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May 4, 2007, 5:55 pm PDT

05/10 Obsessive Love: Secrets Revealed

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Well I will not say all that because I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him. Was he nice? from what I seen on the 1st show he became this way due to her cheating. Now that's no excuse for his behavior.  I would leave him, but she is the reason he is like he is. She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. The marriage is over. I do not believe it can be saved.

Abusers are who they are before you enter into their lives. The emotional and verbal abuse can make you want to seek complitments, love, to just be held without judgement. I was in an abusive marrage. I did not cheat but it does not mean that I did not think about. If "if" the opportunity had presented itself I may have only becasue I wanted to be more to someone than a a 4 letter word. Sorry but the man was a freak from day one, not because of Jennifer. Thank god I did not believe I was the 4 letter words my X husband called me. And thank god our daughter is not in that situation growing up that we where in. I did not want my son growing up thinking that was what he was going to dish out to any future partner or my daughter think that was what she had to take.

 
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May 5, 2007, 9:54 pm PDT

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Well I will not say all that because I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him. Was he nice? from what I seen on the 1st show he became this way due to her cheating. Now that's no excuse for his behavior.  I would leave him, but she is the reason he is like he is. She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. The marriage is over. I do not believe it can be saved.

to me that anyone could believe and actually say "but she is the reason he is like he is.".  I  beg to differ.  He is like he is because he CHOOSES to be. He has NOT been driven to be abusive and controlling, he is CHOOSING it.  He CHOSE to be so from the day they married.  The fact that she chose to have affairs does in NO WAY justify his abuse.  Yeah, she made bad choices there - but the fact she did isn't WHY he is abusing/controlling her.  He was NOT driven to these horrible behaviors by her infidelity.  She owns the infedlity and should not try to justify it, just as he owns the abuse and should not try to justify that.  IMO anyway.

 

He is a VERY scary man and I hope she right now is in a safe haven, where he cannot find her.  Seeing the previews of next week's shows, I am so scared for her.  I hope Dr. Phil's crew ensured her safety.     Roxy

 

 
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May 6, 2007, 4:18 pm PDT

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Well I will not say all that because I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him. Was he nice? from what I seen on the 1st show he became this way due to her cheating. Now that's no excuse for his behavior.  I would leave him, but she is the reason he is like he is. She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. The marriage is over. I do not believe it can be saved.
Alishia, I am so surprised that you would say that she made him act like that!!!!!  He apparently acted like that right from the start, starting with her not having any friends or family at the wedding.  He chose to act like he did because of his own insecurities, not because of her.  He is like any other abuser who constantly blames other people for his actions.  I bet you would think differently if you were in her shoes.  This whole story is like a Hollywood movie, a sicko movie to be exact.  The things he does to her are so off the wall that it is almost hard to believe if I didn't hear him say that he actually did these things.  I hope you are never in a situation like this, it is a very scary thing.  Please think about what you wrote, it is just not right.   The things he has done and is still doing are so typical, things that we have all heard about, estranging her from friends and family, keeping money from her, accusing her of everything under the sun.  I fear he may do something worse to her and the children, those poor kids.   I hope she doesn't go back to him, from the sounds of it, he will never change because he doesn't want to, he doesn't think he has done anything wrong.
 
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May 10, 2007, 9:17 am PDT

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Well I will not say all that because I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him. Was he nice? from what I seen on the 1st show he became this way due to her cheating. Now that's no excuse for his behavior.  I would leave him, but she is the reason he is like he is. She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. The marriage is over. I do not believe it can be saved.

She is not the reason he is like he is....he has some serious problems that started way before that....dont go blaming her.

 

 
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May 10, 2007, 10:46 am PDT

He's been like this since day 1

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Well I will not say all that because I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him. Was he nice? from what I seen on the 1st show he became this way due to her cheating. Now that's no excuse for his behavior.  I would leave him, but she is the reason he is like he is. She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. The marriage is over. I do not believe it can be saved.

This guy has been out of control since before they were married. reading the part 1 of this will help but it wasn't until i saw the show that I thought that she was dealing with someone that is totally unstable. even if she hadn't had an affair, he would still be doing this. it totally creeped me out

 

 
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May 10, 2007, 6:25 pm PDT

05/10 Obsessive Love: Secrets Revealed

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Well I will not say all that because I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him. Was he nice? from what I seen on the 1st show he became this way due to her cheating. Now that's no excuse for his behavior.  I would leave him, but she is the reason he is like he is. She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. The marriage is over. I do not believe it can be saved.
I don't think we should blame the victim.  Each of us has a responsibility for our own actions.  An affair is not a "reason."   It is a symptom.  If this man pulled half of this junk with anyone else BUT his wife, he would already be in jail.  Unfortunately, his wife has less legal leverage than a stranger would. -  I also was truly sickened by the way he tried to interact with the audience.  The guy is an ego-maniac.  I can assure you that he has not even come close to being open to therapy, or changing, or improving. 
 
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May 10, 2007, 6:44 pm PDT

05/10 Obsessive Love: Secrets Revealed

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Well I will not say all that because I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him. Was he nice? from what I seen on the 1st show he became this way due to her cheating. Now that's no excuse for his behavior.  I would leave him, but she is the reason he is like he is. She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. The marriage is over. I do not believe it can be saved.

 

 

She is not the reason he became like this.   He is what is is. 

 

 Ask yourself this question.  Can anyone make you act like him?  My guess you  answered  no  because it sounds like you have compassion.  We should fear for Jennifer and her childfren and not make no excuses for Jeffrey. 

 

 

 
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May 12, 2007, 11:23 am PDT

05/10 Obsessive Love: Secrets Revealed

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Well I will not say all that because I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him. Was he nice? from what I seen on the 1st show he became this way due to her cheating. Now that's no excuse for his behavior.  I would leave him, but she is the reason he is like he is. She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. The marriage is over. I do not believe it can be saved.

 "I never heard how he was with her before she cheated on him."

 

You weren't paying attention & if you go back & read "what happened on the show" you seel he "started questioning her just after they married"  which was when she was pregnant with their child.  At the time she was practically a child herself.  after a year & a half in their 2nd year of marriage she cheated on him.  & I can certainly see a young woman of her age thinking "Ok if he's going to accuse me..........."  Abusers don't become abusive they abuse form the beginning & manipulate the situation the way they want it to go & picking a 19 yr. old to marry is the start because it's easy to con someone who's young & inexperienced.  once pregnant & then married just 2 months after starting to date he had her "hooked"  This is *very common* & among the list of things to look out for when dating as a sign of an abuser "If he wants the relationship to progress real fast & marry right away".  They're "hooking you".  classic.

 

"She not only cheated but she kept trying to have affairs. "

 

This is taken from the obcessive dillusional thoughts of this man that has been twisting things so long even HE believes the lies.  Remeber just a joke of "You're a sexy bitch" to a girlfriend in an email had him accussing her of being a lesbian.  He's a liar & her continuing to try to have affairs is HIS dillusion. 

 

"but she is the reason he is like he is. "  People aren't made into abusers they come that way & the victim just doesn't see it. 

 


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