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July 26, 2005, 9:00 pm PDT

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My husband and I have been arguing all day. It first started when I woke up to see that our 7month old son had no formula and my husband took ALL the money to work with him except what he had in our safety deposit box at home. I got in it and got some money out to get our son some formula because I could not get intouch with my husband. When my husband finally called I had already left the house so I told him what I did and he got very mad at me for taking the money(even though it was to get our son formula). When he got mad and started yelling at me over the phone I told him that I have had it with his attitude and told him I was going to leave so we (me and our kids) wouldnt be such an incovience to him anymore. When I got home to get some stuff together he wasnt here so I had some time to cool off and think about things before I left. I found out he had taken ALL the money in the safety box to work with him well he took the whole box. On top of him not helping me with the kids and the household chores he wants to be an ass about the money and stuff. I am so stressed out all the time i find myself crying. I wrote my husband an email to tell him we needed to sit down and talk about our problems. When he got home he read it and I basically wasted my time and made my carpal tunnel flare up by typing it. He didnt want to talk about anything he just wanted to sit infront of the computer and let people tell him how to spend his money(money that we dont really have). I asked him to get up and pick his military gear up and put all of it in one spot...That doesnt get done he is sleeping in the recliner right now like I never asked him to do anything. I am at my wits end. I dont know what to do. He doesnt want to talk about our problems he never wants to spend anytime together. He would rather sleep than spend time with his family. I need some help....Do I leave and make him realize he has a great family? or do I wait and see if things will get better. I have left before but he told me he was going to kill himself so all of our money problems will go away and our kids will never have to want for anything because if he dies I get 250,000 $. That just broke my heart because I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. HELP ME PLEASE!!!
this guy is manipulating you to stay and be treated like crap. he is very self centered and has no respect for you and your family, you need to step up to the plate and quit letting him treat you like this. Now, I believe in marriage 100% and believe that it takes two to make it strong and healthy but I also believe that it only takes one to get the ball rolling and I agree with what Dr. Phil says, that one should earn their way out of the marriage, meaning that you need to do everything possible, in your power to make things work. Go to counseling whether he agrees to go or not, let him know on a regular basis how you feel about him and the situation and what you are doing to help your marriage. Maybe get Dr. Phils relationship rescue book and read it whether he reads it with you or not. Actions speak louder then words and mabe if he sees you making some effort, maybe he will change. And if need to leave him, I am not saying divorce, as I believe that is a cop out for most people.I think if you threaten to leave then you need to do it, it could be a big eye opener to him, don't let him manipulate you by telling you things he is gonna do or whatever, that is nothing but a cop out. Marriage is about love and respect and honor and it it isn't there, then the marriage will fail but I have seen many failed marriages actually work out, it is possible but takes a lot of work, do your part but yet, don't let him manipulate you, make him own up to his choices and his part of the marriage, then in the end no matter what happens, you will be able to stand tall and know that you did everything possible to save your marriage. It can be hard at times, pray and follow your heart and do your part.
 
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July 27, 2005, 12:23 pm PDT

Yikes...

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My husband and I have been arguing all day. It first started when I woke up to see that our 7month old son had no formula and my husband took ALL the money to work with him except what he had in our safety deposit box at home. I got in it and got some money out to get our son some formula because I could not get intouch with my husband. When my husband finally called I had already left the house so I told him what I did and he got very mad at me for taking the money(even though it was to get our son formula). When he got mad and started yelling at me over the phone I told him that I have had it with his attitude and told him I was going to leave so we (me and our kids) wouldnt be such an incovience to him anymore. When I got home to get some stuff together he wasnt here so I had some time to cool off and think about things before I left. I found out he had taken ALL the money in the safety box to work with him well he took the whole box.  On top of him not helping me with the kids and the household chores he wants to be an ass about the money and stuff. I am so stressed out all the time i find myself crying. I wrote my husband an email to tell him we needed to sit down and talk about our problems. When he got home he read it and I basically wasted my time and made my carpal tunnel flare up by typing it. He didnt want to talk about anything he just wanted to sit infront of the computer and let people tell him how to spend his money(money that we dont really have). I asked him to get up and pick his military gear up and put all of it in one spot...That doesnt get done he is sleeping in the recliner right now like I never asked him to do anything. I am at my wits end. I dont know what to do. He doesnt want to talk about our problems he never wants to spend anytime together. He would rather sleep than spend time with his family.  I need some help....Do I leave and make him realize he has a great family? or do I wait and see if things will get better. I have left before but he told me he was going to kill himself so all of our money problems will go away and our kids will never have to want for anything because if he dies I get 250,000 $. That just broke my heart because I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. HELP ME PLEASE!!!

