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May 13, 2007, 2:03 pm PDT

05/16 Anatomy of Abuse

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I know to most people the answer seems easy...GET OUT!  it's easier said than done if you are in that type of relationship. Her parents should not butt out, they should be calling CPS and getting their grandchildren out of that house asap. She is lucky to have someone to butt in. My ex husband was abusive and belittled me every time he opened his mouth and he had me isolated from everyone. He told me when i could go out and who i could talk to, I wish i would have been  brave enough to walk out the door but it's the fear that keeps you there.  When your life is being threatend (which i'm sure is happening) it's not that easy to "just leave". I used to think people were insane for staying with a person that was like that, until i was in that position. I was sure i would end up dead some day and when i finally got the backbone to leave it was because i told myself there is no way in hell that i would stay and let him kill me and somehow get away with it and be the person to raise my children, and i was not going to let someone else raise them if he didn't get away with it.  I know how the fear can overpower you and any common sense you do have but if she has her family, she needs to let them help her get out. I hope for her sake and the sake of her children that she takes that help & if she won't then i pray that someone will help the children even if it means calling child protective services to get them out.

No, it is not easy to "GET OUT" but it can be done.

I was threatened that if I tried to leave he would kill me and my family.  Finally after 15 years, it got so bad that I decided there are worse fates than death.

I did get out and  made a new career and a new life for myself. Now as adults my kids have experienced their dad's behavior first hand and have made their own decision to break all ties with him.

My kids are good people but not without some residule effects as a result of their dad's touch on their lives.

Wish I would have left sooner.

Wonder if my adult children would have been closer to each other.

But one can't look back and second guess.  Just greatful we are all alive and as well as we are.

 
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May 13, 2007, 2:07 pm PDT

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I know to most people the answer seems easy...GET OUT!  it's easier said than done if you are in that type of relationship. Her parents should not butt out, they should be calling CPS and getting their grandchildren out of that house asap. She is lucky to have someone to butt in. My ex husband was abusive and belittled me every time he opened his mouth and he had me isolated from everyone. He told me when i could go out and who i could talk to, I wish i would have been  brave enough to walk out the door but it's the fear that keeps you there.  When your life is being threatend (which i'm sure is happening) it's not that easy to "just leave". I used to think people were insane for staying with a person that was like that, until i was in that position. I was sure i would end up dead some day and when i finally got the backbone to leave it was because i told myself there is no way in hell that i would stay and let him kill me and somehow get away with it and be the person to raise my children, and i was not going to let someone else raise them if he didn't get away with it.  I know how the fear can overpower you and any common sense you do have but if she has her family, she needs to let them help her get out. I hope for her sake and the sake of her children that she takes that help & if she won't then i pray that someone will help the children even if it means calling child protective services to get them out.
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May 16, 2007, 3:06 pm PDT

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I know to most people the answer seems easy...GET OUT!  it's easier said than done if you are in that type of relationship. Her parents should not butt out, they should be calling CPS and getting their grandchildren out of that house asap. She is lucky to have someone to butt in. My ex husband was abusive and belittled me every time he opened his mouth and he had me isolated from everyone. He told me when i could go out and who i could talk to, I wish i would have been  brave enough to walk out the door but it's the fear that keeps you there.  When your life is being threatend (which i'm sure is happening) it's not that easy to "just leave". I used to think people were insane for staying with a person that was like that, until i was in that position. I was sure i would end up dead some day and when i finally got the backbone to leave it was because i told myself there is no way in hell that i would stay and let him kill me and somehow get away with it and be the person to raise my children, and i was not going to let someone else raise them if he didn't get away with it.  I know how the fear can overpower you and any common sense you do have but if she has her family, she needs to let them help her get out. I hope for her sake and the sake of her children that she takes that help & if she won't then i pray that someone will help the children even if it means calling child protective services to get them out.

It is easy to past judgement onto the abuser and the victim.  No one knows why you stay in a relationship that is abusive, except you yourself.  There is different fears that the victim feels.  Some of it comes from how the abuser makes you feel or what he says during the belittlement and the abuse.  Remember the victim is caught up in trying to know what to do and how to do what is right for herself and her children.  A lot of emotions are there and I commend the parents for seeing what needed done and stepping in as it is difficult for the victim sometimes to think rationally because of all the emotions.  Resources for abuse are available, but sometimes we do not know where to go during the ordeal.  I know I took a number of educational classes on abusive relationships before I got the courage to leave the abuser.  The do make you feel you cannot function without them by being in control of who you see, talk to, and finances.  My last straw was my husband  kicking my 2 year old across the room.  That was 15 years ago.   It took me showing him that I could stand up and fight back with a lawyer, judge, protective custody, police backup.  This does scare them into reality and he feared loosing his entire family.  I would not even talk to him till he had counseling,  Found out he did love me and the children and didn't want to loose us.  The physical abuse did not happen again.  He is afraid he will go to jail.  But now, after all this, he started verbally abusing the children several years ago.  WE PRAY when he begins to yell.  He stops after he knows we don't argue or give him reason to continue to yell. Sometimes I think he will snap back to physical abuse, but it has not happened yet.    I am not afraid  of him as I know it is not my fault he acts this way and I have let the children know it is not their fault either. Did I do wrong by taking him back?  Sometimes the children think I should have left him, but everyone has some good in them.  Counseling is good.  More counseling is better.

Prayers move mountains.  I cannot  fault her for taking him back.   I say "Good for You" for him admitting that he needs help.  That is the first step to recovery.  Sorry mother in law, your son is not a Mr. goodie and needs help, but this does not mean you were or are a bad mother.  Just don't be quick to open your mouth till you know all the facts.  Thank God, my father in law was able to control my mother in law when he found out what was going on.  Again, pray,pray,pray.

