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July 28, 2005, 11:32 am PDT
 Quote From: jamesstein Mary I can relate to some of what you said in your post but Social Services goes way beyound just ignoring the fact that children are in their care. DSS harms more than just the child or children, they actually harm the entire family in most cases. DSS does not care about what trauma or problems they cause the children from being removed from loving and caring parents. I would like to note here that DSS in chesterfield south carolina does infact take children out of loving and caring homes and they tell the foster parent any reason they want to why the children was removed. In south carolina it is illegal to tell the foster parents any information about the case but DSS still does do it. DSS is not always truthful though and they will do what they want and say what they want. I am a Victim Parent of Social Services and I have lived through the illegal activities of Social Services. DSS removed our 4 children from our home based on nothing more than what DSS felt like saying. DSS said our children was isolated from the outside world and has never had any contact with any other child or adult ever. DSS got an Ex-Parte order for removal based on nothing more than their words. No proof, no evidence, No medicals, Nothing but their words. What DSS did was wrong and the statements they made was false and according to the law they have to prove what they say but yet DSS does this same thing over and over and never having to prove anything. DSS does more though and the courts allow it as the more children that go in foster care and stay in foster care the more money the system gets which includes the lawyers, judges, and social services. DSS made many false claims on court documents with no proof at all. DSS made claims my wife could not take care of her children due to her disibility and that she will admit she cant take care of her children. DSS has no right to do this but the judges and the state allow it to happen and nobody says anything. Does DSS have any medical degree ? does DSS have any documents from a medical provider ? The answers are NO they have nothing but what they say. The above is considered slander under the south carolina laws but yet the judges said nothing. Our daughter who was 10 years old when she was put in care was put in the hospital 10 months after being in care. DSS did infact abuse and neglect our daughter by not doing anything about her being sick after in care. All DSS did was blame my wife for the whole thing in court. How could my wife abuse a child that is not even in our care ?? She Cant!! Our children was put into foster care in March 2003 and our rights was terminated in Jan 2005 based on DSS making claims my wife refused to apply for her SSI check ( which was apply for in April 2004 ) and based on DSS saying we did not complete our treatment plan which was done before the merits hearing. The judge just took DSS's word for it and terminated our rights. DSS had proved nothing and just said it and the judges ignored anything we said in our defense. DSS implimented an illegal treatment plan that we did infact do but DSS ignores the laws and did not impliment the treatment plan according to the law. Yes again we did do the plan but it was not good enough for DSS. DSS has broken court orders for visitations with out children. Think the judge or the state said anything about this ?? No. DSS can pretty much do what they want to do and get away with it. My wife and I in noway ever abused or neglected our children and I do actually have proof of what DSS did was illegal. I have filed a civil case on DSS and plan on filling criminal charges on them. I have no lawyer and any help anyone wants to give would be apprciated. Mary just remember though that not all children belong in social services and not all parents abuse their children as social services claims. I personally have no faith in the system as my wife and I have seen how the system can destroy a honest, loving, and caring family. -- James I agree with what you said about DSS. My neice is fighting the system as well. Her children have been in 3 different foster homes in a period of 4 months. No one could handle her children (because her oldest (5 y/o) was acting out due to "separation anxiety" according to his counselor. DSS gave her her children back. My neice did all the things required of DSS, counseling, drug test, parenting classes etc..when they gave her her kids back, but now again because of her ex friends making false accusations on her they want her kids. This time she got up and moved to another state. Our whole family cannot see her or her children. They are gone. BUT, get this, DSS knows she has left he state, but her ex friends have called in on her again making false accusations against her and they know she is not even in the state but DSS wants her again. What's wrong with this system? She has never abused her children or neglected them, but that is what they are going on is because that is what the ex friends keep saying. I know a site that can help you and give you some valuable information concerning your rights and childrens rights and how to fight the system. Type in: fighting cps on your web page and look for the link that says: fighting cps and false accusaitons. There is a message forum you can go to and get all the help you need. Or type in on your web browser: fighting cps message forum and you will find the message forum . That is where you want to go to look and get information. Good luck |
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October 12, 2006, 8:18 pm PDT
