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January 18, 2007, 9:02 am PST

01/18 Mr. Wrong

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OK, so let's assume that the lighter fluid incident was an accident......

 

So how about a man living without an income, no electricity, charges for cruelty to a family cat, which I'm sure the children had a bond, not seeking medical attention for a 4-year-old, and filthy living conditions.

 

Nope, doesn't sound like it all happened by accident.  Simply sounds like a case of not taking responsibility for one's actions without regard for the innocent. 

 

Although we only know what was presented on the show it was enough for me to question both parents' ability to protect their children. 

 

I think Kelly and her husband are doing the only thing they know how to do to protect their grandchildren.  I give Kelly credit for stepping up to the plate to avoid having her grandchildren in the foster care system, which we all know is not perfect.  Although there are many wonderful, loving foster families (have one living next door), there are an equal number of foster homes that are sub par and downright dangerous.  I would question any grandparent's character for not doing the same, with senior health problems excluded of course.  I'm sure Kelly didn't plan on spending her golden years starting over raising children but thank heaven that she is.  And to say they are doing it for $246.00/month in disability and child support (Which is based on the parent(s) ability to pay.), is ridiculous and an insult to the rest of us parents that know what it costs to raise healthy, well-fed, educated and socially stimulated children. 

 

Maybe one day Earl and Heather can petition the court for visitation, but the courts obviously have enough evidence at this point in time to sever the relationship. 

It would appear that this person has another agenda here. Maybe she's speaking from a past experience on her part. The show hasn't aired where I live yet,  but I read the website and I didn't get the impression the grandmother is evil. Just trying to do what is best for the kids. And what kind of idiot would let a small child suffer burns like that, without seeking medical attention? I'm not a medical person either but I know when to take a child to the doctor for a burn like that!!!
 
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January 18, 2007, 9:36 am PST

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OK, so let's assume that the lighter fluid incident was an accident......

 

So how about a man living without an income, no electricity, charges for cruelty to a family cat, which I'm sure the children had a bond, not seeking medical attention for a 4-year-old, and filthy living conditions.

 

Nope, doesn't sound like it all happened by accident.  Simply sounds like a case of not taking responsibility for one's actions without regard for the innocent. 

 

Although we only know what was presented on the show it was enough for me to question both parents' ability to protect their children. 

 

I think Kelly and her husband are doing the only thing they know how to do to protect their grandchildren.  I give Kelly credit for stepping up to the plate to avoid having her grandchildren in the foster care system, which we all know is not perfect.  Although there are many wonderful, loving foster families (have one living next door), there are an equal number of foster homes that are sub par and downright dangerous.  I would question any grandparent's character for not doing the same, with senior health problems excluded of course.  I'm sure Kelly didn't plan on spending her golden years starting over raising children but thank heaven that she is.  And to say they are doing it for $246.00/month in disability and child support (Which is based on the parent(s) ability to pay.), is ridiculous and an insult to the rest of us parents that know what it costs to raise healthy, well-fed, educated and socially stimulated children. 

 

Maybe one day Earl and Heather can petition the court for visitation, but the courts obviously have enough evidence at this point in time to sever the relationship. 

Signs of animal cruelty are a red flag right there.  It foreshadows murderous and anti-social behavior in adulthood.  And that's not a healthy thing to do if you are an adult...just a matter of time until he does the same to a human.  She needs to extricate herself from this train wreck of a relationship ASAP!
 
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January 18, 2007, 10:52 am PST

01/18 Mr. Wrong

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OK, so let's assume that the lighter fluid incident was an accident......

 

So how about a man living without an income, no electricity, charges for cruelty to a family cat, which I'm sure the children had a bond, not seeking medical attention for a 4-year-old, and filthy living conditions.

 

Nope, doesn't sound like it all happened by accident.  Simply sounds like a case of not taking responsibility for one's actions without regard for the innocent. 

 

Although we only know what was presented on the show it was enough for me to question both parents' ability to protect their children. 

