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July 23, 2005, 12:48 pm PDT

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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours.My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have. Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?

Dear Brandyfra,

I read what you wrote and recently I read here in Canada in the papers what a stay at home mom is worth. I had to look online but I found something similar that you may be interested in reading and sharing with your husband. He may have a hard job, however he also has the job for life of being a father. There is no excuse to make you work 24 hours a day because he has had a long day. He should be giving you a break and helping out, and there is no excuse for not helping you in any way with the home and kids.

Here's what I thought you'd be interested in reading:

 

"WHAT MOTHERS ARE REALLY WORTH. Stay-at-home mothers wear many hats. They're the family CEO, the daycare provider, accountant, chauffeur, counselor, chef, nurse, laundress, entertainer, personal stylist, and educator. Based on a 90-hour work week, Salary.com has estimated that a fair wage for the typical stay-at-home mom would be well over $90,000 for executing all of her daily tasks. Factor in overtime, and the appropriate salary takes a leap of around $25,000."

If you want to read more the website is:

http://www.salary.com/careers/layouthtmls/crel_display_Cat10_Ser253_Par358.html

 

Good luck and take care!

 
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July 26, 2005, 9:58 am PDT

A hard juob is no excuse

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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours.My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have. Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?

brandyfra,

 

Just because your husband is in the Army and works hard, that is no excuse for not helping you out around the house when he gets home.  I don't know what he does, but being a veteran myself, I know there is one day a week where the soldiers are released early for "Family Time".  If he isn't helping you out more on that day, then kick his butt and make him help out.  I think that Dr. Phil said it one (or more) of his shows that being a full time mom is like the equivalent of two full time jobs.  I think that's what he said.  That article that was posted in response also proves that point.

 

You shouldn't have to get a job to get some time to yourself.  That isn't fair to you.  One thing that I did with my husband (not service, just lazy) was tell him "Here, you get to watch our son, I'm going out for a few hours."  And I'd leave.  I'd go to the mall and walk around, or take care of some errands I'd been putting off because kids would make it harder.  If you're not around, he has to step up as the father.  Don't be hesitant about demanding time to yourself.  He gets his time while he's at work.  He should reciprocate for you when he gets home.

 
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July 27, 2005, 12:45 pm PDT

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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours. My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have.  Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?

Actually you don't HAVE to do it.  You CHOOSE to do it.  And the not so funny thing is... hubby CHOOSES not to... hmmm... some partner, huh?

 

Raising children CAN BE VERY STRESSFUL!  It's neverending, 24/7!

 

How can hubby so sure that it's SO easy if he's never done it?!?  Challenge him!

 

So I suggest that one Saturday, you give yourself a break!  Tell him, if he thinks it's so easy, then he can do it for the day.  Then take his Mom out to lunch!  Or Get up, get dressed, and go do something GOOD for you!

 

Also I suggest that you setup some time for yourself.  Hire a sitter for an hour or two once a week or take the kids to Mother's Day-out at your local church, or get a play group going where one Mom in the group gets the day off each week.  Then go do something good for you.

 

I bet you'll amazed at how giving your self YOU time will replenish and refresh you without needing to call on Dad.

 

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August 11, 2005, 6:31 pm PDT

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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours. My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have.  Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?
Hi I am new to the message board but I recently went through a similar situation(my husband is in the Navy). I resented my husband for being able to go to work and play golf whenever after our daughter was born and I was just expected to stay there with her. I was mean to him about it, I never asked him to help, I assumed he should automatically help, after all she is his too. Well after a long night of screaming crying and talking ( I had post partum depression, I was a basket case) I relized men do not work like that. You have to ask. ( I hate asking) What I finally told him was that I was losing it, I was stressed to the max and I needed help or I was going to melt down. Now my husband helps (nothing is going to be perfect though) and I still have to ask him sometimes. When your husbands suggests you get a job, (keep your cool, even though I would want to scream because I know what it is like to baby talk all day) tell him that if you were lucky you getting a job might cover child care for one child, so it might not be that productive. Ask him to help you maybe one hour a day where you can goto the gym (that is what I do) or just go in your bedroom and read a book ( I suggest leaving the house though because my husband always wound up not knowing what to do and he needed to figure it out on his own). Tell him he converses with adults all day and you don't, you need some adult interaction, or some alone time, even just to goto the grocery store. If that doesn't work don't give him a choice, if you need to goto the store wait until he is home and say "I am going to the store I will be right back." If he argues tell him that it is faster and much easier to go and get it done alone. When he says you sound stressed out tell him why in a nice way, I have come to realize the nicer (is that a word??LOL) you are when you talk to them that more they will be likely to help and feel sorry for your situation. I have a hard time keeping my cool and learning to communicate with my husband, but I learned a few things and I hope I could help. It is nice to know that we aren't alone.
 
