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May 3, 2007, 9:15 am PDT

butt out

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My soon to be ex-daughter-in-law has been able to pull welfare scams, and fraud for years.  When she married my son 10 1/2 years ago, he was in the Marines.  She lived in Iowa, while he was in California.  They had a daughter at that time, who was just months old.  They were married 5 months, before she decided to join him, in California.  At that time she wanted me to forward ALL of her mail....when food stamps and checks came in from DHS and it had "do not forward" on the envelopes, I noticed that these were still coming in her maiden name.  One quick phone call told me that she never reported that she ever gotten married, and she had even said the father of the baby had left her, and she had no idea where he was.  She also had a 4 year old daughter at the time.  She has pulled these scams, and my son was oblivious to them.  It was just last fall, that he found out she was collecting welfare again, here in Iowa, after he left the Marines and they moved back here, 2 years ago.  She reported that he left her right after they moved back here, and she even forged his name to documents to keep the falsifications going.  She gave OUR address and phone number as his.  Unfortunately, in dealing with social workers in this area, for years, I have found they don't check these things out, and don't follow through.  My son now owes child support, for the last two years, when he was living with his wife!  This is one of many reasons why they are getting divorced.   

She is now being investigated in California and N. Carolina, where they had been stationed his 9 years in the service.  She had always picked up  the mail, and had excuses as to why he couldn't pick up the mail.....so he never knew what was coming in. 

I could go on and on, but we need to see her atone for this, before we move on.

She is schizophrenic, and right now has the 3 grandchildren.  My son has filed for divorce and primary custody. 

Thankfully, I have kept diaries and files on everything she did, that I know of, in the last 10 years.  It is a help...documentation....best way to prove anything.

Also, she was 25 and my son 17, when their first child was born.  They had been dating just over a month, when she became pregnant, with our first grandchild.

It is a long journey, to get the system to listen, and do something, but I know it will be well worth it, in the end.

 

as guilty as your daughter in-law may be..... your son is an adult . You need to butt out!! If she is guilty of fraud, she will get what is coming to her. Becouse your son has been hurt, it seem's that you are on a little bit of a witch hunt. I don't believe for one second that your son had no idea. Maybe he was in on the scam too, becouse it was bringing in extra money, If he didn't ask any question's... who's fault is that??

I would also like to add... the only 2 people in the marriage truly know what's going on.

 
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May 3, 2007, 9:22 am PDT

Where was their proof?

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My soon to be ex-daughter-in-law has been able to pull welfare scams, and fraud for years.  When she married my son 10 1/2 years ago, he was in the Marines.  She lived in Iowa, while he was in California.  They had a daughter at that time, who was just months old.  They were married 5 months, before she decided to join him, in California.  At that time she wanted me to forward ALL of her mail....when food stamps and checks came in from DHS and it had "do not forward" on the envelopes, I noticed that these were still coming in her maiden name.  One quick phone call told me that she never reported that she ever gotten married, and she had even said the father of the baby had left her, and she had no idea where he was.  She also had a 4 year old daughter at the time.  She has pulled these scams, and my son was oblivious to them.  It was just last fall, that he found out she was collecting welfare again, here in Iowa, after he left the Marines and they moved back here, 2 years ago.  She reported that he left her right after they moved back here, and she even forged his name to documents to keep the falsifications going.  She gave OUR address and phone number as his.  Unfortunately, in dealing with social workers in this area, for years, I have found they don't check these things out, and don't follow through.  My son now owes child support, for the last two years, when he was living with his wife!  This is one of many reasons why they are getting divorced.   

She is now being investigated in California and N. Carolina, where they had been stationed his 9 years in the service.  She had always picked up  the mail, and had excuses as to why he couldn't pick up the mail.....so he never knew what was coming in. 

I could go on and on, but we need to see her atone for this, before we move on.

She is schizophrenic, and right now has the 3 grandchildren.  My son has filed for divorce and primary custody. 

Thankfully, I have kept diaries and files on everything she did, that I know of, in the last 10 years.  It is a help...documentation....best way to prove anything.

Also, she was 25 and my son 17, when their first child was born.  They had been dating just over a month, when she became pregnant, with our first grandchild.

It is a long journey, to get the system to listen, and do something, but I know it will be well worth it, in the end.

 

In the show the grandparents were asked to provide the proof of the charges.

 

The only thing they did was to raise their voices and talk over the mother and Dr. Phil. Not once did they provide one piece of documentation.

 

You have a diary so did my mother, but she did not have any actual proof. You see I had the mother from H___! Only I did something to protect myself from her. Its called a restraining order.

You need to hope your son wins, remember she is the mother.