I think you have a right to your anger.

 

I also think that neither you nor your hubby should do anything until you have calmed down.

 

It sounds as though you feel your partner is not making his own children a priority.  From where I'm sitting (here looking at the pictures of my kids on my desk) if my partner can't do that, then he is NO partner to me.

 

There are some lines that MUST be drawn DEEP in the sand.

 

If you have a partner who is unwilling or uncapable of being a TRUE partner, then you have NO marriage.

 

I also suggest that you re-read your insurance policy because many policy will NOT pay if it's a suicide.  Oh, and the next time he threatens to kill himself (emotional BLACKMAIL), tell him that you will call the police because you take threats SERIOUSLY.  When my Ex did that, he had to do some FAST talking to keep his counselor from COMMITTING him to the psych ward.

 

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October 10, 2005, 10:07 pm PDT

Balancing Marriage and Family

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My husband and I have been arguing all day. It first started when I woke up to see that our 7month old son had no formula and my husband took ALL the money to work with him except what he had in our safety deposit box at home. I got in it and got some money out to get our son some formula because I could not get intouch with my husband. When my husband finally called I had already left the house so I told him what I did and he got very mad at me for taking the money(even though it was to get our son formula). When he got mad and started yelling at me over the phone I told him that I have had it with his attitude and told him I was going to leave so we (me and our kids) wouldnt be such an incovience to him anymore. When I got home to get some stuff together he wasnt here so I had some time to cool off and think about things before I left. I found out he had taken ALL the money in the safety box to work with him well he took the whole box.  On top of him not helping me with the kids and the household chores he wants to be an ass about the money and stuff. I am so stressed out all the time i find myself crying. I wrote my husband an email to tell him we needed to sit down and talk about our problems. When he got home he read it and I basically wasted my time and made my carpal tunnel flare up by typing it. He didnt want to talk about anything he just wanted to sit infront of the computer and let people tell him how to spend his money(money that we dont really have). I asked him to get up and pick his military gear up and put all of it in one spot...That doesnt get done he is sleeping in the recliner right now like I never asked him to do anything. I am at my wits end. I dont know what to do. He doesnt want to talk about our problems he never wants to spend anytime together. He would rather sleep than spend time with his family.  I need some help....Do I leave and make him realize he has a great family? or do I wait and see if things will get better. I have left before but he told me he was going to kill himself so all of our money problems will go away and our kids will never have to want for anything because if he dies I get 250,000 $. That just broke my heart because I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. HELP ME PLEASE!!!

You have every right to feel the way you do. And with that, don't let him manipulate you into staying. If he uses the excuse about killing himself then inform him that the insurance won't pay if it is suicide so therefore not only would he be adding more grief to yours and your children's life, you would still have your money situation. I noticed that you said something about his "military gear." The military offers all kinds of programs where you can get counseling for free. They even have financial counseling. If he refuses to go then at least you can walk away knowing you did everything you could to save your marriage. I don't know what branch of the military you are but if you will get in contact with your post inspector general (IG) then they can tell you who you need to get in contact with to set up the counseling. It is worth a shot. Good luck to you and take care. 

 
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August 1, 2006, 3:33 am PDT

Best advice yet

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My husband and I have been arguing all day. It first started when I woke up to see that our 7month old son had no formula and my husband took ALL the money to work with him except what he had in our safety deposit box at home. I got in it and got some money out to get our son some formula because I could not get intouch with my husband. When my husband finally called I had already left the house so I told him what I did and he got very mad at me for taking the money(even though it was to get our son formula). When he got mad and started yelling at me over the phone I told him that I have had it with his attitude and told him I was going to leave so we (me and our kids) wouldnt be such an incovience to him anymore. When I got home to get some stuff together he wasnt here so I had some time to cool off and think about things before I left. I found out he had taken ALL the money in the safety box to work with him well he took the whole box.  On top of him not helping me with the kids and the household chores he wants to be an ass about the money and stuff. I am so stressed out all the time i find myself crying. I wrote my husband an email to tell him we needed to sit down and talk about our problems. When he got home he read it and I basically wasted my time and made my carpal tunnel flare up by typing it. He didnt want to talk about anything he just wanted to sit infront of the computer and let people tell him how to spend his money(money that we dont really have). I asked him to get up and pick his military gear up and put all of it in one spot...That doesnt get done he is sleeping in the recliner right now like I never asked him to do anything. I am at my wits end. I dont know what to do. He doesnt want to talk about our problems he never wants to spend anytime together. He would rather sleep than spend time with his family.  I need some help....Do I leave and make him realize he has a great family? or do I wait and see if things will get better. I have left before but he told me he was going to kill himself so all of our money problems will go away and our kids will never have to want for anything because if he dies I get 250,000 $. That just broke my heart because I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. HELP ME PLEASE!!!
I read that you told him to pick up his military gear. Have you tried a support group with the service. My sugguestion is that you go talk with his CO. This way he can't hurt you and you and your family are safe. His CO should also make sure he gets help in his personal life. If you love him and you want to try to make it work, and if nothing has changed him this far, I think you should try talking with the CO 1 last time b4 you leave. By the way, if he kills himself while off duty, no ins $. the only way $ is paid for killing yourself is if you are a POW. he won't even get a Military funeral! go talk with the CO or even the chaplin. Please keep us posted!
 