 

I think Kelly and her husband are doing the only thing they know how to do to protect their grandchildren.  I give Kelly credit for stepping up to the plate to avoid having her grandchildren in the foster care system, which we all know is not perfect.  Although there are many wonderful, loving foster families (have one living next door), there are an equal number of foster homes that are sub par and downright dangerous.  I would question any grandparent's character for not doing the same, with senior health problems excluded of course.  I'm sure Kelly didn't plan on spending her golden years starting over raising children but thank heaven that she is.  And to say they are doing it for $246.00/month in disability and child support (Which is based on the parent(s) ability to pay.), is ridiculous and an insult to the rest of us parents that know what it costs to raise healthy, well-fed, educated and socially stimulated children. 

 

Maybe one day Earl and Heather can petition the court for visitation, but the courts obviously have enough evidence at this point in time to sever the relationship. 

I think I realize the "fire" is only the straw that broke the camel's back.  It's the thing they focus on.  It's probably more "not seeking medical attention" than the actual fire.  Also, whenever these cases come up... something that is always left out is that  CHILDREN ARE NAUGHTY.  And they are.  They will do what you tell them not to do.... And they will do what you tell them not to do after reminding them 100 times....  I mean how many times have you heard someone say to you:  DON'T PLAY WITH MATCHES!  (1,000?)

 

"So how about a man living without an income, no electricity, charges for cruelty to a family cat, which I'm sure the children had a bond, not seeking medical attention for a 4-year-old, and filthy living conditions?"

 

True, not the best environment, but STILL falling into the category of NEGLECT and NOT NECESSARILY INTENTIONAL HARM TO A CHILD.   WHO KNOWS WHY PEOPLE LIVE THE WAY THEY DO?  but they do.  Those messy home shows have been on here......

 

I just think Kelly needs to think about Heather's feelings.  And she's not.  She's mad at her and therefore, helping her kids, BUT "getting back at her" by not letting her see them.  I know people who are perpetually messy and I know people who are perpetually clean....  sometimes the messy one's are more relaxed where the clean one's are more tense and make you feel uncomfortable...  Perhaps Heather needs to learn the different between Messy and Unsafe messy????? I still think it's wrong for Kelly do this to her.

 

 

 

 

 

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January 18, 2007, 12:18 pm PST

01/18 Mr. Wrong

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OK, so let's assume that the lighter fluid incident was an accident......

 

So how about a man living without an income, no electricity, charges for cruelty to a family cat, which I'm sure the children had a bond, not seeking medical attention for a 4-year-old, and filthy living conditions.

 

Nope, doesn't sound like it all happened by accident.  Simply sounds like a case of not taking responsibility for one's actions without regard for the innocent. 

 

Although we only know what was presented on the show it was enough for me to question both parents' ability to protect their children. 

 

I think Kelly and her husband are doing the only thing they know how to do to protect their grandchildren.  I give Kelly credit for stepping up to the plate to avoid having her grandchildren in the foster care system, which we all know is not perfect.  Although there are many wonderful, loving foster families (have one living next door), there are an equal number of foster homes that are sub par and downright dangerous.  I would question any grandparent's character for not doing the same, with senior health problems excluded of course.  I'm sure Kelly didn't plan on spending her golden years starting over raising children but thank heaven that she is.  And to say they are doing it for $246.00/month in disability and child support (Which is based on the parent(s) ability to pay.), is ridiculous and an insult to the rest of us parents that know what it costs to raise healthy, well-fed, educated and socially stimulated children. 

 

Maybe one day Earl and Heather can petition the court for visitation, but the courts obviously have enough evidence at this point in time to sever the relationship. 

"Maybe one day Earl and Heather can petition the court for visitation, but the courts obviously have enough evidence at this point in time to sever the relationship." 

 

Absolutely. This is one of those times where the facts are glaringly against the parents. I would like to think I would pick myself up & "get right" for my children's sake had I hit that bottom. Hopefully those two will.

 


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