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December 30, 2006, 7:44 am PST
 Quote From: omgwhocares Well since you asked, no, my time is just more in demand with the Holidays. I am a Christian and yes I celebrate Christmas. We believe the birth of Christ is something to be happy about. We believe the exchange of gifts teaches a valuable lesson- better to give than to receive. Spending time with my parents is precious to me. All in all, I will pray for those like yourself who are too wrapped up in the negative to see any good. Thanks I can use some prayers. I may have been too blunt, but I really was curious about this.
As for my finances, you have no idea where I live, what I earn or how I spend so to pass judgment is really way off. Other than you live in CA, and mentioned the size of your home and your equity... you are right, I know very little about your situation as you know little of mine. But, you keep implying you know your household pays more taxes or a higher rate.
I was referring to people who take from the system and do not pay in. Period. If you dont' understand this basic knowledge I again will pray for you. Again, thanks for that prayers and I must have missed the point.
FYI- to invest takes money...where does money come from initially? For most, it's working. Yes, as the saying goes "it take money to make money" Which is how poverty winds up cycling.
Investing is much like gambling and I don't think that's really a wise way to "spend" my money. No, investing is loaning money to people or companies that you think will utilize it to do or create something; where gambling is just a game. I didn't mean to encourage you to spend money in an area you feel is inappropriate. I prefer to save and be frugal. My hubby and I are very proud of our "debt free" life (house excluded) and the steps we've taken to get there. Most young couples with two kids cannot claim almost zero debt and an affordable house payment anywhere near our area. Most American can't claim it at all. And not to rile you up, but I have to ask about your word choice proud... isn't that a sin?
The attitude of providing for those who choose not to work is not one I share. I do many things for my community and will help anyone trying to help themselves. It's similar to the "making fishers of men" attitude. That is a very good point
For a parent to stay home, talk down to working families while they collect from the system the working pay into...yes, that's a problem. It is rampant in my state and quite honestly I don't think I like paying for someone else's children while they look down on me. It's not how I was raised and I won't raise my kids that way. Ok, now I get where you are coming from on this. This seems to be an issue all over, I doubt it's just your state or your situation. I get really irritated when people look down on me for my choices with raising my children, and my career choices and that happens with relative frequency . Really it's just none of their business.
And yes its a double insult to be treated poorly by someone you are trying to help.
First off, I would pretty much bet that my household having two incomes pays more taxes than a single income house. That's just basic math. If you yourself don't earn a check or any type of income that is taxed the taxes paid by your house are simply propetry taxes and whatever else you buy assuming your state has sales tax. However, with two incomes to tax there is more going into the system. At this point, if I stopped working, there are many things my family would not be eligible for even though we have paid in for many many years. If my husband got hurt and needed surgery (which he does the end of Jan.) we have to save the $$ before he can go under the knife.
Investing, as you pointed out, is not a guarantee of more money to be returned. I prefer to "spend" my money in a more secure manner. Whether it be gambling or poor investing, to me, I don't have money at this point to lose.
Last, to address yoru point about me being proud. Yes, pride is a sin and that is something I am working on with God. I can bet since you are not in His kingdom just yet you have a few sins going on in your own life. I asked my hubby just now about being proud and I guess my word choice wasn't 100% accurate. (BTW, since you are very concerned with perfection I will do my best) My feeling about our situation is this: I am truly gratefeul to God for all He has provided. I know it can be much worse as my hubby and I have both struggled in the past. We have two great kids - one of who attends a public school and is excelling. I get irritated when people bash the public school system as I have many dear friends who have dedicated their lives to teaching and are doing a great job. Not all families should homeschool and unschooling (to me) is not anything I understand or see as effective. I work hard to provide for my kids- never have taken a dime of welfare although I have paid in (without choice) for all my working life. People do not appreciate what I do for my kids but in part the ones who don't see it don't really matter. Meaning, they are not part of my life and since they are not here they cannot fathom what I do for my family. I'm not sure where you stand on th is subject but I can see we disagree and that is fine. You don't live my life and I certainly don't live yours. However, when ANY family is dependent on public assistance for the survival of their family, they should be grateful to those who make that $$ available for them and not look down on those who in essence are providing things they cannot- for whatever reason. I know if things were different for my family, I would be grateful for ANY help that came our way regardless of the package. |
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