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December 9, 2006, 10:33 pm PST

12/15 Children of Addicts

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I'm looking forward to seeing this show.  I am the daughter of an alcoholic and have now been married to an alcoholic for 10 years.  My father is now a big part of my life, but never was there when I was growing up.  He has told me he never wanted a daughter and that's why he rejected me for so long.  I have been able to get past that with him and he is helping me with dealing with my husband who is an alcoholic.  I am a very good wife to this man and a very good mom.  I have been at home for 10 years now.  My husband is very mentally abusive when he is drunk and has over the past few years gotten physical with me.  His last stint, I finally had the courage to call the police, but a few weeks later, we were back together.  Again promise after promise was made and he did good for a short time, but he's heading back down that dreadful road again.  I love this man with all my heart and just can't seem to break away.  I'm depressed all the time and worry constantly about where he is and if he's going to come home drunk again now.  He's been the bread winner, if that's what you want to call barely making it month by month and in debt up to or ears.  He's always got an excuse as to why I can't work and when I did get a part time job at one point,  he would make sure he wasn't home in time to take care of the kids.  I ended up quitting the job.  After our last fight I finally told him I wouldn't go through with this again.  I have enrolled in my local college for a course in CNA training so that I can get a decent job and be able to support our kids and myself.  I have gone to counseling and we had been going to see our Pastor at church, but that stopped because he was tired of being told that his drinking was what our marriage problems were all about.  He has manipulated me into believing that our problems are not because of his drinking and that I'm to blame for most of them.  I know in my heart that that is not true.  I would have made him leave for good but I couldn't find a job and was afraid of not being able to support our kids and myself.  I have decided that I will start going back to church and would like to get Robins book.  This man tells me he loves me about 100 times a day and that we'll be together forever, but why does he keep hurting me???  I'm very confused and unsure where to go at this point.  Any insight would be nice.  Sorry so long....Thanks for listening.
It's great that you are taking steps to make yourself self-sufficient in the event you leave him (or kick him out) -- BUT, waiting until those things are in place is putting you and your kids in more danger.  Even though you have made up with your own father, you know from experience that growing up with an alcoholic parent (abusive or not) is not a good example or environment.  Based on the fact that you said he is abusive verbally and physically is a recipe for disaster -- you need to kick him out now.  Do not enable or tolerate his continued behavior.  No matter what, you and your kids are already being affected by your husband's drinking -- and your kids need and deserve to have a home environment where they feel safe and aren't always in survival mode, or wondering what's going to happen next.  And, your kids need to see you being strong for yourself and for them -- they are relying on you now more than ever -- lead by example.  What will happen if you try to stick it out?  Unpredictability of the abuse could leave them without a mother.  What will happen to them then? Believe me -- they don't want to be put in that situation because of the lame or bad choices you make now.  If you can't do it for yourself -- do it for your kids. You need to quit believing all the promises -- actions speak much louder than words.  Those promises are just a method to pacify you and get you to quit nagging for a while.  Until you see a sober husband for a significant length of time, do not live in the same house with him -- for your sake and for your kids sake.  A few weeks here and there is simply not enough.  Through all the nagging, arguing, yelling, crying, dragging him to counseling -- whatever -- you cannot fix him.  It is not your fault.  He needs to recognize his problem, and do whatever is necessary to bring himself to back to sobriety -- especially if he wants to get back to living in the same house with his family.  Support him emotionally in his recovery.  His chosen actions will eventually make or break him.  In the meantime, you and the kids will be safe.  Both of my parents were alcoholics and I very much wish that a sober and responsible adult had stood up for me when I was a kid -- acting like they cared and/or had an interest in me, my sanity and my safety.  Your first priority is protecting yourself and your kids -- now.  Good luck to you.
 
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December 10, 2006, 10:11 pm PST

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I'm looking forward to seeing this show.  I am the daughter of an alcoholic and have now been married to an alcoholic for 10 years.  My father is now a big part of my life, but never was there when I was growing up.  He has told me he never wanted a daughter and that's why he rejected me for so long.  I have been able to get past that with him and he is helping me with dealing with my husband who is an alcoholic.  I am a very good wife to this man and a very good mom.  I have been at home for 10 years now.  My husband is very mentally abusive when he is drunk and has over the past few years gotten physical with me.  His last stint, I finally had the courage to call the police, but a few weeks later, we were back together.  Again promise after promise was made and he did good for a short time, but he's heading back down that dreadful road again.  I love this man with all my heart and just can't seem to break away.  I'm depressed all the time and worry constantly about where he is and if he's going to come home drunk again now.  He's been the bread winner, if that's what you want to call barely making it month by month and in debt up to or ears.  He's always got an excuse as to why I can't work and when I did get a part time job at one point,  he would make sure he wasn't home in time to take care of the kids.  I ended up quitting the job.  After our last fight I finally told him I wouldn't go through with this again.  I have enrolled in my local college for a course in CNA training so that I can get a decent job and be able to support our kids and myself.  I have gone to counseling and we had been going to see our Pastor at church, but that stopped because he was tired of being told that his drinking was what our marriage problems were all about.  He has manipulated me into believing that our problems are not because of his drinking and that I'm to blame for most of them.  I know in my heart that that is not true.  I would have made him leave for good but I couldn't find a job and was afraid of not being able to support our kids and myself.  I have decided that I will start going back to church and would like to get Robins book.  This man tells me he loves me about 100 times a day and that we'll be together forever, but why does he keep hurting me???  I'm very confused and unsure where to go at this point.  Any insight would be nice.  Sorry so long....Thanks for listening.