Quote From: jamesstein Mary I can relate to some of what you said in your post but Social Services goes way beyound just ignoring the fact that children are in their care. DSS harms more than just the child or children, they actually harm the entire family in most cases. DSS does not care about what trauma or problems they cause the children from being removed from loving and caring parents. I would like to note here that DSS in chesterfield south carolina does infact take children out of loving and caring homes and they tell the foster parent any reason they want to why the children was removed. In south carolina it is illegal to tell the foster parents any information about the case but DSS still does do it. DSS is not always truthful though and they will do what they want and say what they want. I am a Victim Parent of Social Services and I have lived through the illegal activities of Social Services. DSS removed our 4 children from our home based on nothing more than what DSS felt like saying. DSS said our children was isolated from the outside world and has never had any contact with any other child or adult ever. DSS got an Ex-Parte order for removal based on nothing more than their words. No proof, no evidence, No medicals, Nothing but their words. What DSS did was wrong and the statements they made was false and according to the law they have to prove what they say but yet DSS does this same thing over and over and never having to prove anything. DSS does more though and the courts allow it as the more children that go in foster care and stay in foster care the more money the system gets which includes the lawyers, judges, and social services. DSS made many false claims on court documents with no proof at all. DSS made claims my wife could not take care of her children due to her disibility and that she will admit she cant take care of her children. DSS has no right to do this but the judges and the state allow it to happen and nobody says anything. Does DSS have any medical degree ? does DSS have any documents from a medical provider ? The answers are NO they have nothing but what they say. The above is considered slander under the south carolina laws but yet the judges said nothing. Our daughter who was 10 years old when she was put in care was put in the hospital 10 months after being in care. DSS did infact abuse and neglect our daughter by not doing anything about her being sick after in care. All DSS did was blame my wife for the whole thing in court. How could my wife abuse a child that is not even in our care ?? She Cant!! Our children was put into foster care in March 2003 and our rights was terminated in Jan 2005 based on DSS making claims my wife refused to apply for her SSI check ( which was apply for in April 2004 ) and based on DSS saying we did not complete our treatment plan which was done before the merits hearing. The judge just took DSS's word for it and terminated our rights. DSS had proved nothing and just said it and the judges ignored anything we said in our defense. DSS implimented an illegal treatment plan that we did infact do but DSS ignores the laws and did not impliment the treatment plan according to the law. Yes again we did do the plan but it was not good enough for DSS. DSS has broken court orders for visitations with out children. Think the judge or the state said anything about this ?? No. DSS can pretty much do what they want to do and get away with it. My wife and I in noway ever abused or neglected our children and I do actually have proof of what DSS did was illegal. I have filed a civil case on DSS and plan on filling criminal charges on them. I have no lawyer and any help anyone wants to give would be apprciated. Mary just remember though that not all children belong in social services and not all parents abuse their children as social services claims. I personally have no faith in the system as my wife and I have seen how the system can destroy a honest, loving, and caring family. -- James We also are in the middle of a DSS case that is unfounded, corrupt, and full of un-proven facts, lies, and inuendo. We are in fear of losing our 4 precious grandchildren, the youngest one was raised by us and in our home every day of his life until DSS came with two police officers to our home and declared they "were uncomfortable with the placement" and took the kids kicking and screaming from our ams. We did nothing wrong, all care providers - doctors, dentists, therapists, teachers, etc. have said and are continuing to say that the children were making definite improvements while in our care, and even DSS, CASA, and the childrens' GAL told us that we would probably end up with all 4. We had all gone into this case with the knowledge that our daughter wanted to give up her rights to her boys and to keep her daughter, the oldest. Katie is 6 now, the twins (my boys) are 5, and Jacob is 3. He calls my husband 'Daddy'. All of the children will tell you they want to be with us and live with us. Well, after they took the kids from us they changed the permancy plan to reunification with mother. Everyone will tell you that they set her up to fail, but she finished her treatment plan and was doing OK outside of the fact that the house was always messy but I don't know any single mom with four small children who can keep a house clean at all times. The 'powers that be' would not let us spend any time with the kids unless our daughter was there, although they basically threw it in our face that we had to take them to school, daycare, and back home each day without our daughter being present. She did not have her driver's license, no car, etc. and they told her that as long as the kids were getting to where they needed to be they would not pull them..In fact, we just found out today that they had given her legal as well as physical custody for the two months they were at home with