You know, Tyra Banks I think is pretty, but has anyone seen her without make-up on? I don't think we always see the models without their makeup on...I think some are beautiful with or without and some I think would surprise ppl how ordinary they look...But, for those that don't need makeup sure are lucky...and you're right Turk, that's a 'real' compliment when/if someone a man says you look 'good' or beautiful without it...In my two relationships, both guys said I looked 'beautiful' when I woke up...and I wasn't sure if they were just being 'nice' 'sweet' etc. etc...and even when I was sick, they said I looked beautiful...So, I believe that for those that really care about you/love you, they will say that...and it's not to feed you a line, they really mean it...it's the beauty they see in that person...that person TO THEM is beautiful and mostly because of their insides...the outside sure is what attracts first, BUT it's the insides that continue on in that relationship..and I think I posted this before, but I believe a man can see a 'hot' woman/model and that's it...their 'hot'.....BUT, it's the 'one' they want to spend their time/life with is what they really are looking for...WE women, we're not that different in that aspect...We see 'male' models, and movie actors/singers etc..and we say 'wow, they're cute (my word for 'hot') but, it doesn't mean we want to find someone like that, to spend the rest of our lives...Women we need to start postings on what guys we think are 'hot'...What are yours? and Men, ok post who you think is a 'hot' woman...hot to them...I'll start...Well, let me think about this.....there's so many lol...I think I look at their looks of course, but mostly I think it's just they way they carry themselves...when listening to their interviews...Like, ok..I USE TO think Matthew Ma......ummm can't spell..he's the one in Failure to Launch...I think he's SO CUTE!! and I like he sense of humor, his sexyness...BUT, when I heard him being interviewed...that changed alittle..Doesn't mean he's not still 'hot' though......but, he wouldn't be one of my picks, to say IF you can have 1 lunch with a star..who would it be? Who would it be to you all out their? Men? Women? I think Brad Pitt is very good looking too...but, I think I just like their looks and acting...I like the way some Male Country singers look..can't say their names right off the bat, because I'm just sort of getting into it...Faith Hill's husband, he's 'cute'..I guess, I like that look in a man..like the Country singers...I love Gosh Groban...then, he was on the radio station I listen to ...they interviewed him, and I really like what he had to say...So, he might be the one I'd like to have lunch with...I like the modest type, quite but can also have a sense of humor...very greatful in life, and alittle shy...but, not too shy...not a 'loud' mouth...So, I can't think of anyone right at the moment..but, I think it would be Josh Groban...and it's not his looks, but it's his personality and that is whom I would like to go to lunch with, IF I had the chance... Dee