Wow, alot of what you wrote sounds like my life. My husband of 26 years is a son of a alcoholic,  which I did not learn until after we were married. I never ever noticed a drinking problem until we moved away from family and friends across the U.S to the south. My older brother actually pointed it out to me. Finally, I began to look closely and monitor his behavior.  In the last 6 years, his drinking has escaluated.  His moods change and is very verbally abusive. Several times he even has gotten physical and finally found the courage to call the police. He blames me for everything and our 2 kids believe him. I feel so alone, not knowing who to speak to.

We have gone to counseling, and the counselor wanted him to go to Anger Management classes, but he refused to go and said why should he go when he knows what the problem is. Me!  Our counselor suggested I speak to his mother about this, but she basically told me she couldn't /wouldn't help, that I should not get a divorce because of the children.  I have been very open to all the suggestions my counselor has provided, but I told her it's too difficult to do it one sided.  She told me that "you chose him." That really hurt me.  I didn't know how to respond,  I know that, but I came for you for help.

 

My husband is not a great father at all, my 15 yr old son is actively smoking marijuana and my husband thinks it's my fault he's smoking. He basically has taken a back seat to the whole thing. He will do anything for the kids, not making them into responsible individuals.  He lets them do whatever. He would never ask who they would hang out with, what time they are coming home, etc., all the normal things a parent does. When I step in, I am labeled the Bitch and causing trouble.  He says I am being selfish and a bitch. When the kids talk back to me or call me horrible horrible names, he does nothing about it. Mute to the whole situation. I really can't take it anymore.  I have lost everything that I love. My husband has ruined my relationship with my two kids, 20 and 15. I have been laid off from a couple of jobs and cannot find anything because I do not speak spanish. I feel so captive to my husband and his abuse. All this talk about what to do is so scary.  I want to start to expose my husband's behavior to his co-workers, friends and his extended family. Should I do this, or am I heading into MORE TROUBLE?  We all can't go on the Dr. PHil show, but I need some help.  I am so sorry for the rampling on and on. But, this is the first time I have had the chance to talk about this where someone will understand. Thanks,

 
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December 15, 2006, 3:18 pm PST

12/15 Children of Addicts

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I'm looking forward to seeing this show.  I am the daughter of an alcoholic and have now been married to an alcoholic for 10 years.  My father is now a big part of my life, but never was there when I was growing up.  He has told me he never wanted a daughter and that's why he rejected me for so long.  I have been able to get past that with him and he is helping me with dealing with my husband who is an alcoholic.  I am a very good wife to this man and a very good mom.  I have been at home for 10 years now.  My husband is very mentally abusive when he is drunk and has over the past few years gotten physical with me.  His last stint, I finally had the courage to call the police, but a few weeks later, we were back together.  Again promise after promise was made and he did good for a short time, but he's heading back down that dreadful road again.  I love this man with all my heart and just can't seem to break away.  I'm depressed all the time and worry constantly about where he is and if he's going to come home drunk again now.  He's been the bread winner, if that's what you want to call barely making it month by month and in debt up to or ears.  He's always got an excuse as to why I can't work and when I did get a part time job at one point,  he would make sure he wasn't home in time to take care of the kids.  I ended up quitting the job.  After our last fight I finally told him I wouldn't go through with this again.  I have enrolled in my local college for a course in CNA training so that I can get a decent job and be able to support our kids and myself.  I have gone to counseling and we had been going to see our Pastor at church, but that stopped because he was tired of being told that his drinking was what our marriage problems were all about.  He has manipulated me into believing that our problems are not because of his drinking and that I'm to blame for most of them.  I know in my heart that that is not true.  I would have made him leave for good but I couldn't find a job and was afraid of not being able to support our kids and myself.  I have decided that I will start going back to church and would like to get Robins book.  This man tells me he loves me about 100 times a day and that we'll be together forever, but why does he keep hurting me???  I'm very confused and unsure where to go at this point.  Any insight would be nice.  Sorry so long....Thanks for listening.
Have you heard of Alonon??It helps a lot of people with the issues you are talking about.
 
