the house for the night but informed me that I could not pick my children up early without a court order. He lives in Alabama and I live in Tennessee and it was a holiday so that was an impossible thing to get. I called both my local CPS agency and his. I was told that neither one of them had jurisdiction. A year later, after their Thanksgiving holiday visit, I started noticing some very upsetting changes in  my then 15 yr. old daughter. She broke up with her boyfriend immediately upon her return and then pretty much just stayed in bed. She was clearly depressed but refused to talk about why. She was flunking out of her freshman yr. in high school. Still desperate to find the cause of her distress, I searched her bedroom. I found some disturbing pornographic writings which seemed to just be ramblings but occasionly made references to her father being a child molester. I then confronted her with the writings. What she told me put me in complete shock. Her father had tried to sexually molest her while she was at her last visit. I called both CPS agencies again and recieved the same response, niether thought they had jurisdiction over the situation. Did I give up and send my two daughters back into the lions den? HELL NO! I refused to send then, even telling thier father why I was doing so. I then made a trip to my daughters high school at my husbands urging and let them read what I had. They had taken similar writing from her at school. This meeting (with all her teachers, academic counselor, and the dean of girls at the school) was the turning point. The school contacted my local CPS agency who have been involved every since. There is now a no contact order and an order of protection for them against their father. The state is now in the process of taking his parental rights away because he has refused to do anything that they have asked him too. The moral of my story is "Protect your children first, deal with the legalities later!" By the way I would have gladly went to jail for violating a court order to ensure the safety of my children. 
I understand where you are coming from but she has other children and she can not take them into hididng. If she were to go to jail for this her daughter would have to go live with this monster for the 30days she is in jail. Would you want your child alone with this man for 30 days? This is a horrible situation and I think that the system is failing this family and this little girl.
 


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