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December 15, 2006, 10:13 am PST

Tammy can you please explain further ?

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normally I would agree with all of you but since it was me on the show I can tell you its not what you think..we DO NOT do this in front of our children..They were not there for any of this..my husband suggested we have them wittness, and I ofcourse said hell no!!!..they had no idea of what was going on and havent ever known..we have strived for our children to grow and function without including them in our issues....I did not leave my kids every night for hours a day...I left the few times things were heated so we DIDNT fight in front of them..they thought I was at work...Every family in America has issues and we are not the only family..we have had 17 yrs of normal family activity..as far as the physical things they were yrs ago before we had children...no one has been physical in 15 years, the forgot to put that in or even discuss that....things in our marriage took a turn in October and have been rocky ever since...before that we were a normal family with normal issues....my kids are honor roll students, they are in activities outside of school and excel in all of them. ..The spagetti over the head was 15 yrs ago..he has not been physical since and a woman pointed out I gave as good as I got and I did...I never tried to play victom here...I did give as good as I got...15 yrs ago!!

Tammy could you please explain further? 

 

How can all the control on your husband's part continue without it happening in front of the kids...and the without the kids knowing....I don't get that.....kids are perceptive and all knowing.  Most especially when there's an imbalance of power in the family. 

 

And if he, your husband treats you in that manner .... how is it .....that it doesn't carry over to the kids.....does he suddenly become "father of the year?"  I don't see how.

 

There's a big difference between normal family issues in America.....and your issues ...in your family.....after all the title of the show was "Living Extreme Lives."

 

This control and abuse is NOT a normal family issue.....its an issue of dysfunction and is Domestic Abuse and Violence.......you say the violence was 15 years ago......then are you saying his cycle doesn't include physical violence and abuse any longer......but all the rest of the dynamics of ABUSE ARE IN PLACE.

 

To me this is a huge deal breaker...............and abusers rarely go to....continue going......or do their WORK in any counseling.......so why bother..........he wasn't even admitting to any of this in front of Phil................I heard husband  minimize, deny, justify, and blame you. 

 

And dear Tammy.......your conduct was less than that of self-respect and  wasn't immaginable to me......where was your dignity....were you so beaten down emotionally that you were not listening  to your own value system rather than that of your husband...a 3some...were you under severe battered women's syndrome?    Where was the rational in any of this?   Was your life threatened by the fear of him, then.   What? 

 

Why did you make a choice to please an abuser and have and participate in a 3some......I will never understand......unless there were severe circumstances that prompted you to "just survive" by going along.   And the affairs......why?  

 

How did your husband's abuse and control over you and your family change....as you say?

 

What was normal before October?

 

What happened in October?

 

Did things take a change for the worse then because to him.....you were no longer participating in his antics, tactics, games and abuse along with him.???  Perhaps you decided to change and he then used to the latter.........upped his ante?   Please if at all possible please explain all this......as  what you're saying here does not jive with the show.

 

Are you minimizing you life with this man, now.  Are you minimizing the stuff that goes on?  What?  I don't get it !

 

The good Doc...........suggests that you either DIVORCE IMMEDIATELY.........or the counseling....which he knows better than to have you guys in joint counseling sessions at this point.........so what is it that he saw that we are not privy to........by your post here.

 

Your post here confuses me.

 

Please come back and explain and post further.

 

Haven't you posted to the abuse message board in the past?

 

 

Lots of questions on my part.

 

PS........how are things going now.

 

Not to negate your children's accomplishments in school and on the extracurricular level.....they are doing wonderfully there in those departments.........however, be careful what you use for a barometer for measurement............many a child......is an honor roll student......and active in sports, theater, music, art..student govt. ..all the extras and yet................while being the ones least expected  from outward appearance ,of problems...........are the ones into drugs.....drinking, alcohol, before the legal age.....sex.......bullying and the like.

 

I hope and trust that your children are not........but beware..........the doc seemed to be most concerned for the children.......and well he should be.......however, then again.....maybe that was the only way to reach your husband..........as nothing else did.

 

I write this out of concern and wanting further understanding.

 

 

 
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December 15, 2006, 10:46 am PST

then why did you go on the show?

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normally I would agree with all of you but since it was me on the show I can tell you its not what you think..we DO NOT do this in front of our children..They were not there for any of this..my husband suggested we have them wittness, and I ofcourse said hell no!!!..they had no idea of what was going on and havent ever known..we have strived for our children to grow and function without including them in our issues....I did not leave my kids every night for hours a day...I left the few times things were heated so we DIDNT fight in front of them..they thought I was at work...Every family in America has issues and we are not the only family..we have had 17 yrs of normal family activity..as far as the physical things they were yrs ago before we had children...no one has been physical in 15 years, the forgot to put that in or even discuss that....things in our marriage took a turn in October and have been rocky ever since...before that we were a normal family with normal issues....my kids are honor roll students, they are in activities outside of school and excel in all of them. ..The spagetti over the head was 15 yrs ago..he has not been physical since and a woman pointed out I gave as good as I got and I did...I never tried to play victom here...I did give as good as I got...15 yrs ago!!

If things have been peachy keen and all of the problems were in the past then why did you discuss it on the show. It seems a bit disingenuous to go on the show and then say, "oh those things are not a problem."

 

To that end, don't for a minute think your kids don't know that your marriage is an unhealthy one.  You may think that because they are on honor roll that things are fine for them but it isn't. If you are having affairs, sleeping in another room and going on Dr. Phil then they are not living in a healthy loving home. Many children that grow up in homes such as yours excel at everything they do because that is the only thing they can control.

 

 

 


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