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February 28, 2007, 3:51 pm PST

02/28 Silent Darkness

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I found it very interesting, that this show was all about supporting the parents of these Deaf/Blind children. Where when most people hear of or deal with a child with Autism, they offer little empathy. These Deaf/Blind children act very much like an Autistic child. So I ask you, if they were classified as Autistic instead of Deaf/Blind, would you care?

 

There's a positive documentary on these Deaf/Blind triplets, yet what do Autistic children have? A propaganda film called Autism Every Day, which shows MANIPULATED Autistic children. Who have INTENTIONALLY had their structure, and environment messed with. So that what you see is out of control, tantrum throwing, Autistic brats. To further the idea that Autistic children need to be prenatally tested, so they can be aborted.

 

I'm not seeing anyone saying these Deaf/Blind triplets would be better off if they weren't born. However, while they are seen as little miracles. Autistic children are seen as suffering, and as "Not exsisting" or "Not being there", while most people don't question that. Dr. Phil brought up that these Deaf/Blind children sense their parents love, even if they don't formally communicate it to their parents. I don't see many people saying that in regards to Autistic children, when the statement is also true for them.

 

If you really care about these children, then go and try to help Autistic children, who are very similar, if not, in the same situation. They may not be deaf, and blind, but they also don't communicate by NT standards, which our society seems to think is a great problem. I'd even make the allusion, that they see Autistic children as being a problem, as much as Hitler saw the Jews as being a problem.

 

If none of this affects you, then just think that the Eugenics starts with those who are Autistic. It will continue until there are only "perfect" children born. Which means these triplets would not be able to access life. Maybe you wouldn't be able to access life, because of some issue you may have that isn't seen as you being worthy of life.

 

I think there should be much more discussion about this very important issue. I'm not trying to diminish the struggle of the parents of these Deaf/Blind children. The fact is though, because their children are disabled in a standard sense, they have it much easier. Than parents of Autistic children, who are constantly told their child is just a burden, who don't get support. Unless their child is visibly disabled, or physically disabled.

 

Mental disabliity is seen as a curse, it should stop being promoted in that way. At the very least, to stop this growing sense of disabilism, where if someone isn't physically disabled and needs help. They will grow a resentment for those who do, and refuse to understand their struggle. Seeing as, they get all the help they could ever want, while the child who is mentally disabled, is left to struggle on their own.

i think all parents with children with any kind of a problem no matter how great or small really should try turning to the one who can and will make a difference, when all the doctors and surgeons can offer and do has done so little.
 

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February 28, 2007, 4:52 pm PST

frustration and autism

Quote From: yoshiyoshi

I found it very interesting, that this show was all about supporting the parents of these Deaf/Blind children. Where when most people hear of or deal with a child with Autism, they offer little empathy. These Deaf/Blind children act very much like an Autistic child. So I ask you, if they were classified as Autistic instead of Deaf/Blind, would you care?

 

There's a positive documentary on these Deaf/Blind triplets, yet what do Autistic children have? A propaganda film called Autism Every Day, which shows MANIPULATED Autistic children. Who have INTENTIONALLY had their structure, and environment messed with. So that what you see is out of control, tantrum throwing, Autistic brats. To further the idea that Autistic children need to be prenatally tested, so they can be aborted.

 

I'm not seeing anyone saying these Deaf/Blind triplets would be better off if they weren't born. However, while they are seen as little miracles. Autistic children are seen as suffering, and as "Not exsisting" or "Not being there", while most people don't question that. Dr. Phil brought up that these Deaf/Blind children sense their parents love, even if they don't formally communicate it to their parents. I don't see many people saying that in regards to Autistic children, when the statement is also true for them.

 

If you really care about these children, then go and try to help Autistic children, who are very similar, if not, in the same situation. They may not be deaf, and blind, but they also don't communicate by NT standards, which our society seems to think is a great problem. I'd even make the allusion, that they see Autistic children as being a problem, as much as Hitler saw the Jews as being a problem.

 

If none of this affects you, then just think that the Eugenics starts with those who are Autistic. It will continue until there are only "perfect" children born. Which means these triplets would not be able to access life. Maybe you wouldn't be able to access life, because of some issue you may have that isn't seen as you being worthy of life.

 

I think there should be much more discussion about this very important issue. I'm not trying to diminish the struggle of the parents of these Deaf/Blind children. The fact is though, because their children are disabled in a standard sense, they have it much easier. Than parents of Autistic children, who are constantly told their child is just a burden, who don't get support. Unless their child is visibly disabled, or physically disabled.

 

Mental disabliity is seen as a curse, it should stop being promoted in that way. At the very least, to stop this growing sense of disabilism, where if someone isn't physically disabled and needs help. They will grow a resentment for those who do, and refuse to understand their struggle. Seeing as, they get all the help they could ever want, while the child who is mentally disabled, is left to struggle on their own.

Amen. I just wrote a long post about dealing with mh workers and the mh system. You are so right. The only help I could find at first with my autistic son was with people who work with deaf/blind/multihandicapped kids.

However, there is much evidence that people with mental disabilities have brains that are organically different from typical people, which, in my humble opinion, makes a mental disability a physical disablity. And people with typical brains should be able to figure that one out. To me, my son is not mentally disabled. The stigma attached to that cannot be overcome because so many people think that is something you can overcome if you just learn to think right. I wish they would take a look at some brain scans and read some research. But, alas, people with disablities you can't see suffer blatant discrimination. Our society has not recognized the needs of people with visible disabilities for very long. Anyone remember the fights about wheelchair ramps and handicapped parking spaces? How ugly that people would fight those issues. Quite an indicator for the fight we face for those with brain/mental differences.

I don't see people with physical disabilities getting all the help they could ever want. Having been associated with people with DBMH kids for so long, I see their struggle being as difficult as those of us with Autistic kids. It's just a different struggle. I wanted to stay involved with them, but my son's needs took me down a different path. I attended the meetings and did the fundraising and saw the hardship in their lives. It's nightmarish for them to get what we want for our children, too: an appropriate education, to be treated with respect and care, respite care, the right meds (if needed) that won't damage their bodies, the list goes on and on.

Another note, my child is very verbal and has an astounding vocabulary. But his cognitive and communication skills are very low. So he doesn't always tell me when someone hurts him, physically or emotionally. He is learning to do so but the process is  life-long. I feel such fear for him, I can't imagine the fear of the parent of a child who cannot speak or communicate effectively in another way. My son was punched in the chest by a mh employee while he was in four-point restraints. He was also verbally abused. The man told him to "use the restroom on himself" (in much uglier terms) and that he hoped my son would die. My son was able to tell me about it but, of course, there are no cameras in consumers' rooms, and our complaint was found to be without proof by the investigation team or individual despite the fact that my son's chest was terribly bruised. (The offending employee was moved to another unit and eventually dismissed and my son is out of that place now, thank God). But I imagined what it would be like had my son not been able to tell me what happened. To have a fully functioning brain and lack communication skills.  What the heck do those people do when people can't tell on  them? And how can your heart have any peace at all when you don't know who to trust with your child? (There are some people I still talk to at "that place" because they are wonderul, caring people who respect the kids and their needs and protect their rights as much as they can. Yes,  those people do exist, God love them.)

There is no lesser of two evils here, I think. It all stinks to high heaven.

 


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