Quote From: coopjakeFour-year-old children that can get their hands on lighter fluid and matches/a lighter are not naughty they are neglected......period. A four-year-old's mind does not function like an adult's and you can tell them "not to touch" a million times to no avail. It's up to the adults in the home to child-proof the environment. And then when, God forbid, something tragic like this happens they seek medical attention for the best interest of the child. The courts are making a "big deal" out of the lack of medical attention because it is a BIG DEAL.
And the issue with the home environment was not that it was just "messy". It was said and Heather agreed, that it was "filthy", had no electricity and no gas. If there is no electricity then how do they refrigerate the children's food and milk. Could this explain the curdled milk in the bottle. And I'm just postulating here......don't have all the facts, and Heather denied that there was curdled milk in the bottle. But it does throw up some red flags and seem to lend more credence to Kelly's version rather than Heather's.
And I think that Kelly feels like Heather has chosen Earl over her children. Why else would a mother even consider letting her children live in a house with a man with a criminal history like Earl's that even includes two cruelty to animals charges. And it was said on the show that Earl pleaded guilty to one charge and the other is still pending (according to Dr. Phil) or has been dismissed (according to Earl). It's well known that humans that do harm to animals are prone to anti-social and abusive behavior. Again, I think Kelly is doing what she feels is in the children's best interest, because someone here has to have the children's best interest come first. From what was shown this is not the case with Heather.
Heather appears to be reasonably intelligent and well-spoken. If she would open her eyes and see that Earl is not the appropriate provider, nurturer nor role model for her children she would then appreicate her mother for raising her children and keeping them out of the system. If she truly wanted to have visitation or custody of her children she would take the necessary steps to remove herself from this relationship not blame her mother for trying to do what's right for the children.
"Four-year-old children that can get their hands on lighter fluid and matches/a lighter are not naughty they are neglected."
I totally disagree with that. Why do we have firemen in the first place? You only have to read your newspaper to read the various ways fires have started. THIS STORY THOUGH IS NOT ABOUT THE FIRE. And I wanted to say I remember them saying he got the matches and lighter fluid in the night. If a kid gets up in the night when he was suppose to be sleeping?
You are saying since he had 2 cruelty to animal cases: You are transferring it and saying he abused those kids: I think it's an excuse. It's like communist.
I agree that much of the decision of the court is BASED ON THE THINGS KELLY SAID.
When you meet people, just people.... Noone is perfect... Far from it..... Should someone take someone else's kids because they are a BETTER PARENT?
I DON'T THINK KELLY SHOULD HAVE HEATHER'S. I don't think anyone who mistreats the mother of the children should have the kids. I think the kids should be cared for by a neutral party who will nuture and repair the relationship between HEATHER AND HER CHILDREN regardless if she stays with Earl or not.
When you hear the skeleton's in the closets of EVERYONE.... say you took ANY crowd of people... any crowd and they went around the room and shared things...YOU WOULD FIND SIMILAR AND WORSE THINGS than Earl in fathers who have their kids and are doing fine.
I feel sorry for Heather's tears regardless because she is in a no win situation.