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December 15, 2006, 5:29 pm PST

12/15 Children of Addicts

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I'm looking forward to seeing this show.  I am the daughter of an alcoholic and have now been married to an alcoholic for 10 years.  My father is now a big part of my life, but never was there when I was growing up.  He has told me he never wanted a daughter and that's why he rejected me for so long.  I have been able to get past that with him and he is helping me with dealing with my husband who is an alcoholic.  I am a very good wife to this man and a very good mom.  I have been at home for 10 years now.  My husband is very mentally abusive when he is drunk and has over the past few years gotten physical with me.  His last stint, I finally had the courage to call the police, but a few weeks later, we were back together.  Again promise after promise was made and he did good for a short time, but he's heading back down that dreadful road again.  I love this man with all my heart and just can't seem to break away.  I'm depressed all the time and worry constantly about where he is and if he's going to come home drunk again now.  He's been the bread winner, if that's what you want to call barely making it month by month and in debt up to or ears.  He's always got an excuse as to why I can't work and when I did get a part time job at one point,  he would make sure he wasn't home in time to take care of the kids.  I ended up quitting the job.  After our last fight I finally told him I wouldn't go through with this again.  I have enrolled in my local college for a course in CNA training so that I can get a decent job and be able to support our kids and myself.  I have gone to counseling and we had been going to see our Pastor at church, but that stopped because he was tired of being told that his drinking was what our marriage problems were all about.  He has manipulated me into believing that our problems are not because of his drinking and that I'm to blame for most of them.  I know in my heart that that is not true.  I would have made him leave for good but I couldn't find a job and was afraid of not being able to support our kids and myself.  I have decided that I will start going back to church and would like to get Robins book.  This man tells me he loves me about 100 times a day and that we'll be together forever, but why does he keep hurting me???  I'm very confused and unsure where to go at this point.  Any insight would be nice.  Sorry so long....Thanks for listening.

Dear, you need to get yourself to an Al-Anon meeting.  Take your life back, that doesn't neccessarily mean divorce.  In those rooms you can learn to lead a happier, healthier life with or without the alcoholic, whether he is still drinking or not.  You owe it to yourself and to your kids to become a healthy, productive person.

Your first reaction when you see these happy reassured people will probably be "there is no way they've been where I am."  But belive it, they have!  I was too. In Al-Anon I took a good hard look at my life - good, bad & ugly - and took it all back.  Today I am so much happier, better able to cope, and unafraid of my future. 

And the change in you may help your children and husband as well.

 
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December 15, 2006, 9:59 pm PST

Don't wait- GET OUT!!!

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I'm looking forward to seeing this show.  I am the daughter of an alcoholic and have now been married to an alcoholic for 10 years.  My father is now a big part of my life, but never was there when I was growing up.  He has told me he never wanted a daughter and that's why he rejected me for so long.  I have been able to get past that with him and he is helping me with dealing with my husband who is an alcoholic.  I am a very good wife to this man and a very good mom.  I have been at home for 10 years now.  My husband is very mentally abusive when he is drunk and has over the past few years gotten physical with me.  His last stint, I finally had the courage to call the police, but a few weeks later, we were back together.  Again promise after promise was made and he did good for a short time, but he's heading back down that dreadful road again.  I love this man with all my heart and just can't seem to break away.  I'm depressed all the time and worry constantly about where he is and if he's going to come home drunk again now.  He's been the bread winner, if that's what you want to call barely making it month by month and in debt up to or ears.  He's always got an excuse as to why I can't work and when I did get a part time job at one point,  he would make sure he wasn't home in time to take care of the kids.  I ended up quitting the job.  After our last fight I finally told him I wouldn't go through with this again.  I have enrolled in my local college for a course in CNA training so that I can get a decent job and be able to support our kids and myself.  I have gone to counseling and we had been going to see our Pastor at church, but that stopped because he was tired of being told that his drinking was what our marriage problems were all about.  He has manipulated me into believing that our problems are not because of his drinking and that I'm to blame for most of them.  I know in my heart that that is not true.  I would have made him leave for good but I couldn't find a job and was afraid of not being able to support our kids and myself.  I have decided that I will start going back to church and would like to get Robins book.  This man tells me he loves me about 100 times a day and that we'll be together forever, but why does he keep hurting me???  I'm very confused and unsure where to go at this point.  Any insight would be nice.  Sorry so long....Thanks for listening.
What will happen to your kids if he kills you during one of his drunken 'stints'???  He may or may not ever stop drinking, that is his problem.  YOU have an obligation as those children's mother to protect them.  I have been in your shoes so I can say with absolute certainty that there IS life after an alcoholic and you have to go for it!  Get your kids and get out!  There is almost nothing in this world that they did not make two of so the stuff can be replaced.  You and your children's hearts cannot.  Don't wait for the police or a neighbor to find you beaten and too screwed up in the head to take care of your little ones.  IF he loved you he would NEVER do the things that he is doing.  IF he loved you he would not talk about getting help, he would get it, IF he loved you, you would not have written to the show.  Trust God, He loves you.  Take a giant leap of faith and know that you and your babies will be better off.  I know, it's true, I lived it.  I am praying for you and all of the folks that have emailed in about tonights show.   
 