 
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May 3, 2007, 8:22 pm PDT

Keep fighting!

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My soon to be ex-daughter-in-law has been able to pull welfare scams, and fraud for years.  When she married my son 10 1/2 years ago, he was in the Marines.  She lived in Iowa, while he was in California.  They had a daughter at that time, who was just months old.  They were married 5 months, before she decided to join him, in California.  At that time she wanted me to forward ALL of her mail....when food stamps and checks came in from DHS and it had "do not forward" on the envelopes, I noticed that these were still coming in her maiden name.  One quick phone call told me that she never reported that she ever gotten married, and she had even said the father of the baby had left her, and she had no idea where he was.  She also had a 4 year old daughter at the time.  She has pulled these scams, and my son was oblivious to them.  It was just last fall, that he found out she was collecting welfare again, here in Iowa, after he left the Marines and they moved back here, 2 years ago.  She reported that he left her right after they moved back here, and she even forged his name to documents to keep the falsifications going.  She gave OUR address and phone number as his.  Unfortunately, in dealing with social workers in this area, for years, I have found they don't check these things out, and don't follow through.  My son now owes child support, for the last two years, when he was living with his wife!  This is one of many reasons why they are getting divorced.   

She is now being investigated in California and N. Carolina, where they had been stationed his 9 years in the service.  She had always picked up  the mail, and had excuses as to why he couldn't pick up the mail.....so he never knew what was coming in. 

I could go on and on, but we need to see her atone for this, before we move on.

She is schizophrenic, and right now has the 3 grandchildren.  My son has filed for divorce and primary custody. 

Thankfully, I have kept diaries and files on everything she did, that I know of, in the last 10 years.  It is a help...documentation....best way to prove anything.

Also, she was 25 and my son 17, when their first child was born.  They had been dating just over a month, when she became pregnant, with our first grandchild.

It is a long journey, to get the system to listen, and do something, but I know it will be well worth it, in the end.

 

Your soon to be ex-daughter-in-law sounds like a carbon copy of my children's birth mother.  I hope things work out for you.  We are working now to save the money to terminate her rights so that I may adopt them.  My husband was awarded custody of his 3 boys. She isn't allowed to see them.  The deadbeat doesn't pay child support.  We don't want her money anyway.

 

Have you asked Dr. Phil for help? I think you have a good story. Your happy ending is coming.

 

I think Dr. Phil needs to ask these dead beat moms what they are thinking!

 
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May 4, 2007, 4:57 am PDT

it's a sad story, but ...

Quote From: unicorn2000

My soon to be ex-daughter-in-law has been able to pull welfare scams, and fraud for years.  When she married my son 10 1/2 years ago, he was in the Marines.  She lived in Iowa, while he was in California.  They had a daughter at that time, who was just months old.  They were married 5 months, before she decided to join him, in California.  At that time she wanted me to forward ALL of her mail....when food stamps and checks came in from DHS and it had "do not forward" on the envelopes, I noticed that these were still coming in her maiden name.  One quick phone call told me that she never reported that she ever gotten married, and she had even said the father of the baby had left her, and she had no idea where he was.  She also had a 4 year old daughter at the time.  She has pulled these scams, and my son was oblivious to them.  It was just last fall, that he found out she was collecting welfare again, here in Iowa, after he left the Marines and they moved back here, 2 years ago.  She reported that he left her right after they moved back here, and she even forged his name to documents to keep the falsifications going.  She gave OUR address and phone number as his.  Unfortunately, in dealing with social workers in this area, for years, I have found they don't check these things out, and don't follow through.  My son now owes child support, for the last two years, when he was living with his wife!  This is one of many reasons why they are getting divorced.   

She is now being investigated in California and N. Carolina, where they had been stationed his 9 years in the service.  She had always picked up  the mail, and had excuses as to why he couldn't pick up the mail.....so he never knew what was coming in. 

I could go on and on, but we need to see her atone for this, before we move on.

She is schizophrenic, and right now has the 3 grandchildren.  My son has filed for divorce and primary custody. 

Thankfully, I have kept diaries and files on everything she did, that I know of, in the last 10 years.  It is a help...documentation....best way to prove anything.

Also, she was 25 and my son 17, when their first child was born.  They had been dating just over a month, when she became pregnant, with our first grandchild.

It is a long journey, to get the system to listen, and do something, but I know it will be well worth it, in the end.

 

It's none of your business. If your  son is any kind of man, he will take care of this mess himself. Meddling into her mail, checking with social workers, documenting for YEARS....

I sympathize, but must say, stay out of it, or in the end, you will look like the guests we just watched.

 


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