 
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May 16, 2007, 3:39 pm PDT

05/16 Anatomy of Abuse

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I know to most people the answer seems easy...GET OUT!  it's easier said than done if you are in that type of relationship. Her parents should not butt out, they should be calling CPS and getting their grandchildren out of that house asap. She is lucky to have someone to butt in. My ex husband was abusive and belittled me every time he opened his mouth and he had me isolated from everyone. He told me when i could go out and who i could talk to, I wish i would have been  brave enough to walk out the door but it's the fear that keeps you there.  When your life is being threatend (which i'm sure is happening) it's not that easy to "just leave". I used to think people were insane for staying with a person that was like that, until i was in that position. I was sure i would end up dead some day and when i finally got the backbone to leave it was because i told myself there is no way in hell that i would stay and let him kill me and somehow get away with it and be the person to raise my children, and i was not going to let someone else raise them if he didn't get away with it.  I know how the fear can overpower you and any common sense you do have but if she has her family, she needs to let them help her get out. I hope for her sake and the sake of her children that she takes that help & if she won't then i pray that someone will help the children even if it means calling child protective services to get them out.
I TO HAVE ALSO BEEN IN AN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP. NO ONE UNDERSTANDS WHY NOT JUST LEAVE, ITS NOT THAT EASY, THE EMOTIONAL AND VERBAL ABUSE ARE JUST AS BAD . YOU ARE AFRAID TO LEAVE ,AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT IT. IT`S SAD TO SEE HOW WE GET INTO THIS AND FEEL TRAPPED, AND OTHERS HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT`S LIKE, IT`S REAL EASY TO SAY LEAVE AND YOU WOULD NEVER PUT UP WITH IT, YOU DONT KNOW UNLESS YOU LIVED IT.
 
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May 19, 2007, 8:17 am PDT

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I know to most people the answer seems easy...GET OUT!  it's easier said than done if you are in that type of relationship. Her parents should not butt out, they should be calling CPS and getting their grandchildren out of that house asap. She is lucky to have someone to butt in. My ex husband was abusive and belittled me every time he opened his mouth and he had me isolated from everyone. He told me when i could go out and who i could talk to, I wish i would have been  brave enough to walk out the door but it's the fear that keeps you there.  When your life is being threatend (which i'm sure is happening) it's not that easy to "just leave". I used to think people were insane for staying with a person that was like that, until i was in that position. I was sure i would end up dead some day and when i finally got the backbone to leave it was because i told myself there is no way in hell that i would stay and let him kill me and somehow get away with it and be the person to raise my children, and i was not going to let someone else raise them if he didn't get away with it.  I know how the fear can overpower you and any common sense you do have but if she has her family, she needs to let them help her get out. I hope for her sake and the sake of her children that she takes that help & if she won't then i pray that someone will help the children even if it means calling child protective services to get them out.
I totally agree with you,when i was young i witness a friend get brutely abused by her sick husband,it broke my heart.I promised myself that I would never get involved with anyone like that.I didn't get married ontil I was 40 and taught this person I was marrying was a great person,meet him in a prayer group,wow did he decieve me.I have been married for 7 years ,should of been out of it the second year but fear keeps me there,he doesn't know this and maybe he does,I don't know!Anyway its truth what you are saying,its alot harder to get out once you are in this kind of situation.It's not as easy as people think,its okay if you have the right support,money,family to help,a place to live,people to help you move!Then its the emotional attactment thats difficult to let go,I hate his actions but I care about him regardless,but my feelings have been dead along time ago when it comes to love.If I had to have all the resources thats needed I would of been out the first year.All this takes time.I never got to see the show,unfortuately but for those of us who are in this type of relationship we understand how aweful it can be.
 
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May 22, 2007, 4:17 pm PDT

05/16 Anatomy of Abuse

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I know to most people the answer seems easy...GET OUT!  it's easier said than done if you are in that type of relationship. Her parents should not butt out, they should be calling CPS and getting their grandchildren out of that house asap. She is lucky to have someone to butt in. My ex husband was abusive and belittled me every time he opened his mouth and he had me isolated from everyone. He told me when i could go out and who i could talk to, I wish i would have been  brave enough to walk out the door but it's the fear that keeps you there.  When your life is being threatend (which i'm sure is happening) it's not that easy to "just leave". I used to think people were insane for staying with a person that was like that, until i was in that position. I was sure i would end up dead some day and when i finally got the backbone to leave it was because i told myself there is no way in hell that i would stay and let him kill me and somehow get away with it and be the person to raise my children, and i was not going to let someone else raise them if he didn't get away with it.  I know how the fear can overpower you and any common sense you do have but if she has her family, she needs to let them help her get out. I hope for her sake and the sake of her children that she takes that help & if she won't then i pray that someone will help the children even if it means calling child protective services to get them out.

Good for you for getting out. It's amazing the advice some people have when they've never experienced abuse. My dad physically abused my mom, brother and me for years. My mom stayed and is still with him. I, like Dr. Phil, look deep into the situation. There is a reason people abuse like they do. There is a reason people abuse drugs, etc. I'm not okaying it but there is a reason. For a long time I tried to figure out why. Why never came. But I took up for my mom and brother and got the brunt of it a lot of times. One thing I did learn, stand up for yourself. Abusers are bullies. When my dad realized I wasn't backing down and I would kill him before he would me, he didn't try to hit me as much.

 

It's not the physical abuse that hurts as much as the memories and the days I suffer from depression because of the screwed up childhood I had. My mom stayed and I know there is a reason she stayed. I can't understand and I probably never will, but she did. I think about the times she couldn't go to work because of the bruises or the shame I saw on her face because I had a black eye for defending her. She did what she knew how to do. Live.

 


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