her. Two weeks ago everything blew up! Our daughter asked her attorney to file a motion to dismiss as she wanted the case to be closed since it had been a year and she had completed her treatment plan. Well, the DSS caseworker did not show up for the hearing and the GAL for the children was not present but someone did fill in for her. Our daughter was allowed to speak and she told the judge that she wanted to move to Denver where there was more opportunity and the judge told her once she was set up with a job and appropriate housing they would do a change of venue to make sure everything was OK. The hearing was rescheduled for the next week so the caseworker could be there. Well, the next week our grandchildren were taken into foster care temporarily we thought so our daughter could go to Denver and get set up. When the caseworker came to get them she told our daughter not to tell them she would be back for them cause that might not happen. She took the kids, our daughter called her attorney with no call back, and she went to Denver as all her plans had been made. That Friday the DSS caseworker called to inform her of a shelter hearing to be held within the hour. Obviously she waited just long enough so that our daughter would not have time to get back down here (2 hour ride) and she missed the hearing. The caseworker called her later that day and asked her to sign off her rights so they wouldn't have to take it to trial as the kids deserved some stability and she had already found an adoptive home that would take all 4 of them!!!!!!!! Now obviously this could not have happened within 4 days! Our daughter basically told her what she could do with her suggestion and the caseworker said they would be filing to terminate her rights. We figure they are going for abandonement since she went to Denver even though the judge had said she could do a change of venue - of course while the caseworker and GAL were not there. We found out today from our daughter that the children have been placed in a foster/adopt home 300 miles from their home but still in the state. Her attorney told her he had known about it and yet he did not inform her. We have no money for an attorney and neither does she, so we are going to fight this one on our own. They have been dishonest, deceitful, and plain cowards. We are not perfect, but they knew our pasts when they placed the kids with us for the first 7 months of the case. They knew our daughter would most likely fail - they made her quit school and told her to go on TANF while the case was open as it would be easier for everyone and yet they paid for three months of daycare so she could look for work. We have been the childrens' daycare and caretakers in general their whole lives, and in fact was paid by DSS to do so. As long as the ASFA is in force as it stands, parents and families are at risk of losing their children and children will be castrated from their families, traditions, and they people they love all because our government has given local DSS, CPS, DCF (or whatever) bonuses for putting children into foster care and then more money for adopting them out. They are supposed to do what is in the 'best interest of the child' but with all of these cases and reports and stories in the media, in support groups on-line and even posted here on Dr. Phil's site, it is obvious that the childrens' best interest is not being served - the best interest of local county budgets and workers financial accounts is what is being served. As a country we need to stand up and demand that our children be returned to their homes. The numbers are staggering and unlike times past, the children in foster care and available for adoption are not all abused, neglected, and from drug abuse homes or that of sexual abuse. As said on this board before, DSS, et al can pretty much say whatever they want and do not have to prove anything. The courts, court appointed attorneys, casewrokers, GAL's are all paid from these bonuses where it had to do with foster care and adoption and if they all need a little extra, they find a family that has no resources to fight and takes their children. I haven't heard of a wealthy family going through all of this as they have the money to hire the best and brightest attorneys and they keep their children. The corruption has to stop! The defenseless children need to be brought home, and our local counties need to pay for their indescretions. In a criminal matter these people would be serving time for purgery, contempt, and endangering the life of a child; however, in DSS Land, they are applauded for their 'good works' and saving the lives of abused and neglected children. How many of you will stand up and fight this? Dr. Phil the previous writer asked you to stand up and I am doing so as well. Dig into this story and you will find plenty of families that will substantiate what has been written on your boards in regards to foster care, adoption, and corruption of same. We, the families that want our children to be safe in their loving (not abusive), caring (not neglecting) homes want you to stand up for us and fight this fight with us. Can you imagine losing your children or future grandchildren when you have done nothing wrong but simply because you do not have the resources to fight? It is happening out here in Reality Land and the children are paying the price. Please, won't you help us to make it a safe world for our children not one where they are in fear of being pulled from their families? Let's fight this people! If we don't fight for the kids, who will? Remember it goes both ways - "IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CHILD"!!!!!! May God be with us all, especially the children! Jusnanale28 |
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