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August 2, 2006, 2:15 pm PDT

WAKE UP!

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My husband and I have been arguing all day. It first started when I woke up to see that our 7month old son had no formula and my husband took ALL the money to work with him except what he had in our safety deposit box at home. I got in it and got some money out to get our son some formula because I could not get intouch with my husband. When my husband finally called I had already left the house so I told him what I did and he got very mad at me for taking the money(even though it was to get our son formula). When he got mad and started yelling at me over the phone I told him that I have had it with his attitude and told him I was going to leave so we (me and our kids) wouldnt be such an incovience to him anymore. When I got home to get some stuff together he wasnt here so I had some time to cool off and think about things before I left. I found out he had taken ALL the money in the safety box to work with him well he took the whole box.  On top of him not helping me with the kids and the household chores he wants to be an ass about the money and stuff. I am so stressed out all the time i find myself crying. I wrote my husband an email to tell him we needed to sit down and talk about our problems. When he got home he read it and I basically wasted my time and made my carpal tunnel flare up by typing it. He didnt want to talk about anything he just wanted to sit infront of the computer and let people tell him how to spend his money(money that we dont really have). I asked him to get up and pick his military gear up and put all of it in one spot...That doesnt get done he is sleeping in the recliner right now like I never asked him to do anything. I am at my wits end. I dont know what to do. He doesnt want to talk about our problems he never wants to spend anytime together. He would rather sleep than spend time with his family.  I need some help....Do I leave and make him realize he has a great family? or do I wait and see if things will get better. I have left before but he told me he was going to kill himself so all of our money problems will go away and our kids will never have to want for anything because if he dies I get 250,000 $. That just broke my heart because I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. HELP ME PLEASE!!!

Run, do not walk, to the nearest Family Court to get an order of child support.  Then speak to his commanding officer about whether the army can handle his pay so that the welfare of you and the kids are protected.

We are not talking about extravagance.  He left you without money to FEED YOUR BABY!!  And, then he got mad at  you for taking some cash so your baby could be nourished?  Your H is not in touch with reality.  There is no bill, no debt that should be paid before you put food in your child's mouth.  Do you realize that not providing your baby with food is, at best, neglect and, at worse, child abuse?  You could be facing the child protective authorities who've come to place your baby in foster care if your H sucessfully protects his cash instead of his child!

You need to get into therapy to work out what is going on in your marriage.  If you leave  just to make him realize he has a great family, you may be the one who comes to a realization, not him.  You may realize that he doesn't care.

All of the options you're considering have to do with the nature of the reaction you'll get from your H.  Excuse me, but that's a-backwards.  You don't leave to get a reaction out of him & you don't stay to "see if things will get better."  You figure out what you want and need and you make your greatest effort to find out if he's the man who is willing to work with you to make a good life.

He doesn't want to talk with you, or spend timewith the family, or sleep with you?  Honey, that ain't a marriage, that's a dungeon.  Can you save it, as you love him?  Maybe, but not by being the passive doormat you describe.

First- take care of your children's needs.  They must not be left vulnerable and unprotected.  You're their mother.  It's your job to protect them.  It's your H's job too, but if he's falling down on the job you are still responsible.

Secondly- you must take care of yourself, which means either making this marriage better or accepting that it's going nowhere and it's time to make a real, but different life for yourself & your kids.  To accomplish this second task, you have to convince H of how serious you are when you say that you're either in marriage counseling with him or you're not in this marriage at all. 

As for him killing himself if you go - that sounds like a controlling, manipulative tactic.  If he kills himself it's because of some very deep-seated personal problems that you didn't cause.  You can't be held hostage to a suicide threat.

Don't you see that he's really threatening you with homicide?  You're not living life.  You're in hell.  Now, even your baby is being exposed to harm.  You have got to do something now.

 


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