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February 22, 2006, 5:04 am PST

Division between wife/mother

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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours. My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have.  Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?
My husband seems to find a division between being a good wife and a good mother. I have always thought if your a good wife than your a good mother. I am not sure if this is just a male idea or  just his idea but I believe males tend to think in the "me" box. If it isn't to please ME than it isn't a "good" wife thought. If it's to help the childern than it's in the "good" mothers box. The problem in thinking this way is the fact that we are one person and we can't please everyone in the family at the same time. I tried to balance between the two but my husband wanted it all. It was a struggle! I tried to do some one on one time and he still wasn't happy because he still had to share me. So after 10 years of that I sat him down with my son away and explained. This is crazy!  I am a good mother right? Our son is reasonably stable. If I didn't spend the time with him that I needed to he wouldn't be. If I am a good mother than I am half a good wife and if I add up the rest of the good wife idea I am 3/4 a good wife. So what more do you want? He was dumbfounded. So sit him down & talk.
 
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February 24, 2006, 1:25 pm PST

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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours. My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have.  Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?

I feel your pain, and hopefully I can  be of some assistance. 

  

 I as well am in the Army and my wife stays at home with the two kids. We have had our difficult times and have moved through them learning irreplaceable lessons about each other, our marriage, and parenting. 

  

The first question to ask your husband, especially if he a leader; Ask him how it would feel having at least one of his soldiers with him 24/7. Then explain to him that's what being a mom is like. You are a leader responsible for the development and accomplishments of your most prized possession, YOUR KIDS.  

  

I at one time thought that being a stay at home mom was an easy job for my wife.  I came home after long day at work, a field problem, or PT and couldn't understand why my wife was having a hard day... after all who did she have to report to? It's not like she was training up to deploy or anything.. Well, needless to say I just didn't get it. A couple of things helped me learn that life wasn't all a bowl of cherries for her.  

  

First..annotate your daily schedule. Do it for two to three weeks. Being a stay at home mom is what you make it. If it is a job, treat it like one. Keep notes on all the little stuff like "Breakfast from 8:00-8:30 and so on. It will help you see what you have really done throughout the day.  Keep notes in the evening as well. (Fixed dinner and so-on).  As time progresses manage your day much like your husband might and keep to your schedule, it will help you be a little more efficient and accomplish more. After you have a solid schedule, post it. He will probably understand this because he constantly deals with training schedules. It lets him physically see what you are doing during your day at home. This also gives you the ability to tell him that you are busy, and what ever favor he needs done may have to wait because of "X" "Y" and "Z" are scheduled for the day. Picking up his dry cleaning or whatever it is....the dishes, cleaning, or dinner may have to wait.  

  

Second, Join a group through MWR or something, but get involved. It helps tremendously. A lot of the Army Programs provide free child support for volunteers.  

  

 This is also where I learned my lesson.... My wife was involved with AFTB and had to teach all day as a volunteer. She asked me to simply follow the published schedule and execute the schedule. I quickly learned that executing the list to standard was difficult. I forgot that kids sometimes don't like to do things according to schedules. My daughter fell asleep when we were supposed to be shopping so I let her sleep and the shopping didn't get accomplished. My wife got home and asked how the day went and I felt horrible because even though I could command Soldiers in combat, I couldn't execute a simple task like shopping.  

  

  

Last, keep in mind that you are new to marriage and marriage is a tough battle.  My wife were married for three years before we had kids. We thought we had it all figured out, we were so wrong.  I don't know of anybody who gets everything right the first time.  Keep this in mind as you work together and figure things out. I found that making mistakes are a normal process in life, but making them in front of the one you love the very most makes it hurt just a little more.  

  

I really hope the best for you and your husband.  

