Message Boards

Replies to '01/17 Gender Identity Crisis'

 

Message Emote
blank
January 13, 2007, 10:52 am PST

01/17 Gender Identity Crisis

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.

God did not create junk and does know us better than we know ourselves - you are extraordinarily correct! That does not mean we will know our neighbor better than they know themselves nor should we judge them do to lack of understanding.  The show is simply to provide perspectives and stories.  Maybe after watching you won't say "It just doesn't seem right." but rather fully understand that God created each and every one of us different - and at times, it looks like a "problem" until you see the whole picture.

I mean no offense at all.  I don't normally dress/feel like a man myself, but everyone has a purpose.. even if you don't understand or quite know what it is.  The people on these shows always touch SOMEONE's life and heart and that is what counts.

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
January 13, 2007, 12:27 pm PST

and ??? your point ???

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
January 13, 2007, 2:03 pm PST

01/17 Gender Identity Crisis

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.

From this line of reasoning, am I to assume if you had a faulty heart, you wouldn't get a new one?  If you had an extra toe on each foot you wouldn't have it removed?  What about hermaphroditic people, should they just deal with it, and never choose a gender because God made them that way?

Do you color you hair?  Wear make-up?  Wear clothes??

Some people are simply NOT going to be happy, functional people without making the changes necessary to be who they truly are inside.  For some people, this means changing gender.

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
quiet
January 15, 2007, 5:21 am PST

I agree with you.

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.
I don't believe God creates junk either. There is nothing alive that God didn't breathe life into. You and I and everyone else were created by the same God. None of us are better than the other. God wants us to love one another and help one another. God is kind , forgiving, loving and that's how He wants us to be . Nothing can ever be accomplished by hating one another.
 
User Mood
Mellow

Message Emote
blank
January 17, 2007, 5:30 am PST

01/17 Gender Identity Crisis

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.

If you look at just the gay aspect you'll see there is those who respectfully live with their sexual preference left in the bedroom and those who are walking advertisements or debaters on the subject.  If I must make a decision about anyone, it is about who they are, thier actions and what is important in life.  There is many babies born with birth defects, it is not thier fault nor Gods.

Gender is a complex subject especially for those actually born with a defect.  I spiritually think that many who make public displays of any kind of sexual preferences be it gay, perverse, porn stars or spouse swapping is wrong.  Public awareness of the true porblems though is a definate good topic.  I know gay people that don't walk and advertise thier whole life about it and those who everything is about it.  I feel so bad for people who are caught in a body they can't feel comfortable in, but I am not so sure it should be treated like a defect if it is not absolute a defect.

Make up, heels, or perfume does not make a woman,

Beards, Muscle or a deep voice does not make a man.

Skinny, over weight, tall, short, pretty, plain Jane or homely?  When do we fix so much that is wrong inside first before we go cutting up the body?  So many cannot get corrective surgery for actual defects or from bad accidents yet we find ourselves caught up in sex changes as if they are only about a sexually orientated aspect?  It is about more than one aspect.

A new brain would be so cool for those who lost thiers but it is a bit extreme to the loved ones of those with defects, serious injuries?  Since the Bible is brought up so much: look closer because homosexual activity is not new at all.  Most birth defects is!

God did not make junk, he did make a complicated world, we messed alot of it up by judgements that is really his, chemicals, medications and forgetting a person is every word that procedes out of thier mouth and every action not their looks! 

 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
January 17, 2007, 2:12 pm PST

Come on People

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.
I was an ardent Christian for the majority of my life.  After four years of research and hard looking at the facts, I deconverted to Atheist.  There is no proof of God.  Now, I understand people have their beliefs because I used to have them, too.  And I don't really say anything until it comes to others being intolerant BECAUSE OF their beliefs.  All of you on here who are Christians or think the Bible is valid and the word of God to follow- you need to do some research.  Start with the question of if you can prove there is a soul.  If you somehow get past that, then try and prove there is something else out there.  And then if you somehow proved that, prove that the Christian God and Bible are the RIGHT ones out of ALL of the religions that have existed and do exist!  YOU CANNOT!  And I don't see how situations such as gender identity crises, don't make you all wake up and see the light!  Obviously sex is BIOLOGICAL if people can be male and female- born that way.  It's completely part of biological life.  And it sucks in a world where we have gender roles, but it's just the way it is.  These people should be accepted and loved as the people they are.  They should be allowed to choose.  No one can decide what is right for another people just because a book written by a myriad of different people with different beliefs says so.  Everyone must decide what is right for themselves.  Stop the discrimination.  You have no proof that your God is right or the only one or even exists!  So keep it to yourself and let people be what they will.  And do some research before you assume people are just making these choices.  After all, there really aren't any choices.  What you choose is the only thing you could have possibly done or you wouldn't have done it.  Therefore, it's not a choice, it is just what is.  Determinism.  And I am sorry to all of you who are born with gender identity issues.  I accept you for who you are and wish you all the best.
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
January 17, 2007, 2:32 pm PST

01/17 Gender Identity Crisis

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.
 TRUE GOD DON'T MAKE JUNK, HOWEVER I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE BRAIN BIRTH DEFECTS JUST LIKE THERE ARE OTHER PYSICAL BIRTH DEFECTS.
 
User Mood
Happy

Message Emote
blank
January 17, 2007, 4:23 pm PST

true

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.
   God does know me better than i know myself. God knows what i'm going through and God knows that i didn't choose it. i also believe that God wants me to be relatively happy with myself physically and able to focus on Him and the important things in life rather than the mismatch between my brain and body. God knows what's best for me. you're not God. you don't have a clue what's right for me, nor I you.

i believe that *because* God knows all, and understands all, He won't be upset with me if i change my body. i will still be myself, regardless. it won't change who i am inside, and i believe my heart is what matters to God, not the rest of it.
 
User Mood
Good

Message Emote
blank
January 17, 2007, 8:09 pm PST

01/17 Gender Identity Crisis

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.
What exactly is your point?
 
User Mood
Peaceful

Message Emote
sad
January 18, 2007, 2:16 am PST

I feel sorry for you

Quote From: nilysm47

I will be the first to say I don't understand . I don't believe God created any junk. God knows us better than we know ourselves. He knew us before the world began. Since I don't understand am I to ask for a new brain? It just dosen't seem right.
 Since you don't understand, perhaps a trip to the internet would help.  For the record, not everyone believes in your version of god.  Nature does make mistakes.  I'm living proof of that--I was born disabled and intersexed.  If you were sick or hurt and a doctor could help with his/her skills, would you just let the problem continue or would you try and get help and get well?  That's the whole point of transitioning to one gender or another.  Since medicine has a means of helping the trans community, we can access those means, to whatever ends we feel the most comfortable with.  Are you saying that I should've never had all the surgeries I've had to improve my life?  The same thing is true about being trans.  You can educate your brain to "fix" it.  The same thing applies to transpeople.  We first educate ourselves and then proceed further if we feel it would make us whole.  And anyone can do this by going to the numerous trans-oriented websites.  Please don't use religion as a means of solving all the world's problems.
 


Return to the Message Board


First Page | Previous Page | 1 | Next | Last