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February 6, 2007, 5:26 am PST

To Desperate Wife

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   Stereotyped men have no right to treat women like merchandise, sex machine's & tax deduction's!!!   I think somehow we need to get to the root of this major problem.  Through the year's while these men grew up, they forgot, how they treated their Mother's.  Evidently, they take their anger & frustration's out on the one's they say they LOVE.  Just because they weren't taught how to seek medical attention for their trauma's.

   My Husband, seems to think a woman's place is doing all the home chore's & working as hard as a Man does.  He is so possessive & degrading to me, especially in front of other's.  I know deep down inside himself, there is a trauma & he fights with his own demon's, cause he also degrades himself.

     I think part of our adult life solution could be continued Education!    But, to implement this, I have found, the only way would be to involve the Law..  I found this easier said, then done!!!!!!

     All & any feedback would be greatly appreciated..                    Desperate  Wife

I have a sister who is married to a controlling and at times violent man. He treats her like a slave and expects her to do everything. He doesn't work now, but she has to support the family by working, and then coming home and doing all the cooking, washing and other house chores. My heart goes out to her. Her husband Sam, always critises our mother who has passed on, my mother didnt want her to marry him as she used to come home with black eyes before they got married. So because of that he always degrades our mum, last time being Christmas time. I got upset over it and my sister of course took her husband's side and told me not to come round if i didnt like it. So now i keep my distance from my brother -in-law, but i still see my sister as i dont want to lose her.  They have been married for 20 years and have 5 children, all now are over 21.My sister's reason for not leaving him is that she wanted to keep the family together plus there was nowhere to go and they didnt have much money anyway.  He is a drunk and never liked or respected our side of the family, but he always respected his. It's not fair i think.  So i empathize for you as you are having a hell of a life.  I really cant tell you what you should be doing as i can guess you have tried many things to make your life livable.  I pray and hope you will find some peace in your life. Sorry i could not contribute much.  Love Maria3255 
 
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February 6, 2007, 3:33 pm PST

You need to rescue YOU

Quote From: zipping7

   Stereotyped men have no right to treat women like merchandise, sex machine's & tax deduction's!!!   I think somehow we need to get to the root of this major problem.  Through the year's while these men grew up, they forgot, how they treated their Mother's.  Evidently, they take their anger & frustration's out on the one's they say they LOVE.  Just because they weren't taught how to seek medical attention for their trauma's.

   My Husband, seems to think a woman's place is doing all the home chore's & working as hard as a Man does.  He is so possessive & degrading to me, especially in front of other's.  I know deep down inside himself, there is a trauma & he fights with his own demon's, cause he also degrades himself.

     I think part of our adult life solution could be continued Education!    But, to implement this, I have found, the only way would be to involve the Law..  I found this easier said, then done!!!!!!

     All & any feedback would be greatly appreciated..                    Desperate  Wife

Your husband sounds exactly like my sister's (she's been married 14 years). It took my sister LEAVING for two years and getting herself counseling before they got back together and he MADE HIMSELF change. They are now happy together and living a great life. If she had not taken action herself, she would still be miserable today...with him or divorced from him.

 

Take control of your life. Take control of you. Take off the victim label. You teach him how to treat you. You've allowed him to walk on you. Only you can make him stop.

 

If he is possessive an degrading to you (as well as to himself), he is angry and sad. He doesn't like himsef or his life. You are the easy target of his anger and sadness. At least with fighting, he gets your attention. He feels he has some control, some power. He feels important for a few moments.

 

You don't need continuing education. YOu need to get into counseling with or WITHOUT him. Once he sees that you are emotionally  healthy and won't allow him to bring you down, he'll either step up to the plate and get help for himself or he won't....then it's up to you to make a decison about what is best for you and your children. Abuse is never best for anyone.

 

God bless you. You know you must act. Stop waiting to be rescued;nothing will change until you require change. I have faith in you! 

 
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February 6, 2007, 4:44 pm PST

Dear Desperate

Quote From: zipping7

   Stereotyped men have no right to treat women like merchandise, sex machine's & tax deduction's!!!   I think somehow we need to get to the root of this major problem.  Through the year's while these men grew up, they forgot, how they treated their Mother's.  Evidently, they take their anger & frustration's out on the one's they say they LOVE.  Just because they weren't taught how to seek medical attention for their trauma's.

   My Husband, seems to think a woman's place is doing all the home chore's & working as hard as a Man does.  He is so possessive & degrading to me, especially in front of other's.  I know deep down inside himself, there is a trauma & he fights with his own demon's, cause he also degrades himself.

     I think part of our adult life solution could be continued Education!    But, to implement this, I have found, the only way would be to involve the Law..  I found this easier said, then done!!!!!!

     All & any feedback would be greatly appreciated..                    Desperate  Wife

Why do women think they need to stay?  The sake of the kids?  It is their own desperation and fear of being by themselves.  It is not a bad place to be.  Scary...without a doubt.  If  you have any family support at all, use it. Until he does get help with his own demons, whatever they are...nothing will change.  No one should tolerate being degraded in front of others.  Please stand up for yourself today and let him know you will not tolerate it.   If there is violence involved, certainly involve the law, but then don't allow him to do it again.  Get counseling.  Look in the phone book.  Call anyone.  The county based mental health facilities, anyone that can give you some help.  Trust me, if he treated you this way, he treated his mother poorly too.  You just didn't see it.  A women's place is not in the home by any means.  If you don't have a job, get a part-time job anywhere.  Just to get you out with others and find a support system.  Education is the key.  YOU ARE WORTHY OR MORE - DON'T SETTLE FOR THIS PLEASE.  If you don't you'll just keep getting what you're getting and that is a shame.  Love and respect are a two way street.  The toxicity will continue and the cycle will repeat itself.    Take care.
 


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