  

  

  

 
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February 24, 2006, 4:16 pm PST

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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours. My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have.  Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?
My name is Jennie and I, too, am a military wife.  Unfortunately mine went from working on a ship, seeing the kids every evening from about 4 or 5pm until they went to bed, and having weekends off, to his newest job.  Never let yours go recruiter.  I don't truely understand why our president who believes so much in our military and their families, keeps them away from us soo much.  My husband is a recruiter.  Yes, he's home every night.  BUT, he sees our children for 10 minutes a day.  PERIOD.  And works every single Saturday and some Sundays.  Our poor children have been in sports and dad has made it to two events, for about twenty minutes before he had to rush off to work.  Our day is horrible.  It begins with me getting up at 630 to get ready for the day.  He wakes the children, gets them dressed, and then goes to take his shower.  I take on from there.  By the time he is done getting ready for the day, I'm shoeing the kids out the door to go off to school, and he's jumping in his car.  My kids go to bed at 730pm.  Now, maybe if they stayed up later they would see him more, but they can't keep awake that long.  They are only 4 and 6 yrs old.  Dad comes home at 9pm.  Dinner has been cooked and we had already sat down as a "family" to eat.  He's never there.  I do the volunteering in the classroom, I do the cooking, cleaning, laundry, baths, grocery shopping, bill paying, clothes shopping, and taking the kids to their sports practices.  Dad is never there.  To top it off, his cheif says, "You were not given a family entering the Navy, you don't get one.  I don't give a @$%$^&*& if you ever see them".  We have gone through battles as you.  Luckily my husband at least understands that I too hold a job.  But then he gets mad when he comes home and I vent to him of my day.  He thinks I shouldn't vent to him, because he, too, is working hard.  I wish Dr. Phil would do a segment on how hard military families really have it.  People may understand our side a bit more and maybe someone could get the president to keep our men from working such horrible hours when they are not deployed. 
 
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June 24, 2006, 1:04 pm PDT

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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours. My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have.  Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?

You just described my relationship too! My husband also has never given our 4 month old a bath and I can't recall the last time he fed her or changed her. He also has a demanding job. He's an electrician and works all day in the sun and heat. I tell him all the time that I know he works hard, but he has no idea what I do all day. He tells me he wishes he could sleep all day like me and watch soap operas on tv. If he only knew!! Lately he has been coming home from work later and later.... he leaves at 5:45 for work..... sometimes he won't be home until 6 or 7 even 8. He goes to the bar with the guys from work and tells me he deserves it cause he works so hard. Today on his day off he is now with his brother eating lunch. I called him and asked him why he couldn't eat lunch with his family. Then we start arguing and he hangs up on me. He likes to hang up on me.....I guess it makes him feel better. I am at my wits end. I don't know what to do. I tell him I will take our daughter and leave. He basically laughs at me. I have gotten both of our moms involved. The are pretty upset with him. He promised all of us he would change. It just keeps getting worse. And he tells me it's all my fault. I just want to scream at the top of my lungs!!! It helps to know I am not alone in though and other wives have the same problem.  

 
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July 30, 2006, 4:20 am PDT

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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours. My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have.  Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?
    Well I can understand how you feel it's like the world is on your shoulders.  The only suggestion I have is if you have a friend or a neighbor you can swap kids so each of you can have some alone time.  The other suggestion is to find a group called MOPS.  I was a member of this group when my kids were younger and that will also get you out with other adults.  As for the chores personally I would quit doing his work and let him do his own.  I am a part time working mom but let me say that my best friend has four kids and she is a stay at home mom I give her alot of credit that is a hard job with no pay.  I think if you speak to other woman you will get that alot of us do everything when it comes to the kids.  I hope all goes well for you.  Take care and good luck.
 
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My husband and I have been married for a little over a year and the topic of divorce has come up several times especially since our son has arrived. Since he has been here my husband and I have been at each others throats. I am with our children all day every day. I dont even go to the store without one of the kids. I understand my husband has a hard job being in the Army and all but I didnt have the kids by myself so I feel he should help out with them rather than letting me do everything for them and with them. When it comes to taking the kids to the doctor I have to do, when it comes to baths I have to do it, when it comes to feedings, changings, clothing, and all that kind of stuff I have to do it. My husband asked mewhy i sound like I am stressed and I told him its because I am stressed. I dont know what a day without kids is like, not even a day but not even a few hours. My husband tells me if I want sometime away from the kids I need to get a job. He says that taking care of the kids is not a job and is easy to do no matter how many kids you have.  Anyone have any tips, advice or suggestions to get my husband to help me out with the kids and the household chores?
    Well I can understand how you feel it's like the world is on your shoulders.  The only suggestion I have is if you have a friend or a neighbor you can swap kids so each of you can have some alone time.  The other suggestion is to find a group called MOPS.  I was a member of this group when my kids were younger and that will also get you out with other adults.  As for the chores personally I would quit doing his work and let him do his own.  I am a part time working mom but let me say that my best friend has four kids and she is a stay at home mom I give her alot of credit that is a hard job with no pay.  I think if you speak to other woman you will get that alot of us do everything when it comes to the kids.  I hope all goes well for you.  Take care and good luck.
 


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