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December 16, 2006, 1:51 pm PST

12/15 Children of Addicts

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I'm looking forward to seeing this show.  I am the daughter of an alcoholic and have now been married to an alcoholic for 10 years.  My father is now a big part of my life, but never was there when I was growing up.  He has told me he never wanted a daughter and that's why he rejected me for so long.  I have been able to get past that with him and he is helping me with dealing with my husband who is an alcoholic.  I am a very good wife to this man and a very good mom.  I have been at home for 10 years now.  My husband is very mentally abusive when he is drunk and has over the past few years gotten physical with me.  His last stint, I finally had the courage to call the police, but a few weeks later, we were back together.  Again promise after promise was made and he did good for a short time, but he's heading back down that dreadful road again.  I love this man with all my heart and just can't seem to break away.  I'm depressed all the time and worry constantly about where he is and if he's going to come home drunk again now.  He's been the bread winner, if that's what you want to call barely making it month by month and in debt up to or ears.  He's always got an excuse as to why I can't work and when I did get a part time job at one point,  he would make sure he wasn't home in time to take care of the kids.  I ended up quitting the job.  After our last fight I finally told him I wouldn't go through with this again.  I have enrolled in my local college for a course in CNA training so that I can get a decent job and be able to support our kids and myself.  I have gone to counseling and we had been going to see our Pastor at church, but that stopped because he was tired of being told that his drinking was what our marriage problems were all about.  He has manipulated me into believing that our problems are not because of his drinking and that I'm to blame for most of them.  I know in my heart that that is not true.  I would have made him leave for good but I couldn't find a job and was afraid of not being able to support our kids and myself.  I have decided that I will start going back to church and would like to get Robins book.  This man tells me he loves me about 100 times a day and that we'll be together forever, but why does he keep hurting me???  I'm very confused and unsure where to go at this point.  Any insight would be nice.  Sorry so long....Thanks for listening.

Don't apologize that your story is too long but  I do think that you have been in this kind of relationship for too long. I'm not going to pretend that I know, expertly, issues on marital dischord combined with domestic violence and alcoholic spouse. But I can enlighten you a little bit about alcoholics.

 

Very briefly, I am an alcoholic. I've been clean and sober for over three years. Yup, that it, just three years. I drank 2 times but it lasted over 34 years. I thought I knew everything about drinking until I got busted 2 times for drinking & driving within an 18 month period at age of 52 and 53.  So, I had to get re-educated about drinking but this time in a sober state.

 

I took down some notes as I was reading your post. This helps me to get to know you a little better. First, the bad stuff. He's mentally abusive toward you when he's drunk. Last few years he's been "physical" with you. Called the police one time but you got back together? Promises, Promises, Promises--can't forget those promises that he keeps forgetting. You're depressed and worried that he'll come home drunk? You had to give up your job because he would not watch the kids? He manipulated you into believing that your were the problem and not his drinking. You would have made him leave but afraid you'd not be able to support your kids? He tells you he loves you 100x a day but he continues to hurt you? This last statement that you share REALLY, REALLY SCARES ME: he says, "We'll be together forever"!!!!

 

Now for the good news: Your alcoholic dad is helping you deal with your alcoholic husband.You love this man with all your heart (if you want to call that good news). You're enrolled in college. Was seeing your Pastor. You know in your heart that YOU are not the problem. Did I miss anything??

 

You say you are very confused and unsure on which direction to take this. Talk more with your dad about general characteristics of alcoholics. What is he doing for you now?  Your husband is in TOTAL DENIAL about his drinking. The guy is beating you up mentally, emotionally and physically. HE'S BEATING UP ON YOU!! Your kids....they're getting beat up on, not just by their father but also by you. I don't thing that at anytime soon your husband is going to wake up one morning and say, "Gee, I've got a drinking problem and I better get some help". Don't count your blessing, good lady that you are. Something very, very drastic needs to occur before your husband sees the grim reality of what he is doing to himself, first, and than what he and his drinking is doing to his family. I'm sure their are other people who are also concerned.

 

Here's the reality check for you, lady. You are going to have to step up to the plate. Sorry, but that is your reality check. You are not doing this just to salvage your well-being but also that of your children's welfare. I'm telling you, HE IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. Your husband needs help, pronto. You need help, like yesterday.

 

I urge you to check into Al-anon. It can help. Not for him but for you.

 

Good Luck.  Peace

 

 

 

 


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