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February 20, 2007, 8:42 pm PST

02/22 Adoptions Scams, Part 1

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The lady didn't steal anyone's hopes or dreams, she stole their money. Babies are blank slates; one is as good as the next.  She scammed them, she'll go to jail, but she isn't evil, and they can go buy another kid.

 Maybe you should watch the show before forming your opinion. There was tons stolen here. This girl is a professional at stealing hopes and dreams (among other things). You don't even know the half of it.

You actually think if you had a child to die that you can just have another and forget about it? It doesn't work that way.
 
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February 20, 2007, 9:54 pm PST

02/22 Adoptions Scams, Part 1

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The lady didn't steal anyone's hopes or dreams, she stole their money. Babies are blank slates; one is as good as the next.  She scammed them, she'll go to jail, but she isn't evil, and they can go buy another kid.

I'm sorry...babies are not blank slates they are babies!    All babies are good but when you loose one if it's by a failed adoption or miscarriage you are heart broken.  When someone scams an adoptive couple she does steal their hopes and dreams.  It's like if your abused and the abuser takes your trust away or how about if someone steels your indentaty and takes your life away that you work so hard to get.  When you can't have children your hopes and dreams of becoming pregnant are crushed and when you put your trust in another person to give you a hertiage sent through God to them and then to you it's the most precious thing on earth to you.  So when a scammer does this she does steal more than their hopes and dreams but their trust in other women who is despretly looking for someone to care for her baby.  One last thing adoption is NEVER and I say NEVER buying a kid.  It's about a woman who knows that she can't give her child the best in life and who is so selfless that she chooses this plan for their baby's life.    She is the most respectable person I will ever know.  Children are not to be bought they are to be loved with unconditional love.  Money doesn't buy anything but food, clothing and material things...it can't buy love or babies.  If you buy babies then your heart is not in adoption.

 

I know Marie and I'm so proud of her and the other women who stood up to Melissa!  I'm praying for all of you and your soon to be babies.  May God Bless you on this journey of the emotional rollercoster of adoption.  Your arms like mine will be filled with children who we will love them like ours. 

 

You go Marie!!!!!! 

 
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February 20, 2007, 10:38 pm PST

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The lady didn't steal anyone's hopes or dreams, she stole their money. Babies are blank slates; one is as good as the next.  She scammed them, she'll go to jail, but she isn't evil, and they can go buy another kid.

reticulate...

 

Man, you need to go and do some research. Your statements are very inaccurate, let alone insensitive to the plight of these three women.

 

Did it ever occur to you that a lot of people who are scammed do NOT give any money to the scammer? Some of these evil people are just in it for the thrill of manipulating their victims.

 

By the way, we don't "BUY" children in this country. That's a federal crime. Again, spend some time researching instead of kicking people when they're down. UGH.

 

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July 26, 2007, 12:01 pm PDT

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The lady didn't steal anyone's hopes or dreams, she stole their money. Babies are blank slates; one is as good as the next.  She scammed them, she'll go to jail, but she isn't evil, and they can go buy another kid.

I believe the same. I could not imagine the hopes and wishes as well as struggles that these 3 women endored. That is hard to imagine that someone had the gall to do this type of thing. Posible knowing what these people have been through tryin to have a baby. That type of person should have to repay these women twice over for everything that she has but these wonderful people through.. No amount of money can every replace these womens hurt...

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July 26, 2007, 9:43 pm PDT

07/26 Adoptions Scams, Part 1

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The lady didn't steal anyone's hopes or dreams, she stole their money. Babies are blank slates; one is as good as the next.  She scammed them, she'll go to jail, but she isn't evil, and they can go buy another kid.

I'm rather surprised to read your response.  It showed a remarkable lack of understanding, of adoption, of adoption scams and of this adoption scam in particular.

 

Allow me to clarify things for you.

 

First of all, adoption is a combination of two things.  A woman unable to care for her child and an adoptive couple, usually unable to have children of their own.  Selling a baby is strictly against National Law and people who do it are usually prosecuted to the fullest extent the law will allow.

 

Second, adoption scams DO steal an adoptive couples dreams.  They are dreaming of holding a child in their arms, dreaming of raising it, giving it their love, teaching it how to be a responsible adult.  They WANT these things and it's true up to a point that one child is as a good as any other...at first.  But babies take nine months to develop.  Usually adoptive parents don't have to endure the whole nine months waiting for the baby to be born, but however long it takes eventually they begin to feel that they have formed a bond with the child they are promised, so when a mother or scammer tells the prospective couple that, for whatever reason, they can't have the baby after all, it's like the child died in their arms.  They are hurt and have to mourn.  They also lose hope.  Adoption is a long and difficult process.  The United States has some rather stringent adoption laws and, on top of that, many adoption agencies try to screen prospective parents before they start to match them with adoptable babies.  Their hope that some other mother will select them as worthy parents for her child becomes overshadowed by the realization that whatever mother they are talking to may be attempting to trick them again.  Another point here is that, very often prospective parents of an adopted child have spent a good deal of money preparing to receive the child promised to them (buying clothing and furniture, hiring lawyers so that they know what they have to do to be able to bring the child home and give it their name, perhaps even painting a room, things like that), so even if there weren't laws against "buying another kid" as you so astutely put it, they might not have the resources available to do so.

 

Last, but most certainly not least,  the only thing you said about "the Lady" that I agree with is "She isn't evil."  This scam wasn't for money, it was for attention.  The scammer in this particular instance wanted to feel important to someone.  It's true that she did get some items and possibly some money, but her ultimate desire wasn't to bilk the prospective parents of her "child"  out of their life savings, it was to feel important to someone.

 

That said, there's a good chance that all three women will have to go through some form of therapy before they are ready to trust another mother telling them they are the right people for her baby and the next time you make one of these pronouncements it might be a good idea to have all the facts first.  That way you wouldn't get the goats of so many people.

 


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